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If Israel had been in the same position, they would have commenced a full invasion and attacked el bab with a couple of mechanised and armoured brigades

This operation is costing men, because of politics and not the military. A combined operation of forces is only as powerful as the weakest link. Of course the couple of tanks we have there are being run over, when they don't have adequate infantry support and recon. The politicians thought they...

Again post evidence or stfu

1. Stop derailing this thread 2. Stop saying we are full of shit, without posting evidence to support your claim 3. Not posting evidence, while we have tons of it, means that you are full of shit

Your claim it is fantasy, while you Don'the understand our language, are not a member of Turkish society or are in the Turkish military. So if it's so much bullshit, please deliver facts instead of mindless trolling We are not Iran. We don't lie about our casualties or the casualties of the enemy.

Ofcourse you know best right. Please keep out of this thread, or post valid evidence that's really all propaganda. Because we have tons of evidence is the truth. We are a democratic country still and not a 1984 state like your Iran, where everything is made up.

I think you have an issue with understanding English, it's since August.

So we lost like 5 leopard 2's already?

The main issue with the siege of Al Bab is that there are probably as much men attacking the city as defending. In the basic rules of a siege this is always a huge disadvantage of the attackers. If Turkey would commit one brigade of commandos or mechanised infantry, with assistance of the...

They are all pro PKK bullshit acounts

Is it true that we lost 16 soldiers yesterday in daglica?

There are projects like this being set up at the moment.

Do we get T129-B's this year?

Thank you for your worthy opinion and constructive and objective view. It has been a pleasure having you here. If you have something useful to say, please enlighten us with your vision. If not STFU.

Your biased opinion put aside, we do not care about destroying SDF. We gave them an ultimatum to keep out of this, so that we could create a buffer zone. Yet they did the opposite and started to advance and attack FSA positions. If they retreat to the east we will probably not follow them.

This comes from one of the most accurate and reliable Facebook pages regarding the Turkish military

1. Most YPG forces in Manbji are Kurdish, not Arab 2. Free Syrian Army units, which are part of the attack, are totally not jihadist. You are biased

Selamatsizbe. Kalaysın?

you voiced many Turks's opinion perfectly. I'd rather have an asshole democratically elected conservative president than an asshole theocratic islamist dictator.

Hey guys, So what kind of repercussions have the Turkish armed forces made since the bombing? Did they target DAESH in syria, with jets and howitzers or something?