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Compare Mig-29 and JF-17 when JF-17 finishes all those weapons trials and then come back and discuss. Mig-29 doesn't have to test all the weapons form through out the universe because it has specific roles assigned that of first-line of defense as a interceptor and a second-line of offense...

Well we don't know what Egyptians want. May be they want Jf-17 as lo in hi-lo mix and hi being Mig-29 or F-16s. And what makes you to think that Egypt will still not buy Mig-29s?. It is still negotiating and so there is possibility that it can buy. And also if Egypt is in negotiations in JF-17...

First let me start with Thrust/weight ratio as it is important for the maneuverability of the aircraft. Mig-29 has T/W of 1.09 which make it capable of doing extreme maneuvers like vertical loops, pulling vertical Gs while T/W of JF-17 is around 0.95 or so making its T/W less than critical and...

As I already countered all the claims of JF-17 equivalent to Mig-29, please go through those posts and reply them. I don't want to rehash everything again for you. But to simplify things all I'm saying is JF-17 Block II, which some posters claim is equivalent to Mig-29, doesn't exist and is just...

First you need to read the title of the article (and the article itself) "Made-in-China airplanes may undermine sales of Russian high quality jets". But as usual a Pakistani poster twisted it and gave the twisted thread title "JFT is "Extremely close" to MIG-29: Mikhail Pogosyan". And people who...

Where is the anguish?. People are only countering the claims of JF-17 being an equivalent of Mig-29 in terms of capabilities which it is not. And that perhaps to you seem like anguish. Russia didn't let us down because they gave us a very capable fighter in terms of Mig-29 which is our...

India has nothing to lose or worry if JF-17 gives competition to Mig-29. It is for Russia to lose their market. Anyways, we have to see about that when JF-17 first starts selling to other countries. It is not final yet. Though difference needs to be pointed out that alleged competition between...

If pakistan doesn't want Indians, well and good. There are many more needy people in India that these doctors can attend to. If any, loss is Pakistan's.

It is not appreciation from other countries that I'm looking for, I'm looking for open source data. As long as it doesn't come out open, you cannot claim that it exists in open. As far as I'm concerned Block-II doesn't exist based on available reports. If you have contrary reports please post...

Multiple reports allude to the fact that Pakistan wants to be middle agent for any deal between Afghanistan and Afghan Taliban. Nothing new in this report.

Why should Indian muslims Islamize America, for that matter any other muslims. It seems your agenda in US is to Islamize it. Indian muslims are there in US for a better future and will work hard towards that goal. They are not there to involve in religious bigotry that some of you show here...

That is the reality. The Jf-17 that you are trying to project doesn't exist while Mig-29SMT upgrades in India has already started. So, there is a significant difference between them already. Moreover, there is no news on any deals that have been struck for better engine, better radar, better...

Now which subcontinent country has the balls to withdraw from common wealth games.

The BDs who hate India's friendship with BD and Awami league party are mainly the razakar supporters who have participated in atrocities against fellow Bangladeshis during 1971 war and are the ones who have no role in bringing freedom to Bangladesh. Its there for everyone to see from where their...

I think smaller states can be developed in a better way than larger states but with same set of politicians its highly doubtful. Jharkand is a prime example, despite having rich mineral sources development is very slow.

Nothing will match this Chilli grenade made of hot bhut jolokia powder :lol:

Good for you and your wonderland.

Comparing a developing platform to a mature platform is a joke. You are asking me not to troll when you should have instead rebuked the points I made. It is you who are trolling. If you any points to make, do it, otherwise refrain from posting on this.

The comparison of JF-17 with future upgrades in mind (which may or may not happen) to an existing mature Mig-29 platform is not at all fair. Its twin engines gives its superior maneuverability owing to high T/W ratio and ability to pull larger Gs. Its powerful radar will give first look first...

Pakistan is the Afghan war's real aggressor By Rangin Dadfar Spanta Monday, August 23, 2010 After the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, Afghanistan became a rare example of international consensus. The global community, amid competing regional and international interests, undertook a...