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What? How does the choice of j35 engine have anything to do with what's on paf jf17? J35 prototypes are using ws21. That's likely what they will continue to use until ws19 is ready. Plan does not make decisions based on what engine paf uses on jf17. Keep in mind that it does make sense for...

There are some interesting points that I've noticed up thread. First of all, I find this claim that J-10A lost to F-16 quite dubious. First of all, without knowing the pilots and the combat scenario, it's hard to say which aircraft is better from just a couple of exercises. Secondly, American...

There aren't 150 in service right now. Probably 100 based on recent counting of serial numbers and units we know about. My guess the current production rate is around a 40 a year and on the way to 50 a year. This might go up higher in the coming years, but they will need to keep optimizing...

That's simply not true. Please stop making things up. Find me one real source that says su35 use Chinese aesa radar and can use pl15.

A few more things. I am not sure why certain people are still talking about su35. It's really not very good. J10c and j16 routinely whips it in fact. In terms of avionics, it's far behind what china is using on it's 4th gen aircraft. There is no aesa radar option for su35. It doesn't...

I'm sure they did agree to something, but the reality is that they couldn't export this thing until J-10C was using WS-10 series engine. Right now is basically the earliest they could export it to PAF. WS-10 production is finally solid in China. PLAAF itself has moved on to J-20 procurement...

Would you pick a US radar from the 2000s over a Chinese radar from last year? Would you pick a US one that has 900 T/R modules with power limitations over a Chinese one with 1200 T/R modules with much greater power output? The reality is that internal layout of an aircraft cannot be changed...

A few things here. Getting an EW aircraft into PAF is more important than getting another fighter jet type. Good special missions platform are force multipliers. China is not going to export J-16Ds to PAF. It's not going to export any flanker types for obvious reasons. There is not point...

No, JF-17 two seater is too small. I would say even J-10C two seater is too small for that role

You might want to go to SIPRI and check that statement out https://armstrade.sipri.org/armstrade/html/export_values.php $141 million in 2020. I understand some of my harsh reality statement stings nationalistic tendencies of some members here. But feel free to go post this kind of stuff on...

No I couldn't care less about such a program. I'm simply pointing out that modern fighter jet development is hard and turbofan engine development is even harder. And all of which is expensive. I understand that as a fan of local Indonesian industry, you want it to succeed. So, there is no...

Turkey is a NATO ally. UAE found the terms of F-35 discussion so onerous that It suspended talks for induction of the aircraft. https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/uae-threatens-pull-out-23-bln-f-35-drone-deal-with-us-wsj-2021-12-14/ Again, UAE did not even get a chance to...

Of course F-35 is denied. The only Arabic country that was give permission to F-35 was UAE. They had to establish formal relationship with Israel in order to get that. Even so, so many conditions were placed on UAE that they ended up purchasing Rafale instead. Given Pakistan's close...

The biggest difference is the improved engine. T-129 had a very powerful engine for its size that Z-10 simply could not match. WZ-9 was the first modern domestically developed turboshaft engine for China. They were very careful with utilizing it. Now after several years of usage and the...

It's just the reality of Aeroengine Industry. China has thrown a lot of money at it in the past 10 to 15 years and it is still 20 years behind GE, RR and PW. This is an industry that requires continued investment in the billions over many many years. None of the companies will disclose the...

It's still the best fighter jet after f35 and f22. And unlike f22, they can actually fly it more than half of the time. Saying that china has the worst mass produced 5th gen aircraft is like saying someone have the 400 m world record instead of the 100 m. It's still pretty darn good...

The problem is you are equating China's industrial base with Turkey's industrial base. The gap between the two is pretty vast. I suppose China's military industrial strength will always be underestimated externally due to how fast they have modernized. That perception will change. 10 years...

Turkey hasn't got a clue how hard it is to build a domestic engine industry that's competitive. It just got stun by the American sanctions and trying to sound strong. It took over 20 years for China to build the domestic engine industry they have today and catch up with a Russian one that...

Maybe Pakistan needs to aim a little higher than that. Having 80s built f16s extended twice to serve for 60 years is not a good thing. By late 2020s, Pakistan should be looking to get 5th gen aircraft.

This idea isn't for that timeframe. It would be for a couple of years from now once paf likes it's j10c and don't have enough fund for more new j10c. I have no idea how much money paf has, but it does have a lot of aircraft to replace. Including all of the f16s.