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    SAC FC-31 Stealth Fighter: News & Discussions

    Assuming it's not a model plane (though not exactly a logical place to place a model plane, especially since there's been no news of such mock up have surfaced in that airport), it might be an un-scheduled landing for the FC-31.
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    SAC - FC-31 Grey Falcon Stealth aircraft for PAF : Updates & Debate

    I love how your imagined number of escort ships keeps on increasing yet the number of FC-31 remains to be one, logic at its finest. 200km? You really loves throwing around random numbers huh? You just said "I am pretty sure it can find a FC-31 carrying two ASMs around 100 kms away." You can't...
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    SAC - FC-31 Grey Falcon Stealth aircraft for PAF : Updates & Debate

    Your ignorance continous to amuses me, I've already asked to to "think with a clear head", guess you are not capable of doing that. :crazy: Heck, let's even pretend that FC-31's RCS with 2 external ASMs is the same RCS as the non-stealth MQ-9 on that graph there. Now, draw a circle with its...
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    SAC - FC-31 Grey Falcon Stealth aircraft for PAF : Updates & Debate

    My points stand, Indian's carrier, especially Indian's CVBG is MUCH MUCH MUCH bigger of a target in terms of RCS compared to a stealth aircraft+2 external ASMs. You would need to rework your elementary math skill if you sincerely believe a non-stealth aircraft+2 external ASMs will pose the same...
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    SAC - FC-31 Grey Falcon Stealth aircraft for PAF : Updates & Debate

    To answer that, I would like to point out some necessary information regarding the official choice of PLAAF first: "The J-XX program was started in the late 1990s. A proposal from Chengdu Aerospace Corporation, designated Project 718, won the PLAAF endorsement following a 2008 competition...
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    SAC - FC-31 Grey Falcon Stealth aircraft for PAF : Updates & Debate

    Hmm, I know I'm not supposed to feed the trolls, but I can't help but be amused by your blatant show of blind confidence. This is not a thread for pathetic ego-boosting Indians to talk about how LCA Tejas can win out a match against J-20 (which I'm sure is the case in your delusions of...
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    SAC - FC-31 Grey Falcon Stealth aircraft for PAF : Updates & Debate

    Really now?8-) "A 2011 article in the United States Naval War College Review credited the "YJ-91/YJ-12" with a range of 400 km and a 205 kg high explosive warhead, compared to the 130 km (81 mi; 70 nmi) range of a Harpoon anti-ship missile. Furthermore, an aircraft could launch the...
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    SAC - FC-31 Grey Falcon Stealth aircraft for PAF : Updates & Debate

    Imagine an attack scenario on the Ins vikramaditya, PAF's FC-31 carries two C-802 externally, two BVR PL-12C internally and two WVR PL-10 internally (A VERY modest loadout for the FC-31). Even with a RCS of 3M squared due to the external ASMs (let's assume it's the non-stealth C-802), it will...
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    SAC - FC-31 Grey Falcon Stealth aircraft for PAF : Updates & Debate

    Interesting, this is the first time I've heard of such complication, do you have any source as to this information, sir? From what I know, JF-17/FC-1/Super-7 project never had a "J" series name , meaning it was never designed nor planned to be inducted as a fighter aircraft by the PLAAF...
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    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 6]

    The IR guided missiles you mentioned seems to include features that indicate sub-types of the PL-5. This official CATIC poster showcasing all the AA missile in service/development was made public in China 10 years ago, yet the sub-types of PL-5 (C/D) at the time were still shown to have the...
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    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 6]

    Official AVIC insider photos of JF-17 fitted with new refueling probe, Chinese caption states successful flight on January 21st @ CAC.
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    PAF Air Refueling Capability

    Official AVIC insider photos of JF-17 fitted with new refueling probe, Chinese caption states successful flight on January 21st @ CAC.
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    Chengdu J-20 5th Generation Aircraft News & Discussions

    Given the clear presence of J-20's electro-optical distributed aperture system which provides the pilot with 360 degrees of battlefield awareness, it would be illogical for any J-20 prototype since 2011, as that's when its EODAS was installed and spotted, to not have HMS. HMS=the only known...
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    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 6]

    JF-17 #229 with new IFR probe in test flight @ CAC
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    Major Changes Ahead on JF-17 Block-3

    Yes, some of the J-10B/C are equipped with Chinese WS-10A instead of AL-31. However due to the production rate of WS-10A (majority of WS-10A have been installed on the J-11 family, including J-11B, J-11D, J-16, J-15, etc) and the abundance of AL-31s already purchased from Russia, the majority of...
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    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 6]

    Seems to be very similar to one installed on the J-10B, CAC might have used the exact same model for both aircraft. And no, it does not seem to be MAWs, Another new pic of the new batch of JF-17, the new apparatus does not appear on the left side of the aircraft. J-10B also had something...
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    PAF Air Refueling Capability

    2016-01-22 New Batch of JF-17 with revised in-air refueling probe being tested @ Chengdu Aircraft Corporation (CAC)
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    Pakistan Navy | News & Discussions.

    "中" is the abbreviated version of China (中国), just as how "巴“ is the abbreviated version of Pakistan (巴基斯坦). You may think of it as how "Pak" is the abbreviated version of "Pakistan". :-)
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    Pakistan Navy | News & Discussions.

    中巴海军举行海上联合军事演练?巴战机模拟空袭--军事--人民网 Another official Chinese government news report on the joint Sino-Pakistan Naval exercise. 参加此次演练的中方兵力为导弹护卫舰柳州舰、三亚舰以及舰载直升机1架和特战队员数十名。巴方参演兵力为导弹护卫舰“佐勒菲卡尔”号(舷号251)、“阿斯拉特”号(舷号254),快速攻击艇“扎拉”号(舷号03)以及固定翼巡逻机、舰载直升机各1架和海岸防卫队特战队员数十名,巴空军“幻影2000”战斗机2架。 Translation: Chinese...
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    Pakistan Navy | News & Discussions.

    【中巴海军举行联合军事演练】当地时间1月11日,结束对巴基斯坦友好访问的中国海军第21批护航编队在卡拉奇外海,与巴海军举行了以编队运动、补给占位、远海搜救、联合护航、编队防空、直升机互降等科目为主要内容的联合海上军事演练。通过演练,加深了中巴海军的友谊与互信,深化了双方的交流与合作。 My (unofficial) translation from official PLAN weibo news source: Local time January 11th, PLAN's 21st anti-piracy task forces concludes its friendly...
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