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Do pakistan has got guts to engage india in a full scale war???? i dont they even have guts to face indian thats why they try to occupy indian areas disguising as terrorists.....as the cowards did in kargil....and dont talk of nuclear missiles...we got more and better than you......... for...

To remind you most of the dassault sources/neutral sources claim that 28 mirages were supplied to you.....also the fact told behind the return is that first you used them to show them as your plane so as to minimize ur damages and then you returned it<or not>... The Mirage -IIIEP served...

@ growler...plz stick to the topic...dont try to be aggressive....and be in your limits. moreover the link you posted has a pakistani as its author and still you want us to trust that......... http://s188567700.online.de/CMS/inde...=160&Itemid=47 India - Pakistan War, 1971; Introduction...

brother i checked the site......it claims only official deals of Pakistan...nothing about the Libyan/Saudi help in 1971...also to mention.... the site began its independent investigation after 1974<as read in Google sources> all the events occurred earlier were sourced through Govt's...also...

ok lets say u r right then what about this.... The PAF almost exclusively flew defensive sorties with 61.5% of the overall effort and up to 70% excluding bomber, transport and recce sorties, being purely DCA sorties. The IAF in contrast, flew an almost completely offensive air campaign (...

listen you man first confirm with windj what is the fact...he says the planes reached Pakistan after the air war.....u say i was not used because it lacked aim-9B capability.... seems like u both are lost in the words/facts/truth/lies/fantasies/bs

You dont behave like a retard....I m asking if you returned the F-104's in 1972 why most of the sites claim that the aircrafts were donated to pakistan and were not returned.......<Google it> except the sipri moreover sipri site do not show any claim of Libya transfer of f-5/mirage nor Saudi...

sir u there

@ windj Yaaar You always talk of wreckage proof..When you admitted yourself that IAF was offensive and attacking Pakistani areas continuously.....most of the wreckage of your planes were in your territory..which was easy to hide...but IAF fought in your areas that's why you easily display the...

GOT SOMETHING FUNNY TO TELL YOU.....just read talks between some Pakistani members by visitors message so as to get me suspended...........

US even said it will wipe out AL-quaeda in 15 hours....i feel now its more than 87600 hours and still they are trying....ooops real drama.... i feel Ekta kapoor<producer of famous daily soaps...kahani ghar ghar ki,kumkum,kusum,kasam se> should be in US marines

sorry if i interrupt between u and growler...but just to tell you russia recently decided to use bramhos as the new main arm in the new gen. frigates it is aiming to construct from the beginning of 2011..............

but most of the sites claim jJordan donated the aircraft's to Pakistan what about that....even Air Aviation claims this....i gave link earlier....which is from the same publications of Air enthusiast...

December 26, 2006 14:14 IST A few months ago, the Office of the Historian at the US State Department released Volume XI of the Foreign Relations of the United States devoted to the 'South Asia Crisis, 1971': in other words, the Bangladesh War. This 929-page publication groups together...

good to have you on that air war thread...plz stay with us...will enjoy ur help with some links

they got a so called "blast before PC advantage "

yaar i tried to make that post twice but it was reported by growler as repeated post thats why it was deleted by mods....i m trying for it....i feel we need to disscuss that thread under some other heading....well now dr is going to try for that thread lets see what happens

seems like you trust Growler,Fricker,Windjammer more than the Globalsecurity.com B.henry Lt.Gen. Nazi Lt.Gen shaukat Library of Congress orbat.com Chris Bishop, Indo-Pakistan wars 1965-71, p.386, "The Encyclopedia of 20th Century Air Warfare", 2001 Aerospace publishing ltd, 2001 edition...

To tell you India claims to have shot down the two RJAF F-104 starfighters in nayachor which is in Pakistan....so the wreckage must be with you... Earlier one more starfighter of RJAF was claimed to have been shot down in utterlai but later on it was found to be of Pakistan..an clarification...

yes agree to you here...Lahore was successfully defended by Pakistan in the war...but to reach Lahore outers was itself an achievement for india.... plz stick to topic...i will tell you to start a new thread on indo pak wars of 1971/65