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  1. Tergon18

    Culture wars: Pakistan to demand 4,500 old artefact back from India

    Nice results man. Here are the results for an Indian (Bengali, second largest ethnicity in India). Scores no Indus Valley at all. For comparison, here is another Pakistanis (Punjabi) results Interestingly, DNA Land considers Indus Valley as Central Asia, and the component certainly has an...
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    Pashto words in Urdu

    In Pakistan atleast, it is only used for the British and Europeans in general. No one uses it for Pashtuns. Not sure about India, though. 'Vilayet' was used for the British state and starting referring to all Europeans. You can google 'vilayeti', references come up only to Europeans/British.
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    Pashto words in Urdu

    Vilayet and vilayeti is from Arabic word willayah, not from Pashto. And it's only used to refer to the British or Europeans, as far as i know. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vilayet
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    Punjab and the Rebellion of 1857

    I think that it is interesting that some Punjabi Muslims like Hayat Khan and Jan Muhammad were allied at some time with Durranis while others like Adina Khan fought them at various times. Same case with Nader Shah, Mukarrab Khan Gakhar allied with him and joined him onto Karnal while others like...
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    Punjab and the Rebellion of 1857

    'Pathans of Chatha'? Lol:yahoo: That is an error or fallacious narrative. Chatthas are Punjabis and are still present in great number in Gujranwala area.
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    Punjab and the Rebellion of 1857

    Shahanchibashi was general of Zaman Shah Durrani, though not sure if he was Afghan. His surname is interesting but doesnt sound Afghan. Hayat Khan Warraich captured Islamgarh 1797 and Shahanchibashi made it his base of operations, so was he allied with Waraich?
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    Punjab and the Rebellion of 1857

    Yeah at first Gakhars captured Gujrat Which later fell to the Bhangi Misl As for Punjabi Muslims, they were first united under Adina Khan Arain when the Rohillas invaded Punjab and were driven out And after on a greater scale against the Sikh Misls He could have been like Abdali, who...
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    Punjab and the Rebellion of 1857

    Yeah, people of AJK area (Mirpur, Rajauri etc.) speak a dialect of Punjabi identical to Potohari. Only the Dards of the Valley are considered 'Kashmiris' and speak Dardic.
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    Punjab and the Rebellion of 1857

    There were some e.g Kapurthala Bhattis, Jarrals, Janjuas, but in general, I would agree with you.
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    Punjab and the Rebellion of 1857

    Rajauri is right next to Mirpur and the entire AJK area is just an extension of Potohar, which in turn is part of Punjab. Secondly, there are many Jarrals in Punjab as well. Idk what you mean by Punjab not having 'rajas'.
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    Punjab and the Rebellion of 1857

    Well, to be fair, you too threw 'insult' of Mughals not sending marriage proposal to Punjabi Muslims despite there was Punjabi Muslim queen of Jarral clan who was the mother of Emperor Bahadur Shah-I.
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    Punjab and the Rebellion of 1857

    Rai Ahmad Khan Kharral's resting place at Jhamra It was built by his grandson, Rai Ali Muhammad Khan Kharral (from Facebook page: https://m.facebook.com/RAI-AHMED-KHAN-KHARALShaheed-Official-464479400324958/) The grave of Rai Ahmad Khan Inscription at grave Leader of British forces...
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    Punjab and the Rebellion of 1857

    Mughal emperor Bahadur Shah I's mother was the daughter of Raja Tajuddin Khan, the Jarral chief of Rajauri (which is near Mirpur), and was the wife of Aurangzeb. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahadur_Shah_I Punjab at that time was de-facto independent under Punjabi Musalman ruler Adina Khan...
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    Punjab and the Rebellion of 1857

    Hmm. Well, even if they had managed to do that it would have only lasted for a short while and the British surely would have regrouped and attacked once more and captured Punjab again due to their superior millitary technology and funds.
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    Punjab and the Rebellion of 1857

    What do you think would have happened if the Nawab of Bahawalpur joined the war on the side of the rebels as requested in the letter sent to him. Could British rule have possibly been overthrown from Punjab and the Bahawalpur Daudpotra Abbasis been made rulers of an Azad Punjab?
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    Zainab Tari Soomro, Queen of Sindh

    @Kaptaan @Mentee @Max @Maira La @Zibago @django @save_ghenda @lastofthepatriots @PAKISTANFOREVER @Braith @haviZsultan
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    Zainab Tari Soomro, Queen of Sindh

    Zainab Tari Soomro (Sindhi: زينب تاري, Urdu: زينب تاری ‎) ruled as the Queen of Sindh (in modern-day Pakistan) for ten years from 1092 AD until 1102. She was the only queen who had ever ruled Sindh as an absolute ruler. History She was the daughter of the Soomra King Asamuddin Daula Dodo Soomro...
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    Adina Beg Arain planned extermination of entire Sikh community

    It is not nice to generalise an entire community. There are good and bad in all.
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    Punjab and the Rebellion of 1857

    The second incident of rebellion among the civilians occurred in the hills of Murree. Like Punjab and Kashmir, Murree too was under the occupation of the Sikhs until 1849. The people had always resisted the unpopular Sikh rule. Most of the people were apparently content with the British rule...
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    Adina Beg Arain planned extermination of entire Sikh community

    He wasn't out to exterminate all Sikhs, but some of the Sikh Misls that were making trouble. The Randhawas that are mentioned who were under him were Sikhs themselves. His army also included some Hindu Hill Rajas, but was majorly made up of Punjabi Muslims.
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