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    Oxford Imam:Young muslims taught that white girls are cheap

    You can`t have the cake and eat it too..you are disputing the credibility of the report whilst simultaneously drawing on figures contained within it, in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary based on actual convictions in recent years, to disingenuously argue that men of Pakistani...
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    Oxford Imam:Young muslims taught that white girls are cheap

    I hope you are aware that the CEOP report itself was commissioned primarily on the back of concerns around organised sexual rings involving Pakistanis that has been around for years? So the HO had clearly identified a problem at that point and the review was essentially an attempt to establish...
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    Oxford Imam:Young muslims taught that white girls are cheap

    So you think 3 million out of 60 is not a big enough sample size to make an estimation of differences in incidence with reasonable confidence? Promptly bin whatever statistical textbook you got that from. The fundamental issue is not whether Muslims commit the majority of these crimes but their...
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    Oxford Imam:Young muslims taught that white girls are cheap

    So an op-ed piece by a leftie apologist in the Guardian (I thought you guys hate commies?) full of half truths, speculation and innuendo is supposed to trump overwhelming evidence, numerous convictions and statements from leading figures within the Muslim community itself? Did you check the...
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    Oxford Imam:Young muslims taught that white girls are cheap

    The mindset is already in place..all that is required is for the opportunity to present itself...
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    Oxford Imam:Young muslims taught that white girls are cheap

    You are conflating two different issues here. That figure was produced by a charity, is highly speculative in nature and is not based on actual prosecutions. It tries to put a cumulative figure on different forms of child exploitation including trafficking and private fostering. Nowhere does the...
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    Oxford Imam:Young muslims taught that white girls are cheap

    @muse, it would be disingenuous of me to claim that Islam specifically directs the faithful and go forth and prey on white children but I do feel there is a fundamental problem in how doctrinal Islam is understood currently that contributes to shaping Muslim perceptions in a manner that fosters...
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    Oxford Imam:Young muslims taught that white girls are cheap

    Having read the entire thread, I am yet to come across any post by Indians which claims paedophilia is an exclusively Pakistani problem. Child rapes do happen all over the world including India, a fact which Windjammer is always at pains to remind us, but systematic grooming and abuse on this...
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    Oxford Imam:Young muslims taught that white girls are cheap

    Not true..not all of them were from working class backgrounds, for instance, 'Girl C' though adopted was from what would be regarded as a middle class background. Some of the Rochdale and Oldham victims also belonged to loving,caring families but were successfully recruited by the gangs. I...
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    Oxford Imam:Young muslims taught that white girls are cheap

    No one is denying the existence of Peadophilia in other communities and, where found, such crimes are equally condemnable. Social evils such as child marriage or trafficking for sexual exploitation are rampant in many parts of the world but in most cases, apart from a few notable exceptions in...
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    Oxford Imam:Young muslims taught that white girls are cheap

    In fact Al Jazeera aired a documentary last year on a similar trend in the Netherlands, this time involving Dutch Moroccans who are the largest Muslim minority in that country.The victim profile, process of recruitment, pattern of abuse etc are disturbingly similar to those found in the UK...
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    India 2.0- returning to the land of opportunity

    India 2.0- Returning to the land of opportunity by Mick Brown Over the decades millions of Indians have emigrated in search of a better existence. Now increasing numbers of their descendants, born in the West, are heading in the opposite direction and establishing exciting new careers in the...
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    Oxford Imam:Young muslims taught that white girls are cheap

    Aslan,many members of the Oxford gang were described as belonging to 'well to do, respectable families', were married with kids of their own. I am not claiming that these individuals are representative of the entire Muslim community but as cited in the article, there is an 5 fold...
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    Oxford Imam:Young muslims taught that white girls are cheap

    If you cared to open the link you'd have realised that the title is taken from the original article, which incidentally is authored not by any old Islamophobe but a prominent UK based Muslim cleric. As far as the religious background of the abusers being irrelevant, I thought the whole point of...
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    Oxford Imam:Young muslims taught that white girls are cheap

    The Oxford sex ring and the preachers who teach young Muslim men that white girls are cheap By Dr Taj Hargey The terrible story of the Oxford child sex ring has brought shame not only on the city of dreaming spires, but also on the local Muslim community. It is a sense of repulsion and...
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    Pakistanis one of the most racially tolerant countries in the world

    Wrong question...In Pakistan's case it should have been 'people from a different religion/denomination of Islam'
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    Imran Khan and the myth of the 'Islamic Welfare State'

    AJP, Thank you for your kind comments. I am sorry I couldn`t respond earlier due to work etc. I appreciate the links you provided in your post to illustrate what you regard as an early Islamic welfare state. Although I haven`t read all of them, I think I have read enough to grasp the thrust of...
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    Imran Khan and the myth of the 'Islamic Welfare State'

    I came across this video of Imran Khan in another thread on ‘Islamic Welfare State’ , a phrase that has recently entered the Pakistani political lexicon thanks largely to the efforts of the ex cricketer. From what I gather, much of IK’s electoral campaign hinges on the promise...
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    Greece-the gathering financial storm

    The powers that be have agreed to a 'partial' default by Greece on its debts. This was on the cards all along- expect Ireland and Portugal to follow. All that they have to do now is protect Spain and Italy from contagion:undecided: The Euro's days (in its current shape and form) are numbered...
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    Somalia, land of anarchy-shocking BBC documentary

    Shocking documentary shot in Mogadishu. which follows the plight of civilians caught up in the civil war in Somalia..It describes how AL Shabab, through its embargo on foreign aid, has worsened food shortages and piled misery on the local population. The utter ***** and poverty that Somalis...
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