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Do not derail this tread again, by posting off topic, and bringing OBL into this. Back to the topic. Recent posts moved to http://www.defence.pk/forums/war-terror/25233-christians-vs-muslims.html

That's the kind of retort from someone that's just been owned! So to speak.

A retired major, who took early retirement, and whose Brother had been killed in Afghanistan, had aided and abetted a terrorist organisation. NOT a serving soldier.

Thanks for the links...a real eyeopener...I suggest that you revive those old threads...

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Pakistani judiciary is not corrupt, no matter what a foreign NGO says. The bad apples would be less than 10 percent, and most of them are in the Chhoti Jajji, that is civil judges/judicial magistrates, who are at the bottom of the ladder.

Do you have any knowledge of the machinations of the Pakistani judiciary? I have, since two of my close relatives are a sessions and a high court judge. Trust me, they do not take dictation from the CJ. It is considered extremely unethical, and that's not how things work. Sometimes a...

listen, The CJ was not hearing this case. And senior judges hardly order juniors to decide according to their whims. Pakistan is not a Banana Republic!

This will give the militants a publicity coup, as they have always alleged that nothing illegal was taking place inside Lal Masjid. Now with Abdul Aziz, the burqa clad Mullah's release, they will claim that the court exhonerates their actions...Which is a completely false perception to take...

Out of countless news outlets and newspapers, only one or two in the UK even bothered exploring this avenue, let alone any major channels like sky or bbc. There's an information war, and it's all one sided. We, are just spectators in it.

please, stop trying to antagonise each other...I'm enjoying reading the posts, but the asides leave a bad taste...

You can counter as many less seculars as you want, no one is going to stop you from doing this, and I may even applaud you for it. Your conjectures regarding other people's motivations and beliefs is the issue that I have. As for calling people kafirs, I have been an opponent of this since...

I'm sorry, but I am not in the habit of 'compartmentalising' our members in who is an islamist, and who is a secularist. I have mroe pressing issues in my life, than to spend time intriguing about peoples political or religious beliefs. Any post that was about Baluchistan, I deleted. any post...

I have never propogated any 'Talib' views, and your aspersions on this I regard as an affront and a slander on my name. Please show me the instance where I or any other mod for that matter, supported any 'Talib' ideology. Your paranoia seems to be boundless, and as for deleting posts that...

Just because I told you to keep your discussion with Omar civil (whom i've also censured, on occasion), you then jump to accusing me of being part of a Talib monopoly? I do not see the correlation here. Please point out what in my post struck you of being 'Talib'? I am not selling...

muse, Please cut out the personal stuff...no talking about other member's alleged character deficiencies...let's be civil here.

In the end, it was closer to 100 Muslims for each Hindu...The reports of 2000 plus by Bharatiya NGOs are a gross underestimation, I think.

In actual truth, the planning for this operation targetting muslims had been going on for months. the incident at Godhra, where Hindu hard liners had been chanting slogans about the Ayodhya mosque attack, brandishing Trishuls and shouting at people in a drunken rage, and one yatri had...

As the topic had changed, recent off topic posts moved to http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/25177-americas-wooing-then-abandonment-taliban.html

23 October, 2001 By George Monbiot America's pipe dreamA pro-western regime in Kabul should give the US an Afghan route for Caspian oil "Is there any man, is there any woman, let me say any child here," Woodrow Wilson asked a year after the first world war ended, "that does not know...