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Based on the breakingdefence article the hull itself, the iver class around $133m, weapons, electronics and sensors worth of $207m, that's sums $340m like the article said and our budget around $360m, there is $20m left to.expand,..

I'm agree, heavy frigate we want to build Will act as wide area defence from incomming missile/aircraft threat,.longer radar range should do the job, with smart-s or shorter radar range, there is.no predominance on wide and vast Natuna sea

I tought smart s radar Will be replacing smart l, the thing that rotating blackscreen look alike?

as far as i know f16v considered as stop gap for ifx, the airframe design was older than Rafale but electronics and radar can be arguabel which one is better, Rafale can be considered if we want nuclear capability, but for next gen strike capability and air superiority ifx have much more...

Yes, but ifx status kinda hazzy right now, if we really serious about it we should pay our shares I tought ifx will be our workhorse after f16 era, if we choose Rafale over ifx i think there is not so much technology Leap compare to the f16v, just my personal opinion...

This is very interesting indeed, how about we buy 12 of f35, continue ifx, go upgrade of our f16 to newest level, drop su35 and rafale, can the budget dikondisikan?

How about korvet nasional project? Is there any news yet? And how about next batch for light frigate, is the kornas subtitution for light frigate or its a different project?

Bigger than our REM class frigate, hope that's our cornas baseline come true

Better go another local company to build cornas, PAL should focus in bigger ships and heavy figate program, If su35 got cancelled, Will Rafale chance became smoother or their is another aircraft nikung in next corner?

Glad to hear it, perhaps in the future we can technology from catepillar engine for our harimau, diesel for our heavy fritages, and aircraft engine for our ifx, And yes i feel we left behind in case of semiconductors fabrication, we only have some fabrication in Batam but i think we need more...

is there any information about semiconductor research and ToT for iron casting and diesel engine ?, somehow this is the basic core for advanced technology and our military vehicles and products depend on diesel engine thanks before

What bugging me, where is the idea to buy su35 come from?, with no commonality with su27/30, no ToT, not a favorite from the user, TNI AU prefer Falcon or even back years ago some rumors they interested in eurothypoon, The mindef can use these drawbacks againts the deal, since the procurement...

Buying procurement without any TOT isn't againts our own law /peraturan which said procurement should also with ToT? Hope mindef consisten with this, agree with cheesnut, su35 is a BIG waste of money if there is no data link to our other major assets

I can't argue that su35 is one of the best manueverability 4++ gen fighter, even more agile compare to western fighter, but thanks to the canard rafale gains more manueverability at least some claims says better than F35, The viper defenitly best choice to fill the gap until ifx mature enough...

i think rafale has advantage over su35, in my opinion the french have a better radar although less manueverability compare to the russian, better bvr, combat proven, more weapons choices, better integrated with previous system we have, the aquisition more expensive but maintenance cost seems...

in my wild opinion, since the president want to indonesia become independent in defence industry, IFX will be backbone for TNI-AU but from what i've read previously IFX get stumble because the US wont give us several key technology for the program, so what if the rafale selected to fill the ToT...

maybe process recruitment will be like a "contract personels" but pararell with reducing teritorial units step by step and reduce regular recruitment in military, so in long term it will reduce 70% of defence budget for "belanja pegawai" without significantly reducing numbers of personels, so...

Sorry it suddenly become something in my mind "bedakan antara merangkai modul yang sudah ada dengan membuat modul dari nol" if the rumour about PKR is true then theres no reason to not reject that's Damen offer, except if they renegotiate PKR ToT contract

That's quite reasonable and logic, Chinese CG have 10k ton ships, Vietnam on their way getting 4k ton CG, if we stick with Tanjung datu class, somehow we'll get bullied from those two

48rafale, scorpene gowind, smells like hoax to me We don't have this kind shopping behavior, especially when we heavyly interested to viper, iver and u214