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  1. araz

    PAF J-10C News, Updates and Discussion

    Can you translate it please. Regards A
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    Suicide attack on in Miran Shah, North Waziristan !!!

    How successful were the US and NATO? Surely you are not calling them dreaming idiots as well.
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    PAF J-10C News, Updates and Discussion

    No tangible data on MTBF, MTBOs. No data on war operations and how quickly aircrafts can be turned around for a sortie. What is their breakdown rate in case of high frequency war time use? The problem I have is everything is mired in obscurity. You say "it is the best!" I say "It is the worst"...
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    PAF J-10C News, Updates and Discussion

    I understand where you are coming from. However, a word of caution!!!! THERE is no data at all from open source literature to support your assumptions. There are glaring shortcomings in Chinese technologies which the PAF is trying to bolster hard by acquiring more F16s. You can see how they are...
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    Export bids for JF-17 Thunder Multirole Lightweight Fighter Aircraft

    Sir. Your analagy of 9x VS xp is wrong. You are failing to understand the counter argument. You willl not be able to do with the J10 what you do with the JFT. Long ago an AC said the upgrade potential of the JFT is far more than the J10. We continue to evolve the JFT because of 20 years of...
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    Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

    Windy Bhai. Is all the US Arse licking going to get us anything of the flying variety or not? A
  7. araz

    Export bids for JF-17 Thunder Multirole Lightweight Fighter Aircraft

    A couple of observations. You will continue to require a Hi Lo combo and therefore the need for more JFTs. I think the airframe life of the first block was 4k hrs which may mean replacements in mid 40s if I remember correctly. This means you will continue to require newer air frames...
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    Export bids for JF-17 Thunder Multirole Lightweight Fighter Aircraft

    I think unless your requirement exceeds 150 aircrafts the assembly will not be a viable option financially. The other question is the technical capability at hand to assemble the J10C and the Chinese willingness to let you do so. A
  9. araz

    PAF J-10C News, Updates and Discussion

    Were you the one giving me bhashan about comparing like for like? You cant compare a medium weight fighter with 2 light weight fighters so get your posts out of here into the rleevant section and I will respond if I have the time. Any more digression will get you a spankong from one of the...
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    PAF J-10C News, Updates and Discussion

    Idont want to digress from the main topic which is J10. Please transfer your post to the Tehas thread and I will respond if there is anything there to respond. By the way Bhai Tejas has the US engine so its MTBO will laways be better than the RD series. So no contnetion as this is precisely what...
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    SAC - FC-31 Grey Falcon Stealth aircraft for PAF : Updates & Debate

    You guys either are not understanding the issue or intentionally skirting round it which is intellectual dishonesty. SPELLING IT OUT AGAIN IN PLAIN ENGLISH. NO OFFICIAL FIGURES NO COMPARISON. NO COMPARISON --- YOUR CLAIM OR ANYBODY ELSE'S CLAIM IS WITHOUT ANY EVIDENCE AND THEREFORE VALUELESS. We...
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    PAF J-10C News, Updates and Discussion

    Bhai. JFT is still in production and advancing as we speak. Induction into PAF got delayed due to addition of mors capabilities and subsequent testing. Local production of AESA might also have been a reason. Financial crunch which is a well known problem in current Pakistani economic horizon...
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    JF-17 Block-3 -- Updates, News & Discussion

    Does anyone know whether the DERs can support sd10A plus sd15 combo? Help appreciated
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    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 7]

    100 PL15s were widely reported to have been sent over post Pulwama encounter. So I would contest that. However to what extent will the JFT block 2 radar be able to guide the PL15 to its target remains to be seen. A
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    SAC - FC-31 Grey Falcon Stealth aircraft for PAF : Updates & Debate

    PAF BOUGHT F7Ps AS WELL. Do you mean to tell me they were not bad? This logic does not impress me. So let me qualify that which you are avoiding. PAF bought the Ps as it was desperate to maintain zquadron numbers due to the US embargo. It was not a particularly enticing plane but given our lack...
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    SAC - FC-31 Grey Falcon Stealth aircraft for PAF : Updates & Debate

    OK. My information might be false. Please present the roght information which is credible. What we need to understand is that credible information is hard to come by when it comes to chinese platforms. PAF has bought the J10 with WS10 but no one will give any numbers on the WS10s MTBO. So the...
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    Imran Khan's message for new COAS and CJSC

    If it was done then it was wrong as well. It is important to understand i am against the basic principle of army interference in politics, no matter who they support. A
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    Imran Khan's message for new COAS and CJSC

    Perhaps not. But the army should also not ask its assets in the polity to move and give clear hand to the other parties t buy 20 sitting MNAs in the NA. If it wants to be "neutral" it needs to be "neutral". A
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    SAC - FC-31 Grey Falcon Stealth aircraft for PAF : Updates & Debate

    J31 remains a dark horse. The Chinese have been looking for someone who can finance the programme. They have been touting it to the Middle East, PAF amongst others. What PAF was hoping was the Chinese will develop it along with the J35 as their Naval fighter. However currently the situation...
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    Lt Gen Asim Munir selected as new army chief

    Why should IK be worried about the Ex Husband of his current wife. Does not make any sense to me. But then, nothing makes sense in this distorted country.!!!!
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