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It is HQ-9B. About what is offered or not. It is about what PAF wants to pay. If Pakistan buys FC20/J10B does that mean PLA haS dumped it already and moved to big numbers of J20? I doubt that. So why did they provide SD10 version 2 if PAF could get the first version? Now PAF showed JF17 suddenly...

I hear no one complaining about rimples on he MKI? When JF17 showed some it was headlines now the high tech MKI shows it no one sees it. ;)

Looks like EF2000 to me. Anyway, German F4 against anything else is a share joke. It is a flying brick. Anyone knows that.

Adding LCA in this list shows that it is not realistic list.

Every pilot loves his machine. I read it and saw nothing else then onesided comment.

0:13 PAF person.

What a waste of bullets. Do they really expect that bullets automatically hit their targets and huge distances.

There have been reports in the past. We haven't seen evidence. There are new reports (ACM) that Pakistan is looking into a few SAM systems. Let us wait. It will not be low altitude cause we are already saturated with that. Probably medium to long range. About getting noticed. Well, a factory of...

Well, your countrymen have even the lower attitude since inception... Don't tell me you never visited BRF.

Well, I am looking forward to what will be displayed. Not cause it is the opponent but purely what it is able to do. With indeed greed in the eyes of many producers it probably is going to be worth to watch. I doubt the LCA will make impact but still, it is a learning cycle of decades and we...

Agree. But in this world we have seen islamic nations acting the same way even after decades of mistakes. Only Turkey seems to be smart.

Well, China invited them last time in Zuhai. They went there with their display team. Strange that it is not replied in a normal way. There is almost zero that will not be known. And I highly doubt that LCA or MRCA programs have more to offer then what China already has. Same for Pakistan. The...

Indonesia was the same way crippled by the USA (f16a/b). Still they are looking at a new offer of 36 F16block32 for free if they pay the upgrade to block52. I hope they have wisdom but I doubt that.

The USA never exports the latest and certainly not the best. So if he parameters are transferred by PAF to China then there can be a certain certainty that China tweaks them to get better results. Hence we get better equipment. So, it is not suprising that Chinese radars in Pakistani service are...

It is even worser. JF17 provides TOT and production. With the MLU of the f16's it is just following assembly rules. You have to invest a lot to be able/allowed to do and you take over the risks.

Here how Dutch Airforce did almost the similar airborne maneuvre. But it is banking away, lower speed and lower G's. time 2:41

You have even water jet engines that throw huge amounts of water when there is a fire problem.

The USA will not allow the FIAR module in their F16. Bad investment. Only Israel is allowed to do that sofar. And even the Israeli f16 cockpit upgrade was not allowed to be exported. Hence we rather go for JF17 with Chinese equipment where we have the right to do what we want.

Tamil terrorism is and was exported by India. Tamils are Indians. Why trying to change the subject? Suddenly forgetting that Indian provided radars did not work when Tamils attacked with planes exported through India? I think we have to see the reality.

One moment Pakistan is close ally of China and now it is USA. Well. What can we say about the reality.