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No i have not said anyone denying this is about moon sighting is denying facts. I said the majority interpretation is that it is about moon sighting and gave a few versions of the said interpretations and an interview about Maududi’s views on the matter. If you argue to learn, then this is not...

As per reports majority of the members of the CII are abroad on Umrah. The Science and Technology ministry implored them to decide it before eid and that was the official answer. Go figure.

It is sent to CII for approval. They will discuss it after Eid.

I did. And i found no relevance. I did not lie i posted his views on Shariah ruling of moon sighting which you conveniently sidestepped. Cheap shots don’t win you arguments. Repeating the same again and again about my POV when i have clarified at multiple occasions that my POV is NOT THE WORD...

No it hasn’t been. You replied with an unrelated Hadeeth stating the Muslim ummah is illiterate and doesn’t calculate. Refute is a stretch even by your standards. Also i have absolutely no wish to quote you. But i must reply if you quote me. You should take your own advice.

I agree. Debunking can only be done to something that has a modicum of being a theory. On the contrary, i gave a Hadeeth prohibiting the beginning of Fasting WITHOUT sighting the moon. That is all the “strong argument “ i need. Whether you wish to address this Hadeeth or not, is entirely up to...

Brother i have limited knowledge on this query. But i will certainly look it up. Caliphates used to use fast horses to bring any witness/ person who sighted the moon.

I like how the moment i debunk one theory you come up with an entirely different one. First it was to prove moon sighting was even part of Islam. Now it’s where is calculating before hand prohibited. The Hadith clearly states “Do Not Fast unless you sight the crescent..”. What does that mean...

Whoever said anything about the naked eye? We use telescopes and all manners of equipment now. My point is you cannot substitute this with calculations. And as per this Hadeeth , it is vindicated. That’s my opinion.

Agreed with you quoting the Hadees. I also agree with the Hadees you quoted. Now please reply to what you deduce from the Hadees i quoted. The Hadeeth if taken at face value, as it should be, enjoins fasting ONLY when the crescent is SEEN.

I can only reply to what you say. In your reply you said ayat with secondary proofs or distortions. . You also said Hadeeth are time bound, lumping them along with fatwas. It is to this that i replied as such. If you do not disagree about Hadeeth then why have you chosen to ignore it as proof...

Calling Hadith distortions are excessive no? I am of the view that Sunnah is a far better implementation/interpretation of Quranic laws than we can ever debate. What you believe is totally up to you. Also note the last two pages spawned this mini debate because you rejected sources from the...

I will agree till such time that i find the text i was referring to. If that was the topic of discussion all along then your problem is solved. Wouldn’t you agree? 2-185 may talk about moon-sighting in tandem with the Hadith i quoted, to which you have no answer since you don’t believe Hadith to...

I quoted the English translation of Taqi Usmani . I also provided the source for that link. What more can i say about that.? You have provided English Translations as far as i recall . None of them were in Urdu. Also in Sahih International, the word moonsighting is not bracketed. It is the word...

I quoted Mufti Taqi Usmani’s version of translation. Why wasn’t that acceptable? The verse in tandem with the Hadith I quoted (i repeated this God knows how many times). Also note translations are interpretations because Arabic is not straight forward in translation. I will find Maududis...

As is everyone. Everyone is entitled to follow their interpretations. It is even better when we arrive at our own conclusions. I am all for this. We should explore this ourselves, with help from the texts of learned people of course. Well I cannot comment on this since it IS their...

No worries brother. I thought you meant me :-)

As i have maintained multiple times , this is not my interpretation. This in tandem with the Hadeeth i quoted (which you have disregarded) reinforces the fact that physical moon sighting is central to Ramzan at the very least. As i said brevity is the soul of wit so i wont reply to everything...

Brother if that is addressed to me , i have never said we shouldn’t use technology. Relying on it solely defeats the purpose in the sense that Sunnah is violated. Make of it what you will.

I have neither quoted Imam Ghazali nor Shafi. I have given an argument in favour of moon sighting based on fatwas of modern ulema i have read. Please stop assuming sectarian bias when i don’t identify as any sect. My argument was neither short sighted nor devoid of logic (like the example of...