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A preliminary deal for the sale of 24 advanced Russian Su-35 jet fighters to the People's Liberation Army indicates the technological hurdles China faces in developing its own J-20, especially in terms of engine technology, military analysts say. Mainland and Russian media reported last month...

Its 64 years now, and getting better by the year.:smokin:

MOSCOW—Russia is on target to register its first natural population growth since the fall of the Soviet Union, with a slightly higher number of births than deaths being recorded so far this year, the labor minister said Wednesday. Through the end of October, Russia had recorded 790 more...

HAHA, is that reason why Russian Military exports keep growing every year.:lol: Our Arms exports for 2011 were 13.2 billion, and this year it will even larger. Russian Arms Exports in 2011 Total $13.2 Bln | Defense | RIA Novosti

That's Russian engineering for you :smokin::smokin::smokin:

Your lack of knowledge is getting disturbing. 2015 PAK FA will be carrying this radar Tikhomirov new AESA Irbis-E Upgraded Su-35 radar riiiiiiiiiiiight :lol: This is about the only thing you got right.:agree: Their is no such thing early PAK FA or final PAK FA, you guys made that...

Your previous post Upgraded or modernized both your terminologies are wrong, at best PAK FA avionics are an a evolution of the Su-35s, in fact the very presence of an second generation AESA radar on the PAK FA makes your whole argument wrong, and only thing that might not be developed on...

Well, you guys want a AESA radar for the upgrade, and Irbis-E is PESA radar so thats marked off the list, Tikhomirov Scientific Research Institute of Instrument Design is the company that makes bars radar, and they have stopped developing bars line now and their concentrating all their efforts...

MKI upgrade includes first generation Russian AESA radar called Zhuk-AE, while PAK FA will get second generation AESA radar.

117 is only used on the PAK FA prototypes, and you just proved me right because nether Su-34 or Su-35 have AESA radar, or L-band radar. and all the items you just posted are available on this aircraft. ÎÀÊ :: Íîâîñòè OAK :: Êîðïîðàöèÿ «Èðêóò» ïåðåäàëà ÂÂÑ Ðîññèè ïåðâûå äâà ñàìîëåòà Ñó-30ÑÌ

Because this is a two seater, and it is inferior to Su-35 when it comes to aerodynamic performance.

This particular model is actually more advanced than than your average MKI, the big green HUD you see in the front comes directly from Su-35, and it has some Super-30 upgrade technology as well.:)

Mig-35 is under 2011-2020 government rearmament program, and will ordered from 2014 on.

:smokin::smokin::smokin: ÎÀÊ :: Íîâîñòè OAK :: Êîðïîðàöèÿ «Èðêóò» ïåðåäàëà ÂÂÑ Ðîññèè ïåðâûå äâà ñàìîëåòà Ñó-30ÑÌ

Russians officials have a history of saying one thing and end results being very different and Russian generals are world class trolls that make best ones here on PDF look rank amateurs in comparison, so if I were you I would not put much weight into those "statements", so don't be surprised...

Neather will the RUAF:) Testing of the new engine for the PAK FA in 2014 | idrw.org

Head of UAC said that production PAK FA will have F-22 like nozzles, so it doesn't make sense for first batch to have 117 with round nozzles, then switching to flat nozzles with Type 30 in the next batch. So not only it doesn't make sense but its downright stupid. If other programs are anything...

That's the same thing I said, that FGFA will powered by Type 30, and the lasted news is that Type 30 will be ready for the first production PAK FA and another their is really nothing joint about Type 30.

US has monopoly on 5th generation avionics, Europeans have none nor do the Isreal's, so the only way FGFA will be superior to PAK FA is if it gets US tech, which is not going to happen.

Everything you said is true, except that, FGFA will be using Type 30 engine begin developed for production PAK FA right now.