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It is because they are informal sector workers with no NPWP or tax information, so imagine it would be really hard to determine their rights to have stimulus to from the government. I wish Indonesia could integrate tax information as part of personal identification so that income of every...

I hope this time they use the good old steel or aluminium and stop experimenting with flammable material for combat ship.

But why tho? Tho Indonesia hasnt shown interest for big ticket items from SAAB, it has purchased more SAAB products compared to the Philippines.

Yeah, this pretty much sums up my earlier statement. I doubt the Chinese would be the first to join the 5th column. People were quick to forget that most KNIL and later PKI members werent Chinese or minority groups.

Yes and no. Yes Khilafah is not necessarily an ideology, No because a form of government represents an ideological background. It is impossible that an ideologically democratic nation has an absolute monarchy for instance, the same way secular country is almost impossible to have a form of...

True, but it hasnt come into that yet. And the word traitor should not be thrown that easily. The implication is far ranging. If he supports the invasion of Taiwan by CCP, so be it. Indonesia supports Palestine, but I can say most christian Indonesians are on Israeli sides. Are they traitor too...

Cmon, that is too much of a prejudice. Between him and Daniel, he is a lightyears away from being a „traitor“. Also, traitors are those who openly support khilafah in my opinion for the moment.

What is Sinophile actually? I mean aside from SCS EEZ issue, I am quite fond of China and Chinese economic and military achievements so far. I would still be throwing positive response and views towards China. But when it comes to EEZ issue and trolls, I am not shy to reply in kind also.

Still, that is not for us to determine. There are millions of peranakan and more who dont declare their peranakan status due to intermarriages within their families, you cannot generalize them. In time, that would be a question they will be forced to answer. In the meantime, I dont think...

any plans to add more 80m or bigger ships to the CG?

There will always be 5th column movement no matter how it would take shape. But that also depends on how Indonesia in general reacts to it. Does it want to equalize China = Chinese and take extreme prejudices like when the US rounded up Americans of German and Japanese descent during WW2 or...

That is why Indonesia is now taking interest in the SCS because apparently, China cannot control its own desires. Like I said, the moment China antagonizes Indonesia, China unnecessarily drags Indonesia into its SCS issue...

Sure, but it didnt diminish the fact that China caught the virus too. So the weapon backfired?

but China caught it as well, so whats wrong with the virus?

Hmm? So you admit that Covid19 is yours and therefore a Chinese virus? So Trump is right all this time?

Eh, that is too far fetched. This isnt 15th century. Indonesia has been staying in the sidelines until China starts to antagonize it over its EEZ. Getting Indonesia calm is easy, dont antagonize it. Indonesia and China do not have direct territorial issue and Indonesia is not a claimant there...

:rolleyes::lol: So easy yet you still cant stand your claim. So easy yet it is China that is begging for diplomatic talks over SCS and got turned down https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/indonesia-china-south-china-sea-united-nations-12847188 That wasnt a spank, that was a tickle:lol...

you mean your cg ship that ran away as soon as our cg arrived? cmon, even Vietnam had bigger balls than yours. Dont take the credits of their doings. :disagree:

Last time I check, we still catching your countrymen. So you cant control „your“ waters? How can you talk about tanks rolling in Jakarta when you cannot even assert your claim fully in SCS? Even against smaller countries like Vietnam? Like I said, walk the walk. :rofl:

Spank Indonesia? I see no tanks rolling in Jakarta, nor DF xxx missiles flying above and our CG still catching and sinking Chinese fishing ships caught in the water like it is Sunday. C'mon, you have talked the talk, when will you be walking the walk? The burden of proof is on you, not the world...