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Are you really this thick? It is added to the actual report, not the Tier list that enforces sanctions. That means the US right now would be sanctioning others in the same section like Romania and Ireland. Can you not read?

Did you read the report form the ACTUAL US STATE DEPARTMENT WEBSITE? Literally no one is reacting to this report, only sources are Dawna and (surprise surprise) Indian sites. This is a non story

Please read, Pakistan has NOT been listed, we are in Tier 2 watch list along with the likes of Romania and Ireland, This is misleading reporting by Dawn, as if we were placed there that would effectively end all Military to Military relations between US and Pak, even US are not that stupid...

Coming from who this I regard as a compliment.

If people want to make statements from some sort of inside knowledge they may or may not have, can forum members question the validity?! Yeah, kind of what I suspected.

No need to refrain, or to imply somehow you have access to insider info that no one else has and yet at the same time happy to share it (like you have been) on an open internet forum. It implies an inherent contradiction no. Not asking for any secrets, just very odd hearing about "regular"...

Firstly ETPS does give you access to more then just the actual aircraft owned by ETPS, and PAF pilots have undergone other schools as well (Namely China), India certainly does not have regular exercises with the USAF and Singapore/Thailand. Unless your defininition of regular is once every 3-5...

Possibly another 1,000 pages going by the length of this thread....

Pakistani test pilots have flown on many types too, does not make PAF "Cosy" with those tupes, not by a long shot. When you have front line combat squadrons go up in many air to air combat scenarios and do this many many times against pilots who are also trying their best to kill you, and you...

Greece would allow an Indian base? I am unsure. What military presence could India provide that Greeks themselves cannot?

This just shows the level of pettiness the Indians have, they think this may annoy Turkey. Truth of the matter is Turkey can offer Pakistan a lot in terms of defence tech. Greece has absolutely zero to offer the Indians in terms of tech that they are not getting elswhere, all India can offer...

That is quite some verbals and diplomatic gymnastics you did there. Basically India can intrude on the sovereign information of another country via a third party and has rights to do so, and teh Qataris agreed to this? Sorry, I smell BS....

" Sick of these fanboy theories, with all due respect " Yet in the very same sentence you go on to give a totally ancedotal account from a relative. You can see the irony right?

Be that so, they still hold a veto. You may prefer the world to be flat, but it is not. You cannot change facts, even if your media makes you think you can.....

Well, they seem to have UAE by the balls. A large expatriate work force and huge oil market mean UAE and Saudi are towing Indian line to a large extent, but Qatar has not shown this, I think partly as it relies much less on Indian labour and also relies more on LNG vis a vis Oil. The fact...

I must say, it does show, to a massive degree, how little influence India has on Qatar.

Again, reread my posts. No one is arguing against a modern Navy, but we after to apply Naval power appropriately within contstraints of the land war and our budget. Learn the lessons from even recently as Balakot. PN hunted anf forced a IN Sub to surface, it kept their carrier miles away. A...

Pipe down, after the year you have had with China they will suddenly approve your membership? Best you file this with "F-16 shot down" and "India offered F-35".....

My point was that naval strikes on targets far out in India from Sea will not effect the result of a fast moving ground war thousands of miles away. We do not seek to cripple Indias ability to fight (they are simply too large), but to defeat them on the battlefield. Two very different things...

Not really relevant to my pointy about ACM visits.