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Here we go again ... Wet dreamers and their wet dreams again. People are asking IAF has not given any official version if this is exactly the same Avenger which was hunted down by PAF on 27th. Reason is simple.... the movement IAF did that, Pracha Sahib will appear again on TV with some more...

J-10C / F-16 Newer Block / F-16V ... Something out of these 3 is certainly on the cards. J-10C is the most logical option both keeping in mind finances and future upgrades in mind. Qualitative gap between both air forces is increasing beyond the threshold.

It is all new to me as well. That's why made this thread. If we made requests for improvement, why PAF didn't go for it despite the fact that J-10 now has own engine, AESA, Sensors etc. nothing Russian anymore. J-10C ... called "Standard" version is out there? F-16s are one explanation but it is...

Picking holes ?? I have no clue what you are getting that idea from? But let me make it clear. My objective is stright forward for having this debate. I want to know what PAF wanted to see in J-10 when it evaluated it along with world's top notch delta wing / canard designs (EF/Rafale)? What...

Fair enough. Can we deduce from those so many threats the actual reason or let me put it this way, actual strategy PAF adopted which led to dropping J-10 back then and moving forward with JFT? And if F-16s don't come by in near future, what other option PAF will have for stopgap fighter before...

Dear It is not about AVM, It is about Alan Warnes and PAF's approach to counter the latest nemesis of PAF which is about to arrive in our east in coming weeks. That would be just logical because PAF has massive human resource pool that know this plane inside-out and we have emplaced all the...

At One time, in not distinct past, declared officially that they are going to acquire FC-20 (J-10A) and now someone with credibility has revealed that there were some issues with that plane and history proved it correct as PAF didn't went for it while in the same time, our enemy kept acquiring...

Ok. Two tweets were made yesterday by Alan Warnes Then he asked ... Now I think no one, except PAF, can answer all 50 issues he is referring to regarding PAF evaluating J-10A back in 2006-2008 but if we can have a serious debate can we unearth few of them here to understand better what PAF...

Yeah ... that is so obvious. If MLUed can have this, it has to be supported certainly by Block-52s.

Well, If you really want to copy and discuss some of his tweet. This one takes the lead.

Yes that plus that slanted tail adds to its sleak factor.

I don't know if it is just angle or something else, but in this particular pic, it really looks more sleak and really mean. Wish someone takes a pic from same angle with full load.

Politics will always be there as long as we are discussing possibilities of adding more F-16s :) Here is a useful link about US sensors including DB-110. This sensor is not even the top tier what they have provided to the US military...

Yep. And here is something rather interesting. "The Pakistani air force is already operating two similar recce pods, which will now be modified with suitable datalinks to match the new ground stations. According to the U.S. Defense Security Cooperation Agency ex-U.S. Air Force F-16A/B...

Alhamdolillah.

Fair enough! But has he ever gave the reasons why PLAAF is against the export of J-10CE. That's what actually matters in the end.

Now, I am little puzzled on whose word we must take. AVIC or Alan Warnes? But even if it is the case, PAF can approach PLAAF diplomatically to ask it to reassess the threats faced by PAF in larger balance of power equation emerging in the region due to Indo-US strategic partnership. I think real...

J-10C with PAF's specific customization is the only real option PAF has, that too if economy recovers in next few years. PAF has been looking for a new platform after F-16, but every time it was either economy or politics which proved too much to be overcome. JFT is a great program but we all...

Is this new squadron or consists on aircraft from existing squadrons just like F-16s.

It was time for someone to call spade a spade! IK did that. Then Mahatir did that. Before that Erdagon did that. It was a speech felt by everyone around the world who believe in freedom and human dignity. Haters will hate, but that doesn't matter. What really matters is the question that what...