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I wish I were wrong...but the fact is that there are very serious fault lines in Pakistan among ethnicities. Ask any poor Pathan or Baloch what he thinks of Muhajirs of Punjabis and he'll tell you that he doesn't like them and they don''t like him. Ask any poor Sindhi about Punjabis or Mohajirs...

This last time around was the first time I was in Pakistan when elections took place and I wanted to vote. It turned out that my name wasn't on the electoral roll and I had to go to City Court and meet with a certain individual to have my name added. From experience I knew that getting to and...

Ok...but the whole multiculturalism thing is good in theory...but even in the western "multicultural" countries they espouse some sort of shared heritage or unique values, i.e. French values or American values. In Pakistan we have a great deal of division. Every single province has a powerful...

The White House wins a disturbing legal victory - International Herald Tribune The Bush administration has been a waging a fierce battle for the power to lock people up indefinitely simply on the president's say-so. It scored a disturbing victory last week when a federal appeals court ruled...

Canadian MP presents petition: '911 Commission report is a fraudulent document' // Current This petition signed by some 500 Canadians was presented by the Deputy Leader of the New Democratic Party (NDP), which is one of Canada's main opposition parties in the House of Commons. This...

This article from an organization called Family Security Matters is the most insane right-wing article I have seen in a long time and I'm glad that Americans reacted to it rather than accepted it. It shows how rabid and insane these Neocons have actually become. In this, he is advocating...

Actually, 98% of Pakistanis are Muslim. Since 98% of Pakistanis are Muslim....this is the one thing that almost everyone has in common. There may be others...but I am wondering what they are...it isn't language, it isn't culture, or even ethnicity. very true. In fact, most don't. Well...

Well....if they're gonna reduce their involvement in Iraq....Haliburton's gotta make a buck from somewhere. I dont think they're nearly as dumb as you think...Cheney's stock options in Haliburton have gone up by over 3000% during the "Iraqi quagmire" and that company has made a KILLING...

This one is for SMustafaMoiz, Ok...I'm working on putting together a point by point definition of what secularism is. Take a look and tell me what you think needs to be added/changed/amended 1. The State, its legal code, and public institutions do not have any religion, nor do they take...

I didnt realize you and AA were so qualified in Islam that you could make the pronouncement that Islam is secular based on the Ayat you have quoted out of context. According to everyone on this site and everywhere else, Secularism is the separation of religion from state. So how can a religion...

Thanks to Asad-ul-Islam for this one...he posted it elsewhere but I'm using it here too. The article is from 'The Post', a major newspaper in Pakistan. US wants referendum in NWFP MainNews Archives Iqbal Choudhry ISLAMABAD: The US administration has floated a proposal before Pakistani...

thanks, I'm gonna put this in the other thread also since its part of a series of such articles that I'll accumulate there and hope that we aren't looking at it in a few years wondering why we didn't pay more attention.

Why dont you phrase your question in the context of the subject of this thread and we can include it in the discussion. However, Saudi Arabia is not secular....so I don't understand what you're trying to prove. We are discussing the failings of Secularism...not the tolerance of Saudi Arabia or...

You mean that it is Islam that we all have in common? You mean other than the green passport....the people of this country have nothing in common with each other? (and I have a Pakistani passport in addition to two others)

ok...so how do we free people from the clutches of the Fuedals/Zameendars? These people occupy almost every position of importance in the country and they are the ones who keep coming back because of their landholdings and the people that this enables them to directly control. How is this...

Dude....its a hypothetical question....I thought that was obvious. ....the Secularism of Saudi Arabia? :rofl: Saudi Arabia is not a secular country, makes no such claim and also makes no claim that it will accommodate freedom of expression or anything of the sort. I am not defending...

It is a fact that many Jewish American lobbyists and citizens are pushing the US into attacking Iran because they feel that Iran is a threat to Israel. If they are going to do that because of the fact that they are Jewish and therefore take this position on account of their Jewishness, then it...

What are you talking about? And where do you get this from?

I know plenty of Jews with whom I am friends and they are aware of my point of view. I employ Jews in Canada and have a Jewish lawyer as well as other Jews to whom I contract work. I reven received a high ranking member of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee in Pakistan and showed him...

I think its fair to stick to this thread and this subject rather than say that you have a general impression that everything I say comes from a certain point of view. Secondly, I have not made personal attacks against you or anyone else because they disagreed with my point of view....I have...