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t/w ratio below 1 is ok for mirage since its a strike aircraft . but for a dogfighter like jf-17 its not good .

well china has the habit of copying everything from mobile phones , cars to fighter aircrafts but you cant do anything . even russians cant do anything now .

omar sir dont trust every article . i can show you an article which says that jf-17 is even inferior to indian trainer sitara . but that is horribly wrong .

ok we are destablising afghanistan , china , pakistan , europe , usa , russia , and so on . omg the list is long . we are supporting al-qaeda , let , jaish -e-mohammad , moaists . omg the list is also long . those were not indian migrated pakistani those you call as 'kaafir' . but...

it was not a failure metal falcon sir . your country has nodded to the fact that mumbai killings were planned in pakistan . its a small step in the right direction .:pakistan::cheers:

on the other hand hats off to china . they have shown the world what a man can do if he really gets on top of it . this is one thing that everybody should learn from them .

if a chinese would have said this . it would have been appropriable . but a pakistani . omg u see just one movie and you start crying . the same situation is in pakistan . but the diff is that the pakistani gov is doing almost nothing to eliminate it . if u say india = terrorism and pakistan...

1) 1965 war was an evenly fought war . mainly due to the fact that india had just lost a war with china becoz of the non voilent actions of jawaharlal nehru . he spent as little as possible on defence and you all know that . he said that if we are not hostile to anyone , then no one will be...

lets keep our fingers crossed .

sir u say that india is your worst enemy . but ur wrong . ur worst enemy is terrorism . have you seen your swat valley . it has become totally out of your control . do something about talibanis operating from there as it is a very dangerous thing for the whole of southern asia . and regarding...

you are exactly right sir . i dont understand the changing requirements of indian army and air force . does that also happen in pakistan .

what do you think about gripen . does pak has any chance of getting them .

guys plz stick to the topic

:lol::lol::lol::lol: joke of the century . its the otherwise round sir . first part true .:bounce::bounce: second part :rofl: . where do you read all this stuff sir . some pakistani newspaper . ur a senior member sir . live upto ur stature . where did you learn this that our govt has...

dude dont trust wiki stuff .

somewhere i read 140 s . but that was some time ago and someone told me 170 . so sticked with the mean . the same is for other fighters . its definitely more than 116

NUMBER 1 RUSSIAN AIR FORCE 370 su-27 350 mig-31 close to 400 mig-29 TOTAL - AROUND 1120 NUMBER 2 CHINESE AIR FORCE 130 j-11 140 j-10 100 su-30 mkk 75 su-27 Heavily upgraded f-7e and f-7bg - estimating around 75 to 100 TOTAL - AROUND 525 NUMBER 3 INDIAN AIR FORCE su-30...

no the mca is to replace jaguars and mig-27s . and im not sure that it will enter service within 10 yrs since right now its just an idea . u can talk about FGFA . its goin to enter service within 5-6 yrs .

fennecus . i want the same thing but believe me america will do anything to make sure that this doesnt happen . coz she knows that if india and china join hands there will be an enormous shift in power which will be against her favour .

absolutely true . take out f-7 , mirage and a-5 from that list .