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Ahiska you don't even understand what i wrote, read a couple of times until you can grasp it, or when your English is good enough. I may be asking too much, but i believe in you bro

I admit i went over the top with that comment, but i still don't see a reason for scrutinizing history and historical persons. That is the way we do it here in Europe, source criticizm is of uttermost importance when you analyze certain historical events. You can't say "what we learned in...

Turkish police detains ISIS in Istanbul

Firstly, I dont have a turkish citizenship. Secondly im actually doing a masters degree in a Scandinavian university. As i said, nothing really amazes me from an indoctrinated citizen who has gone through the turkish education system. I really dont care about your background. Your words are a...

Reported for being kemalist propaganda Look at the title of the thread, it says Koc in silent war with government. If this thread doesn't contain political elements, what is it then? About the orbit of the moon around the earth?

It has never really ceazed to amaze me, how people force themselves in their beliefs. I'm not sure if it is due to some sort of a wicked proudness. I'm not an arrogant person, but sometimes i can't keep myself from writing this way, when confronted with debils like legionnaire

Who wants Turkey to become Arabia, Kemalist bigot. Turkey was North Korea during your masters Ecevit and Demirel. If you have access to the internet and a laptop and can express your simple ideas in a broken foreign language its thanks to Turkey having experienced progress during decent people...

No one is buying your Kemalist crap propaganda anymore. People are already fed with the African standards the country went through during the heydays of Kemalism. No more will they vote for people who are unable to express ideas orally or comprehend simple concepts that require a little more iq...

Hahaha, that threat, oh my god, i'm gonna get arrested! Learn to speak English properly kemalist bigot

We should just give Izmir to these Greek lover leftist bigots. There they can devote all their time in making huge statues of Kim Jung Un, ups i meant Kemal

You sound like a mad child who keeps shouting BABAAAA! If you can't handle some criticism what are you doing here? Everyone has to believe in the crap history lessons you were taught in your crappy third class backward kemalist school education right? Reported

It really doesn't surprise me how low iq you guys are. You went through a heavy indoctrination and tampered your brains with Ataturk Ataturk Ataturk Ataturk Ataturk. You have no idea what source criticizm is. You don't even have the sufficient brain capacity to comprehend my words at your...

We don't live in the 90s anymore mister and this is not Turkey where M. Kemal is untouchable. If you are unable to handle the truth, then keep living with your beliefs, whatever they are.

I don't think that is an insult, but a way of expressing my view on M. Kemal's ideas on the root causes of the Ottoman Empire's backwardness. You could call it a number of other things like, the secularism project or stripping islam away from the conscience and state, in my honest opinion it...

And by the way, why is it forbidden to crisize M. Kemal's policies? If a progressive open forum like this denies people's opinions, then what is the purpose of discussing, if the purpose is only to bandwagon on the same ideas and not granting the right to openly scrutinize our history. In fact...

I don't insult Mustafa Kemal. I am barely expressing the fact, that Mustafa Kemal's goal was to "modernize" Turkey through reforms he saw fit. And what he thought was wrong with the Ottoman empire was obviously our "backwards" islam, he expressed this several times. I actually don't think M...

We are not allowed to utter our opinion in this forum? Explain to me how it is insulting, as a person who was born in Turkey and got educated there, i'm truly amazed how much in ignorance you live

The Kafirization project of Mustafa Kemal has failed miserably in Turkey even after his extremely hard efforts trying to convert a muslim country into a bad copy of France. For 70 years Turkey was a laughing stock in the eyes of the world. I remember those times in primary school in Sweden when...

Well we are not oil rich arabs who employ servants because we can't lift our obese asses. We know like you that you have to shed some sweat. Ugh don't remind me of Arabs please

Please don't derail the topic. I was actually reading the conversation until you brought in politics again. Just a friendly reminder ^_^