French presidential frontrunner: colonisation of Algeria "crime against humanity"

vostok said:

It seems to me, we should not stir up the past. Today, he admitted that his fathers and grandfathers committed crimes against civilization. Tomorrow, he will say that the modern French have to pay for these crimes. The day after tomorrow, he will say that the French need to make room and let all natives of former colonies to live in France.
And then France will be gone.

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Thanks god it's only "seems to you".... seems you lack in politics..

Jugger said:

What is wrong is wrong, colonialism was bad and we must learn from our past mistakes.
I support the French presidential candidate for his statements condeming past occupation of Algeria by France.

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The arguments they used are they civilized the barbarians oh brother ypu dont get more racist than this

vostok said:

It seems to me, we should not stir up the past. Today, he admitted that his fathers and grandfathers committed crimes against civilization. Tomorrow, he will say that the modern French have to pay for these crimes. The day after tomorrow, he will say that the French need to make room and let all natives of former colonies to live in France.
And then France will be gone.

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Didnt the world make an issue over Turkey not accepting the alleged Armenian genocide?

Zibago said:

The arguments they used are they civilized the barbarians oh brother ypu dont get more racist than this


Didnt the world make an issue over Turkey not accepting the alleged Armenian genocide?

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This is private affair of Turkey - to recognize or not to recognize the genocide. No one can demand from modern Turks to repent for the events of past times.
Human history is a history of wars. And we can do nothing about it.

Zibago said:

The arguments they used are they civilized the barbarians oh brother ypu dont get more racist than this


Didnt the world make an issue over Turkey not accepting the alleged Armenian genocide?

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There was no genocide in Alg,France didn t try to exterminate them

ValerioAurelius said:

Will you apologize for tyrants like Aurangzeb? Yes or no?

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Was he Pakistani or fron the regions that makeup Pakistan?No he was a foreigner your argument is invalid

Zibago said:

Was he Pakistani or fron the regions that makeup Pakistan?No he was a foreigner your argument is invalid

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No it isn't. He was from your people and he was a monstrous tyrant.

Point is, i would never apology for anything my ancestors did. Evry decission a leader does must be for the well being for his own people. Macron is a cuck. A pathetic weakling. He is exactly that type of leader that people in the west look down now and he is the reason why the far right gains more and more votes.

Why is it, that we never see an apology from algeria, libya and morocco for their pirates and slave trade?

Past is past and history is history. I dont feel sorry for colonialism. Why should i? Its part of human nature. A colonized country can only blame itself, that it allowed it to happen.

ValerioAurelius said:

No it isn't. He was from your people and he was a monstrous tyrant.

Point is, i would never apology for anything my ancestors did. Evry decission a leader does must be for the well being for his own people. Macron is a cuck. A pathetic weakling. He is exactly that type of leader that people in the west look down now and he is the reason why the far right gains more and more votes.

Why is it, that we never see an apology from algeria, libya and morocco for their pirates and slave trade?

Past is past and history is history. I dont feel sorry for colonialism. Why should i? Its part of human nature. A colonized country can only blame itself, that it allowed it to happen.

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I agree

HannibalBarca said:

Thanks god it's only "seems to you".... seems you lack in politics..

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I'm sure that if Erdogan Said he recognised Armenian genocide and that Turkey committed a crime against humanity there calling on your country to apologize, I'm sure you will all be calling him all sort of names on here and asking for his removal from power.
Past is past, no point in going there. Many politicians often do this for their own political reasons anyway, not because they care much about past victims. Lol

vostok said:

It seems to me, we should not stir up the past. Today, he admitted that his fathers and grandfathers committed crimes against civilization. Tomorrow, he will say that the modern French have to pay for these crimes. The day after tomorrow, he will say that the French need to make room and let all natives of former colonies to live in France.
And then France will be gone.

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Over reacting a bit aren't you mate? Besides to be fair you did force them to learn french and french culture...

ValerioAurelius said:

algeria, libya and morocco for their pirates and slave trade?

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You had slave trades too and no one is asking you to apologize for them, also the pirates were spain's fault for taking over parts of North Africa so suck it up.

ValerioAurelius said:

Hey amigo. Since you like history. Ever visited the great egyptian museum in Torino? It has biggest egyptian collection of old egyptian art. Bigger than Cairo.

Was there at their Halloween show in october. You can stay at museum during night then and they make a show between your ancestors mummy stuff. spooky!

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Why do you keep mentioning that museum? It is only a matter of time before Egypt gets it, so I will just wait till it gets back to Cairo

Besides Italy is sooooo Boring, all you have is a leaning tower and a coliseum. Rome and Venice are over seen and visited by everyone. I would prefer just looking through post cards with pictures of Italy on them.

The only thing remotely interesting is probably Florence since I watched that Medici show on Netflix and that was because it had Richard madden.

EgyptianAmerican said:

Why do you keep mentioning that museum? It is only a matter of time before Egypt gets it, so I will just wait till it gets back to Cairo

Besides Italy is sooooo Boring, all you have is a leaning tower and a coliseum. Rome and Venice are over seen and visited by everyone. I would prefer just looking through post cards with pictures of Italy on them.

The only thing remotely interesting is probably Florence since I watched that Medici show on Netflix and that was because it had Richard madden.

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Its italian property and will never go back egypt.

Italy is cool. Come and visit. Lucca and entire Tuscany is consided most beautiful region in world. Milano is fashion capital of world.

I visited egypt as a kid in 2005. You should visit Italy too. If you ever come here tell me and i show you around.

ValerioAurelius said:

Its italian property and will never go back egypt.

Italy is cool. Come and visit. Lucca and entire Tuscany is consided most beautiful region in world. Milano is fashion capital of world.

I visited egypt as a kid in 2005. You should visit Italy too. If you ever come here tell me and i show you around.

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Florence is better, and the south, near Bari and san severo.... Naples is good, well at least bf, since few years it became not very nice around there. Rome is nice, but one visit and you saw everything.

Vergennes said:

Why should I feel sorry and apologize for something I have nothing to do with and that happened under previous generations and governments ?

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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...s-vote-denial-crime-criminalise-a7117091.html

ValerioAurelius said:

Its italian property and will never go back egypt.

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Keep dreaming mate!

ValerioAurelius said:

You should visit Italy too. If you ever come here tell me and i show you around.

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I will consider but no promises, I am visiting Alaska for family and after that Egypt to handle some Real estate stuff and to do stuff with my cousins. So my travel plans are filled up.

ValerioAurelius said:

He was from your people

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He was not born in regions that makeup Pakistan nor was his origin from places that makeup Pakistan so how did he transform into a Pakistani?

HannibalBarca said:

Florence is better, and the south, near Bari and san severo.... Naples is good, well at least bf, since few years it became not very nice around there. Rome is nice, but one visit and you saw everything.

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Florence is way too much people and cramped. Evryone says Lucca is better, believe me.

@EgyptianAmerican I'll welcome you here.

I dont know though what you mean with "keep dreaming". That stuff is here since more than 100 years. There is no way it will be given to egypt. You know that.

1. egypt is not safe
2. its italian property
3. egypt has not the political or economical power to get it back

So you should visit it here and enjoy it.