Pasban

no prob, its ok! I'm also good! So how's everything back in Iran?

Salaam brother!

how are you?

Tell me about it, i come from an area in Pakistan where their are hardly any Shias and a family that consists of mainly hardcore Sunnis whom are strongly opposed to our religious beliefs, we hear some incredible things but we are used to this by now although for Iranians who come from a community consisting of mainly all Shias it must be extremely bemusing and an eye-opening experience to hear what other religious factions have to say about your beliefs.

Firstly grouping Pakistani and Indians shia together is rather ignorant on your part although you meant no harm in it. From my years spent at an Khoja(Indian) Shia Sunday cool I noticed many of our views and mindset are vastly different. Indian shias based in U.k are alot less emotional and follow the taqleed of Ayotullah Sistani with great care to adhere to his every ruling whereas Pakistani are the opposite, extremely emotional and don’t really like the idea of choosing a Marja whom they are bound to. There is no clergy in Pakistan, people listen and take advice from Maulana or Peers, the only respected figure of Pakistani origin is Ayotullah Najafi(r.a) who is based in Iraq. It would be great for Pakistanis in their homeland to have a Shia clergy whom they can follow their taqleed and learn from but it isn’t possible due to the hardcore elements within the country who would not hesistate to murder.

Blade tipped chains are known as Zanjeer-E-Zani by all Pakistanis, I honestly disagree with Sistanis views on Zanjeer-e-Zani, many Pakistani Shias use Owais-ibn-Qarni hadith and others to justify their act and feel that although these practises came from Iraq and Iran they are stopping Zanjeer Zani solely to appease those sects who try to tarnish our image when we all know if we stop this practise they’ll use something else to demonize our sect with.

The only two communities out of all the major shia communities i have come across that perform the act of Zanjeer-E-Zani are the Pakistani and Afghans(Hazara+Pashtuns), Indian Khoja refrain from this act due to Sistani ruling and have a blood bank present on Ashura so people can donate blood instead of shedding it.

Its interesting you highlighted that issue regarding the removal of tops, my brother-in-law is Lebanese and he also said the same, i personally have no qualm with people taking their shirt off infront of an all men gathering but when people do it in the Bazaar in Syria or on a procession where women are present then i disagree with it strongly and regardless of our religious views on it, it should be seen as immoral and against the social norms in muslims countries. I believe this is a practise passed from generation to generation because in Pakistan our majalises are outside instead of inside due to the heat and in most Pakistani communities women mainly remain in their houses so there’s no hesitation for the men to remove their tops while ignorantly they continue this practise when in foreign countries like Syria/Iran and Iraq where women are able to walk freely.

Hopefully as our younger Pakistani generation in the west integrate with various Shia communities of different backgrounds and hear their greviances with this practise hopefully some Pakistanis will refrain from taking their shirt off.

I'm intrigued to know what other practises amuse our Iranians brothers. Btw feel free to ask anything I'm more than happy to answer them to the best of my knowledge.

Sorry for the lengthy reply

man 5 sal ast dar chin hastam. rasti ghzonehei ba onvan threat zadid nabood va nashod anjam bedam.

Thanks for the clarification and it's nice to see you come from a religious background. Yeah all my friends say the same about the beauty of Isfahan, i hope to visit Naqsh-e-Jahan square one day. Lahore wasn't my cup of tea, found it pretty unpleasant compared to areas in the North and Islamabad.

Im glad to know Pakistani's treated you with the courtesy and respect our Iranian brothers deserve, unfortunately many Pakistanis are becoming extremely ignorant and intolerant of Iranians due to elements within some religious factions propagating lies about Iran/Iranians to make people refrain from researching about the Shia school of thought.

Salaam brother, from Ziyaraat groups i've been on the Iraqis along with some Indian shia told me the have a large community of Shia based in Paris, France. Yeah i've have travelled to Iran, its a beautiful country and the people are so friendly and welcoming. I was there very briefly on Ziyaraat as it was with a tour group so i only spent a couple of days in Tehran, Qom and Mashad before we headed off back to Syria. Inshallah next time my Iranian friends go hopefully I'll get to see Iran properly with them as i'm hoping to visit Persepolis, Tabriz and Isfahan. Nice to hear your from Qom, do you come from a clerical family background?

سلام
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سلام
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ممنون

you got it

stange, yes.

Love the sword

Salaam Brother

Inshallah you are in good health. It's me who should be thankful for your friends request, your my first one lol. Paris is a fascinating city and I've heard they have a strong Shia community there. You Iranians are so blessed to be able to do Ziyaraat as well as see friends and family residing in Iran. My family reside in West London while i am currently a student at University. Where about in Iran does your family originate from ?

There are a few Pakistanis on this forum who reside in Pakistan, but you have to look for them! Some of them barely comment on any thread, but if they do their english isn't very good so that should let you know that they are in Pakistan!

w/s bro - thx for the friend request. Alhamdulillah I'm great and in good health. How about yourself? It's nice to see a shia Iranian brother here.

Btw, Are you located in Iran?

Walaikum Salaam bro!

I'm good, what about you? BTW, i don't speak Pashto, i was raised in America so i speak English and some Urdu, but no Pashto (sadly).

Oh I come from Lahore in Punjab.

However I only lived in Pakistan for 2 years of my entire life. I was also born there but I moved to the united states before I could even walk.

Do you live in Iran currently? Or you live elsewhere?

Just chilling around. What about you?