After Philippines, USA starts losing Malaysia to China

[lonelyman]

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2016-10/30/c_135791702.htm

USA's pivot to Asia to contain China is in real trouble, money talks, USA is actually bankrupt and can not afford to give substantial economic assistance anymore but some old navy vessles

Her strategy is "democracy and freedom" bombs , used to fool some people with fake high moral ground but people saw what happened in Iraq, Syria... Not working anymore

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

In fact only 2 countries really opposed us in Southeast Asia.

The Philippines and Vietnam.

After Duterte, the Philippines is no longer applicable. Which only leaves Vietnam left, whose one-party government (Communist Party of Vietnam) already leans towards China.

Not that anything would have stopped our construction in the South Sea anyway.

 

[war&peace]

In fact only 2 countries really opposed us in Southeast Asia.

The Philippines and Vietnam.

After Duterte, the Philippines is no longer applicable. Which only leaves Vietnam left, whose one-party government (Communist Party of Vietnam) already leans towards China.

Not that anything would have stopped our construction in the South Sea anyway.

It is great but uncle sam is betting on a bigger horse and that's India. The rest of the pawns have already left US camp especially Duterte has gotten really tough for us.

 

[Beast]

It is great but uncle sam is betting on a bigger horse and that's India. The rest of the pawns have already left US camp especially Duterte has gotten really tough for us.

India? Look at the rafale saga, how long has it been dragging and we yet to see a screw of rafale being make yet.

Indians are difficult customers while American are not dumb to let you know all know how which Indians demand.

If USA is betting on Indians for big. I think they will be disappointed.

Btw, I hope RMAF will buy China advance trainer like L-15 too. But usually manys are undertable and will only reveal when we saw it enter service.

 

[AndrewJin]

It is great but uncle sam is betting on a bigger horse and that's India. The rest of the pawns have already left US camp especially Duterte has gotten really tough for us.

Good news, both countries originating from UK will be doomed...

 

[war&peace]

Good news, both countries originating from UK will be doomed...

I think China and Pakistan will prevail but right now Uncle Sam is offering India a lot incentives and remember India is intrinsically against China as India has a special policy of being tough on her neighbours and befriending their enemies.

 

[AndrewJin]

I think China and Pakistan will prevail but right now Uncle Sam is offering India a lot incentives and remember India is intrinsically against China as India has a special policy of being tough on her neighbours and befriending their enemies.

Good luck to them....Befriending any of this pair always makes for disaster in history.

 

[Sully3]

problem is no one can predict US foreign policy till the next government comes in Trump could mean a whole new chapter in foreign relations, where as Hilary could continue with the same Obama approach

 

[lonelyman]

problem is no one can predict US foreign policy till the next government comes in Trump could mean a whole new chapter in foreign relations, where as Hilary could continue with the same Obama approach

No matter what, USA in decline, 20 trillion $$$ in debt, democracy and freedom bombs not working after Iraq. Except extremely foolish, they can not fool anyone

 

[Beast]

problem is no one can predict US foreign policy till the next government comes in Trump could mean a whole new chapter in foreign relations, where as Hilary could continue with the same Obama approach

The only hope for US to revive her economy is stop overseas meddling policy. Cut down military spending by trimming overseas base. Withdraw from Japan, Carrier number cut down to 5 super carrier. Decommission 20 AB destroyer and Aegis cruiser. Military spending drop to USD400billions per annual.

Let China be the leader in Far East. Co operate with China on economy and innovation.

You see US military policy is nothing but a disaster while China economy policy has help beat US in Philippine and Malaysia. Sooner or later more countries will join China. Who wants war when food can be serve and peace prevail?

 

[Place Of Space]

The only hope for US to revive her economy is stop overseas meddling policy. Cut down military spending by trimming overseas base. Withdraw from Japan, Carrier number cut down to 5 super carrier. Decommission 20 AB destroyer and Aegis cruiser. Military spending drop to USD400billions per annual.

Let China be the leader in Far East. Co operate with China on economy and innovation.

You see US military policy is nothing but a disaster while China economy policy has help beat US in Philippine and Malaysia. Sooner or later more countries will join China. Who wants war when food can be serve and peace prevail?

A large group of Amercian will lose jobs if their govt cut down military spending, you know, none politicians would like to take the risk, though it may be potentially beneficial to the people.

 

[Beast]

A large group of Amercian will lose jobs if their govt cut down military spending, you know, none politicians would like to take the risk, though it may be potentially beneficial to the people.

But america current mode is unsustainable. The US dollar as main dollar will come down sooner or later. Just like Saudi need to reboot their Oil export oriented mode economy. I am sure US do not want to become Soviet Union.

 

[lonelyman]

A large group of Amercian will lose jobs if their govt cut down military spending, you know, none politicians would like to take the risk, though it may be potentially beneficial to the people.

There are more areas worth spending money, for example on infrastructure, will create more jobs and more beneficial to the society instead of wasting 3 trillions on Iraq and achieve nothing

 

[Place Of Space]

There are more areas worth spending money, for example on infrastructure, will create more jobs and more beneficial to the society instead of wasting 3 trillions on Iraq and achieve nothing

Talking is cheap, we should understand this. For example, you are now 40 years old, you spend most of your career life in military industry, even if infrasturcure can create more jobs, you still can't find a job in the industry, you are jobless. Miliatary industry is one of the main industries in America, it won't change until it comes to a dead ending.

 

[Beast]

Talking is cheap, we should understand this. For example, you are now 40 years old, you spend most of your career life in military industry, even if infrasturcure can create more jobs, you still can't find a job in the industry, you are jobless. Miliatary industry is one of the main industries in America, it won't change until it comes to a dead ending.

Yes, just like how Soviet Union ended.