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If Indian media was making the propaganda, then Pakistani were not different either.


The Pakistani side also employed different tools. Shortly before the war broke out, Radio Sada-e-Kashmir, set up as ‘revolutionary radio’, was reporting stories of ‘audacious attacks’ by Kashmiri separatists on the Indian military, some of which carried over to the mainstream Pakistani media. In its August 11, 1965 edition, Dawn ran the headline: “Patriots cut Srinagar-Jammu Road”.

Reporting a night raid, quoting Radio Sada-e-Kashmir, the paper said separatists also destroyed nine bridges on this main road that linked the summer capital Jammu with Srinagar and the Kashmir Vale. The paper also published a map showing various other important road links from across the 1948 ceasefire line supposedly under the control of the ‘revolutionary council’ that had been set up as a parallel government to the Indian administration in Kashmir.

In reality, Pakistan’s covert operation – codenamed ‘Gibraltar’ – did not achieve all the objectives, prompting another operation, named Grand Slam, to be launched on September 1, 1965. Pakistani Army conducted the second operation to capture Aknor, a town in Jammu, to sever communication supplies to Srinagar, something Sada-e-Kashmir had claimed already happened.

In this second major operation, both sides used regular forces and heavy war machinery including tanks. Pakistan claims that before their second operation, the freedom fighters on the Indian side of the ceasefire line were fighting against Indian forces. However, India claims Pakistan had entered more than 30,000 troops into the Indian side in the guise of locals.

Many historians say that Pakistan had launched Gibraltar with a strong belief that it would stir a mass uprising by local Kashmiris against Indian occupation. The expected results were not achieved, they say. However, in desperation to ease mounting pressure by Pakistani forces on the Kashmir front, India attacked Pakistan and crossed the international border on September 6 at three points, which marked official beginning of the 1965 war.

The war ended on September 22 as the result of the Tashkent accord, brokered by the Soviet Union and signed by President Ayub Khan and then Indian Prime Minister Lal Bahadur Shashtri. Both sides agreed to withdraw to pre-August 1965 boundaries by February 25, 1966.

Both sides still claim that they gave a crushing blow inflicting heavy casualties to the other side and won the war. However, most independent war historians dispute claims of the two sides and say it was a draw and none of the two was ultimate winner in the battlefield.

So your best bet was wikipedia in this case, fabulous!

Hmm, how about the front page headline of a major neutral newspaper for a change?
 
What I fail to to understand, why beating the bush again and again, why 65, 71 again and again.

Or should I say

LAGE RAHO MAMOO LOOG, EK DUSRE KO MAMOO BANANE ME !!!
Yara its September.
Here its celebrated as Defense Day. Hence its obvious to discuss 65 war again and again.
Don't know what Indians celebrate these days? :rofl:
i thought i appreciated your effort of not trolling.....
Because amid all that confusion about attacks and captures and what not, this one was the easiest one to straighten out :D
Wasay shak mujy b isi walay pa tha! :lol:

For Christ Sake, its Before Christ. (BC)
You should remove your misconception regarding Grumpy cat :D
So your best bet was wikipedia in this case, fabulous!

Hmm, how about the front page headline of a major neutral newspaper for a change?
That will start armored battle on this thread.............
 
So crossing LOC with 26,000 - 33,000 Pakistani soldiers was fooooorrrrrr? Sweets?

26000 or 260000. The thing is we crossed LOC and you crossed international border.

You started 65 war.
 
Yes.

We crossed LOC.

You crossed International border.

Farq saaf zahir hai. :)

So if the Afghans do not consider the Durand Line a border, can they just come across and start occupying land as they please and it should not be considered a declaration of War?
 
So if the Afghans do not consider the Durand Line a border, can they just come across and start occupying land as they please and it should not be considered a declaration of War?

It is not what Afghans consider matter. It is what world consider it to be that matters.

LOC is not considered international border by the world.

You could have answered Pakistan's offensive on LOC itself. But you started all out war against Pakistan by crossing IB.
 
Again you avoided the question, give to the point answer and not on how the war situation builds up and what your country could have done and stuff. Let me ask you again, Which country started the war with what objective?

india started the war with aim to capture lahore.

is that simple enough?

So if the Afghans do not consider the Durand Line a border, can they just come across and start occupying land as they please and it should not be considered a declaration of War?

yup most definitely BUT is durand line listed as a disputed terrority in UN? which Nehru did in thecase of kashmir
 
Stupidity has no limits....

Pakistan started war in disputed region since India started skirmish in that area because of local uprising along with at Run Of Katch...
Indian forces soon realized they can't defend Kashmir and they plans to attack Lahore, Sialkot to capture these cities and in case of fall of Kashmir they negotiate Kashmir for that cities.

Because of Indian attack Pakistan shifted attention to defend Indian coward attack which India violated Internationally recognize boundaries. Indian GOC pompously plans to have breakfast at gym khana (Lahore) but end up in running from the war theater left behind his command jeep.
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LOL - Look at the date of this clipping of the Australian. Now look at this newspaper from 1942 -
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Do the Japanese go around claiming they won WW-2 because they captured Singapore and won that battle? LOL. Thankfully not. Your paper is about a battle in a War. Learn the difference.

It is not what Afghans consider matter. It is what world consider it to be that matters.

LOC is not considered international border by the world.

You could have answered Pakistan's offensive on LOC itself. But you started all out war against Pakistan by crossing IB.
Actually it was not known as the LoC then. It was known as "The Cease-Fire Line". You violated the cease-fire, not India.
 
india started the war with aim to capture lahore.

is that simple enough?



yup most definitely BUT is durand line listed as a disputed terrority in UN? which Nehru did in thecase of kashmir
A disputed territory - sure. But with a cease-fire line. You violated it and expecting your opponent to not violate the IB AFTER you violated the cease-fire line is downright daft. There were no further lines after the cease-fire line - so in your opinion - India should waited for the Pak Army to come down to Kanyakumari because they did not violate the IB and only the cease-fire line? :coffee:
 
Actually it was not known as the LoC then. It was known as "The Cease-Fire Line". You violated the cease-fire, not India.

Yeah I know. It was called LOC after Shimla agreement.

Anyways we violated ceasefire line. You violated international border.

Hence it is you who started the war.
 
If war is on internet then i am 100% sure we can lose any war with in minutes to Pakistani superior internet warriors .... any ways Congrats on your Victory in 1965 :) may god bless Pakistan with many such victories in future
 
Yeah I know. It was called LOC after Shimla agreement.

Anyways we violated ceasefire line. You violated international border.

Hence it is you who started the war.

LOL. It is called "cease-fire" line for a reason - you cease to fire across it. Technically, the North and South Koreans are still at war but you think if North Korea violates the cease-fire line, South Korea is not entitled to respond wherever it wishes? You do realize the North Koreans come across more sensible and restrained than Pakistan and that is quite something.
 

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