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Amarinder: India almost lost Amritsar in ’65 war

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Fifty years after the 1965 Indo-Pak war, deputy leader of Congress in the Lok Sabha, Captain Amarinder Singh, has shed new light on an order allegedly given by the then Army Chief to withdraw Indian Army troops in Punjab, which could have led to the surrender of Amritsar.

Speaking to The Indian Express, Amarinder revealed he is writing a book on the 1965 war to mark its 50th anniversary. The book will trace battles fought in various theatres during the war, and give detailed information about several contentious issues.

One of these is an order allegedly given by then Chief of Army Staff Gen J N Chaudhari to the then General Officer Commanding-in-Chief of Western Command, Lt Gen Harbaksh Singh, to withdraw Indian troops in Punjab. The order, had it been carried out, would have meant the surrender of Amritsar to the Pakistan Army, besides causing panic among Indian troops.

In September 1965, the Pakistan Army surprised Indian defenders in the Khemkaran Sector in Punjab when their armoured division made a dash towards the town of Khemkaran and captured it. The Indian Army had to pull back towards the village of Asal Uttar to consolidate their defence. The Pakistani division was believed to be in a three-pronged attack in which one column was heading towards south of Amritsar, one towards the town of Jandiala and another towards Beas. After the initial surprise, the Indian Army reinforced its presence in the area and the Pakistani advance was defeated in the Battle of Asal Uttar. The village is now known as the graveyard of Patton tanks.

Amarinder, who was the aide-de-camp of the GOC-in-C during the war, said he was a witness to the fact that Lt Gen Harbaksh received a call from Gen Chaudhuri late at night while the Pakistani armoured offensive in Khemkaran was under way. Gen Chaudhuri wanted the Indian troops to withdraw to river Beas, which would serve as a natural barrier to stop the advance of Pakistan’s armoured division.

“We had returned from Khemkaran very late and the general had gone to sleep when I received the call from the chief and put it through to the army commander. The general was heard telling the chief that he would not carry out those orders, and if he wanted this to be done, he should put it down in writing,” said Amarinder.

According to the former Punjab CM, the army chief went to Ambala the next day and met the GOC-in-C but did not mention his order of the previous night, because by then the battle in Asal Uttar had stabilised and the situation was under control.

“Had it been anyone other than Lt Gen Harbaksh, he would not have been able to resist the orders of the army chief. And had those orders been carried out, we would have had to surrender Amritsar, and the road from Beas onwards to Delhi would have been open because there would have been general panic. It would have been a repeat of 1962,” said Amarinder.

The book, expected to be out later this year, and will also include details about why several brigade and battalion commanders were removed from command during the war. Having witnessed the war from the vantage point of an army commander’s staff, Amarinder will be using the information to give a clearer version of what happened in those fateful days of September 1965.

Amarinder: India almost lost Amritsar in ’65 war | idrw.org
 
Damn it Indians !!! Why do you always defend you territory :mad:
Not always. IA withdrew from Khem Karan and sat with their WW2 Centurions and anti tank guns prepared in an ambush...in an arc position. Also had a reserve battalion of tanks ready - all old and vintage taand inferior to Pakistanis in number. Flushed with capturing the Khemkaran town, the Pakistani 1st Armour(as far as I can remember) dashed forward. The civil administration had already opened a couple of flood gates when the Pak tanks entered. Within a day, they were stuck in the mud. The columns that overcame that suddenly faced one ambush after another. Before they could retreat, the Air Force was having a duck shoot. Then the reserve column cut their lines of retreat. A smaller broken older tank column was able to capture 97 Pakistani Patton 58 tanks. :D Most were abandoned after being stuck in the mud. :P
 
Not always. IA withdrew from Khem Karan and sat with their WW2 Centurions and anti tank guns prepared in an ambush...in an arc position. Also had a reserve battalion of tanks ready - all old and vintage taand inferior to Pakistanis in number. Flushed with capturing the Khemkaran town, the Pakistani 1st Armour(as far as I can remember) dashed forward. The civil administration had already opened a couple of flood gates when the Pak tanks entered. Within a day, they were stuck in the mud. The columns that overcame that suddenly faced one ambush after another. Before they could retreat, the Air Force was having a duck shoot. Then the reserve column cut their lines of retreat. A smaller broken older tank column was able to capture 97 Pakistani Patton 58 tanks. Most were abandoned after being stuck in the mud. :P

Yeah i remember watching the documentary on Assal Utter. Patton Nagar FTW :D
 
chandiwala was stalemate for Pakistan they lost almost 518 km2 to india after that battle

Roughly 200 Sq Miles, that is actual territory of Pakistan in India's hand at the close of war compares to
roughly 1600 Sq Miles, Indian territory in Pakistani Hands at the same milestone.
 
You NEED to understand battles are not important if they don't win you Wars.

Chawinda was a tactical success for Pakistan. But here's what the Indians did differently from Pakistan in Asal Uttar -
i. The Indians fought till the tanks were disabled. Very few working tanks were captured.
ii. Though 100 Indian tanks were destroyed/captured by Pakistan, , net loss of Pakistani tanks was about 50. The Pakistani counterattack lost steam and stopped further attacks on the Indian lines.
iii. On the contrary, roughly 12 tanks were in working condition in Asal Uttar where 100 Pakistani tanks were captured and many other vehicles destroyed. Also the Pakistani retreat was disorderly and they lost a lot of heavy equipment. Indian withdrawal from Chawinda was done slowly - first the center, then the left flank and finally the right. There were almost no prisoners. Most disabled and old tanks were also blown up in the retreat.

Thanks.
 
The civil administration had already opened a couple of flood gates when the Pak tanks entered. Within a day, they were stuck in the mud.

That is the real game changer.....does Indian government awarded those in Civil Administration for that fateful act?
 
Roughly 200 Sq Miles, that is actual territory of Pakistan in India's hand at the close of war compares to
roughly 1600 Sq Miles, Indian territory in Pakistani Hands at the same milestone.
In 65, India lost 520sqkm and Pakistan lost 1840sqkm.

That is the real game changer.....does Indian government awarded those in Civil Administration for that fateful act?
:D During war, it comes under Military Administration. :)
 

Of course the later is bigger in terms of the forces involved.But you need to keep in mind that,while in the first case,the attacker,Pakistani Army,had a numerical advantage of almost 2.5 to 1 ratio over the defenders in that sector where as,in the later battle,the defender,again Pakistani army,was numericaly superior to the attacker!!
 
You NEED to understand battles are not important if they don't win you Wars.

Chawinda was a tactical success for Pakistan. But here's what the Indians did differently from Pakistan in Asal Uttar -
i. The Indians fought till the tanks were disabled. Very few working tanks were captured.
ii. Though 100 Indian tanks were destroyed/captured by Pakistan, , net loss of Pakistani tanks was about 50. The Pakistani counterattack lost steam and stopped further attacks on the Indian lines.
iii. On the contrary, roughly 12 tanks were in working condition in Asal Uttar where 100 Pakistani tanks were captured and many other vehicles destroyed. Also the Pakistani retreat was disorderly and they lost a lot of heavy equipment. Indian withdrawal from Chawinda was done slowly - first the center, then the left flank and finally the right. There were almost no prisoners. Most disabled and old tanks were also blown up in the retreat.

Thanks.
Isn't centurion and patton were equivalent as both had 90mm gun?
 
You NEED to understand battles are not important if they don't win you Wars.

Chawinda was a tactical success for Pakistan. But here's what the Indians did differently from Pakistan in Asal Uttar -
i. The Indians fought till the tanks were disabled. Very few working tanks were captured.
ii. Though 100 Indian tanks were destroyed/captured by Pakistan, , net loss of Pakistani tanks was about 50. The Pakistani counterattack lost steam and stopped further attacks on the Indian lines.
iii. On the contrary, roughly 12 tanks were in working condition in Asal Uttar where 100 Pakistani tanks were captured and many other vehicles destroyed. Also the Pakistani retreat was disorderly and they lost a lot of heavy equipment. Indian withdrawal from Chawinda was done slowly - first the center, then the left flank and finally the right. There were almost no prisoners. Most disabled and old tanks were also blown up in the retreat.

Thanks.

Wrong again.As per the official Indian history,only 40 or so tanks,mostly the outdated Shermans were destroyed where as a further 30-35 tanks were hit but recovered and put into action after repairs.Do not go by wikipedia all the time bro.

Roughly 200 Sq Miles, that is actual territory of Pakistan in India's hand at the close of war compares to
roughly 1600 Sq Miles, Indian territory in Pakistani Hands at the same milestone.

Which book did you get your numbers from man??!! :O
 
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