Featured 2.5 Front or 3.5 Front? Indian Army has another front within its own ranks

[RIP Pak LAW]

This is serious development. Needs to follow upcoming developments.

 

[Windjammer]

Muktis were mere auxiliaries, it was us who sank half your navy, destroyed a quarter of your air force and a third of your army. You did not surrender to them you surrendered to us.

Then you creatures have the nerve of saying others talking BS.
Just be happy a Pakistani forum gives you a voice.

 

[Windjammer]

Kettle calling pot black lol.

Epic fail......epic fail.

 

[Capt. Karnage]

Epic fail......epic fail.

Ok:

 

[Capt. Karnage]

Then you creatures have the nerve of saying others talking BS.
Just be happy a Pakistani forum gives you a voice.

That's your counterargument? Lol and you creatures accuse others of BSing lol

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Rift in top army ranks comes to light, Gen Naravane steps in
After receiving representations from both the three-star officers, Naravane nominated the army’s vice chief Lieutenant General SK Saini to look into the matter and submit a detailed report with measures to streamline the functioning of the command headquarters, the officials said.
INDIA Updated: Sep 21, 2020 20:34 IST

HT Correspondent | Edited by Sohini Sarkar
Hindustan Times, New Delhi

Chief of Army Staff General Manoj Mukund Naravane has nominated a senior lieutenant general to iron out the rift between the two senior officers.(ANI PHOTO.)
Differences between a top army commander and his second-in-command came to light on Monday, with army chief General Manoj Mukund Naravane nominating a senior lieutenant general to iron out the rift between the two senior officers, people familiar with the developments said, on condition of anonymity.

The differences --- rare in the army’s top echelons --- between the head of the Jaipur-based South Western Command and his chief of staff relate to roles and responsibilities of various offices in the command headquarters, the officials said, without elaborating on the exact nature of the ongoing tussle between the two lieutenant generals.
There was no official word from the army on the development.
The South Western Command is headed by Lieutenant General Alok Kler, an armoured corps officer, and his second-in-command is Lieutenant General KK Repswal, who is from the Corps of Engineers.
After receiving representations from both the three-star officers, Naravane nominated the army’s vice chief Lieutenant General SK Saini to look into the matter and submit a detailed report with measures to streamline the functioning of the command headquarters, the officials said.

“Differences of opinion at that level can hinder day-to-day functioning and decision making. The fact-finding mission will hopefully resolve the matter,” the officials said.
The South Western Command has around 130,000 soldiers and is responsible for guarding India’s border with Pakistan in Rajasthan and Punjab.
On December 31, 2019, Kler wrote a letter to commanders under him asking them to shun military pageantry, ensure offices shut by 2 pm (the time they are meant to be shut), and encourage professional dissent (as different from insubordination) as they focus on their primary task --- constant readiness for battle.
In directions issued to 265 commanders on New Year’s Eve to improve the operational readiness of the South Western Command, he asked them to adopt a nuts-and-bolts approach to soldiering as “it’s not a question of if but when we go to war.”

If india is too weak, powerless and scared to take on Pakistan then HOW on earth can they on the Chinese superpower..........

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

The more of Modi/Yogi/BJP/RSS/Hindutva etc., especially amongst the "educated" Indians, the merrier...

 

[alphapak]

Panic is setting in with winter fast approaching, China can unleash anytime.

 

[SQ8]

This country is not pakistan and no one here cares what you want.

This is a Pakistani forum and you can get lost if you think you have even an iota of power to dictate what a Pakistani posts or doesn’t.

 

[SQ8]

On topic: this could be a case of a professional officer fighting against political appointees by the fascist Indian government - hopefully the system and honorable officers get their way.

 

[MM_Haider]

Rift in top army ranks comes to light, Gen Naravane steps in
After receiving representations from both the three-star officers, Naravane nominated the army’s vice chief Lieutenant General SK Saini to look into the matter and submit a detailed report with measures to streamline the functioning of the command headquarters, the officials said.
INDIA Updated: Sep 21, 2020 20:34 IST

HT Correspondent | Edited by Sohini Sarkar
Hindustan Times, New Delhi

Chief of Army Staff General Manoj Mukund Naravane has nominated a senior lieutenant general to iron out the rift between the two senior officers.(ANI PHOTO.)

Differences between a top army commander and his second-in-command came to light on Monday, with army chief General Manoj Mukund Naravane nominating a senior lieutenant general to iron out the rift between the two senior officers, people familiar with the developments said, on condition of anonymity.

The differences --- rare in the army’s top echelons --- between the head of the Jaipur-based South Western Command and his chief of staff relate to roles and responsibilities of various offices in the command headquarters, the officials said, without elaborating on the exact nature of the ongoing tussle between the two lieutenant generals.
There was no official word from the army on the development.
The South Western Command is headed by Lieutenant General Alok Kler, an armoured corps officer, and his second-in-command is Lieutenant General KK Repswal, who is from the Corps of Engineers.
After receiving representations from both the three-star officers, Naravane nominated the army’s vice chief Lieutenant General SK Saini to look into the matter and submit a detailed report with measures to streamline the functioning of the command headquarters, the officials said.

“Differences of opinion at that level can hinder day-to-day functioning and decision making. The fact-finding mission will hopefully resolve the matter,” the officials said.
The South Western Command has around 130,000 soldiers and is responsible for guarding India’s border with Pakistan in Rajasthan and Punjab.
On December 31, 2019, Kler wrote a letter to commanders under him asking them to shun military pageantry, ensure offices shut by 2 pm (the time they are meant to be shut), and encourage professional dissent (as different from insubordination) as they focus on their primary task --- constant readiness for battle.
In directions issued to 265 commanders on New Year’s Eve to improve the operational readiness of the South Western Command, he asked them to adopt a nuts-and-bolts approach to soldiering as “it’s not a question of if but when we go to war.”

just wait for sometime.. this terrorist rogue army will kill each other... long live Modi..he is proving himself to be Gorbachev of India sooner than expected...

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

After india surrendered 1,000 sq km without firing a single bullet, someone needs to go. I wonder who will be the lucky scapegoat?

 

[MilSpec]

On topic: this could be a case of a professional officer fighting against political appointees by the fascist Indian government - hopefully the system and honorable officers get their way.

couple of things:
The differences --- rare in the army’s top echelons --- between the head of the Jaipur-based South Western Command and his chief of staff relate to roles and responsibilities of various offices in the command headquarters, the officials said, without elaborating on the exact nature of the ongoing tussle between the two lieutenant generals. The difference of Opinion is between the Lt Gen and his own 2IC, not some political appointee by the fascist government. Also given you are deviating from the script, shouldn't you be using Nazi instead?


Remind me again where does the majority of hiring and firing of political appointees in the military at the top echelons happens again?
Removal of CiC G.H Khan
Appointment of COAS Gen Tikka Khan,
Appointment of COASGen Zia Ul Haq (Junior of the eight Lt Gen's of his time)
Appointment of COAS Gen. Kakar (Superseding 5 Lt Gens?)
Removal of CJC/COAS Gen Karamat
Appointment of COAS/President Gen Musharraf. (Superseding three others)
Appointment of COAS Kyani (Superseding Gen Kidwai)
Appointment of COAS Bajwa (Superseding two others)

But then again, just like political interventions have resulted in the selecting military leadership, the other way around has also been in works throughout. So do they cancel each other out and results in a zero score? Squeaky clean by arithmetic?

Also reading a few threads, quite a bit of strategic expediency of the younger lot is based on dua, it seems.

tc

 

[Capt. Karnage]

This is a Pakistani forum and you can get lost if you think you have even an iota of power to dictate what a Pakistani posts or doesn’t.

I am not dictating but only showing them reality. Btw I would advise you not to stoop down to the level of common pakistanis trolls.

 

[SQ8]

I am not dictating but only showing them reality. Btw I would advise you not to stoop down to the level of common pakistanis trolls.

Try not being a smart alec and trying to wash over the statement you made. Whether it affects or not, Pakistanis have full authority to make any statements that follow the rules regarding India - Pakistan defense forum.