Syrian air defenses repel Israeli aggression, intercept several hostile missiles over Damascus

[Falcon29]

Actually he has a good point. You do sound awfully similar to the Israelis here.

No he doesn't have a point, it's just junk the Iranian cult group here on this forum like to pedal. And literally no one besides the cult group care.

And the reason for this is apparent for anyone with minimal level of rationality.

No one cares or discussed the reason, we are talking about the US troops injuries. All fake injuries to receive disability payments.

Of course, Iran should have invaded the US mainland in retaliation to satisfy the standards of you Palestinians.

You mean to satisfy your own base? You guys hear yourselves and what kind of threats you make? Let's remind you of some of the more tame threats:

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“Martyrdom was his reward for years of implacable efforts. With his departure and with God’s power, his work and path will not cease and severe revenge awaits those criminals who have tainted their filthy hands with his blood and the blood of the other martyrs of last night’s incident,” Khamenei said in a message to Iran, IRNA reported.

"This was the biggest US strategic blunder in the West Asia region, and America will not easily escape its consequences," it said in a statement.


https://www.militarytimes.com/flash...ni-as-iraq-government-condemns-assassination/
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You guys acting all bravado in front of Middle East audience and unlike on this forum where you can't get away with it, you try to pass off lies and fakes stories to ME audience.

Either your government and fanboys shut the fvck up and stop with the bravado and lies or put themselves to the test. It's that simple.

When was the last time anyone attacked a US base in peacetime? And once again, see above.

That's not peacetime, you guys were at war after the drone strike.

Yes, let's compare non state actors to an entire nation. It's indeed a brilliant analogy.

All it shows is a non state actor with minimal funds is more true to their word than your whole government and country is.

I'm not evening showing the people what kind of propaganda your government pushes to domestic ME audience and how you guys claimed to kill CIA officials and fabricated a figure and published whole thing on your media and twitter handles.

Ijld.

 

[Philosopher]

No he doesn't have a point, it's just junk the Iranian cult group here on this forum like to pedal. And literally no one besides the cult group care.

You seem to be quite affected by his statement. And no, it's just an observation, not some Iranian conspiracy here. Even your reply to his claims proves to the point further. You simply cannot deny the near identical sort of claim you're making compared to the Israelis. I am not saying you're not Palestinian, only to be careful to not to resort to the same claims as they do.

No one cares or discussed the reason, we are talking about the US troops injuries. All fake injuries to receive disability payments.

You're trivialising Traumatic Brain Injury. Please don't make such statements unless you can actually back them up.

You mean to satisfy your own base? You guys hear yourselves and what kind of threats you make? Let's remind you of some of the more tame threats:

If you're so insistent on trying to use Iranian claims, then why not provide the full picture (assuming you're aware of it)? Iran has stated the revenge for Soleimani is the removal of US from Iraq i.e a mid-long term goal. This was one of the goals of Soleimani's himself. This is Iran's promise. I am not sure what you wanted Iran to do, assassinate Trump? Masscare 100's of their soldiers and start a war?

You guys acting all bravado in front of Middle East audience and unlike on this forum where you can't get away with it, you try to pass off lies and fakes stories to ME audience.

Frankly, the only person I have seen here that is actually trying to spread misinformation and disinformation is you and mainly the Israelis. Given how you, either deliberately or out of ignorance are painting a completely wrong picture.

Either your government and fanboys shut the fvck up and stop with the bravado and lies or put themselves to the test. It's that simple.

No even needs to put themselves to the test according to your requirements. Your kind should first deal with your own problems before expecting fantasy scenarios from other nations.

That's not peacetime, you guys were at war after the drone strike.

Their strike was an act of war, but that does not mean Iran and US were at war. Learn the subtleties.

All it shows is a non state actor with minimal funds is more true to their word than your whole government and country is.

All it shows is you can't differentiate between some non-state actor and an entire nation. I am not here to teach you basics.

I'm not evening showing the people what kind of propaganda your government pushes to domestic ME audience and how you guys claimed to kill CIA officials and fabricated a figure and published whole thing on your media and twitter handles.

Once again, sounding identical to the sort of conspiracies these Israelis create here.

 

[Falcon29]

You seem to be quite affected by his statement. And no, it's just an observation, not some Iranian conspiracy here. Even your reply to his claims proves to the point further. You simply cannot deny the near identity sort of claim you're making compared to the Israelis. I am not saying you're not Palestinian, only to be careful to not to resort to the same claims as they do.

You and your Iranian cult members can shove it where it belongs. I don't need your cult group to tell what or who I am. I'm a Palestinian Sunni Muslim and your cult group is a minority in the Middle East, so remember who you are and respect yourselves.

You're trivialising Traumatic Brain Injury. Please don't make such statements unless you can actually back them up.

Nope, they were all cleared within days and it was an attempt to get disability payments. You realize your country warned them hours ahead of time in order to avoid inflicting casualties too. Don't know why you're so confused.

If you're so insistent on trying to use Iranian claims, then why not provide the full picture (assuming you're aware of it). Iran has stated the revenge for Soleimani is the removal of US from Iraq. This was one of Soleimani's goals. This is Iran's promise. I am not sure what you wanted Iran to do, assassinate Trump? Masscare 100's of their soldiers and start a war?

Where did Iran say that? Post a source. And they have not achieved that, so what's your point?

The rest of your post is pointless. I'm not here to discuss perspectives I'm talking about facts vs reality.

 

[Philosopher]

You and your Iranian cult members can shove it where it belongs. I don't need your cult group to tell what or who I am. I'm a Palestinian Sunni Muslim and your cult group is a minority in the Middle East, so remember who you are and respect yourselves.

Please read comments with full attention. I did not say who you are or not. I was giving you friendly advise with regards to how you're coming across.

Nope, they were all cleared within days and it was an attempt to get disability payments.

They were diagnosed with Traumatic Brain Injuries, not "cleared" from anything. You are posting disinformation.

Troops who suffered traumatic brain injuries in Iranian missile attack set to receive Purple Hearts

Several dozen U.S. troops who suffered traumatic brain injuries during a Jan. 8 Iranian attack on an American military base in Iraq are expected to become Purple Heart recipients.

It is believed that 110 military personnel in the wake of the missile barrage suffered the injury that can cause crippling concussions, but it remains unclear how many will receive the award.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/30/troops-who-suffered-traumatic-brain-injuries-irani/

You realize your country warned them hours ahead of time in order to avoid inflicting casualties too. Don't know why you're so confused.

How does this even address any of my points? It actually emphasises my point that Iran did not want to kill any of their soldiers and start a war.

Where did Iran say that? Post a source.

If you can understand Persian, watch:

And they have not achieved that, so what's your point?

This is not a short term game, why are you expecting everything to be hurried?

The rest of your post is pointless. I'm not here to discuss perspectives I'm talking about facts vs reality.

You have not provided a single fact here. Minus disinformation and Israeliesque conspiracy theories, I have seen little else.

 

[Falcon29]

How does this even address any of my points? It actually emphasises my point that Iran did not want to kill any of their soldiers and start a war.

I don't care about you, I'm talking about your government and it's propaganda in the ME. In front of Western audience they and their fanboys are more reasonable, in front of ME audience hundreds of US soldiers killed and major CIA figure helicopter shot down. Do you get it now.

This is not a short term game, why are you expecting everything to be hurried?

It's not real at all, it's a revolutionary agenda that employs rhetoric against US and Israel for Iran to regain dominance of Arab Muslim world. Has nothing to do against US or Israel.

 

[Philosopher]

I don't care about you, I'm talking about your government and it's propaganda in the ME.

I am not seeing any actual proof of these "propaganda" from you. Your claims have fallen short I am afraid.

In front of Western audience they and their fanboys are more reasonable, in front of ME audience hundreds of US soldiers killed and major CIA figure helicopter shot down. Do you get it now.

Right I see, so basically you wanted Iran to shed the blood of hordes of Americans and start a major war to satisfy your requirements. I suppose it's a great thing nations like Iran are wiser than your so called ME audience, most of whom are either puppets for the US, or dare not even raise their voice against them.

It's not real at all, it's a revolutionary agenda that employs rhetoric against US and Israel for Iran to regain dominance of Arab Muslim world. Has nothing to do against US or Israel.

Take your conspiracy a step further and just say Iran and US/Israel have daily meetings on how to continue to fool the "Arab World" by pretending to be enemies and apparently occasionally killing other for show. The problem with your kind is that you resort to all form of senseless conspiracy theories in order to hide behind it given your own abundant failures.

 

[Mithridates]

It's not real at all, it's a revolutionary agenda that employs rhetoric against US and Israel for Iran to regain dominance of Arab Muslim world. Has nothing to do against US or Israel.

Iran could say Israel is a cool country and US is the boss and become biggest economy of ME and possibly one of heavy weights in Asia and world. we do not need others resources to go up, on the contrary the countries in the region are on our back and slow us down.

 

[Falcon29]

I am not seeing any actual proof of these "propaganda" from you. Your claims have fallen short I am afraid.




Right I see, so basically you wanted Iran to shed the blood of hordes of Americans and start a major war to satisfy your requirements. I suppose it's a great thing nations like Iran are wiser than your so called ME audience, most of whom are either puppets for the US, or dare not even raise their voice against them.

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No, it means your government/state media and social media handles claimed Iran had been responsible for death of a major CIA figure and killed hundreds of troops in the BM strike on the US base in Iraq. In front of Middle Eastern audience they will push such claims and pass it off as the truth.

Iran could say Israel is a cool country and US is the boss and become biggest economy of ME and possibly one of heavy weights in Asia and world. .

No, that's not how things work. You would still face competition on economic level like any other country.

 

[Philosopher]

claimed Iran had been responsible for death of a major CIA figure

And I take it you can prove that this did not happen, right?

and killed hundreds of troops in the BM strike on the US base in Iraq.

Some news articles claimed those numbers, but when I actually listened to the IRGC aerospace commander, he clearly said he believed they did have mortalities, but that they were not intending to kill any soldiers. He never said "hundreds". Did US troops die? Maybe. You or I do not have enough information to make such judgements.

In front of Middle Eastern audience they will push such claims and pass it off as the truth.

Iran was making statement for the entire world, not just this ME audience that you keep talking about. The truth is, US did a major miscalculation by killing Soleimani in Iraq, Iran replied in a very prudent way by telling them they could have massacred 100/1000's of their soldiers if they had intended. Soleimani was famously always referred to as a living martyr, if you knew anything about him you would have known he was seeking martyrdom and he got it. His death came as a shock, yes. But, I never believed for a moment that it would reduce Iran's regional moment, but instead increase it. Iran was never going to start a war over his death. Why? Because only a foolish nation sacrifices their long term goals for some short term revenge shots to satisfy you and people like you. Iran's goals are as I told you. The removal of the US from Iraq and ultimately, from the Middle East.

 

[Falcon29]

And I take it you can prove that this did not happen, right?

Onus is on your media to prove such claims that you claim they aren't making, so here is proof of your gov't's propaganda(not only claiming a Taliban attack but going even further):

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Meanwhile media reports said a top CIA official responsible for the assassination of Iranian Lieutenant General Qassem Soleimani was on the aircraft.

Michael D’Andrea was the top CIA official responsible for the assassination of General Soleimani, the commander of the Quds Force of Iran’s Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC), along with Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis, the second-in-command of Iraq's Popular Mobilization Units (PMU), in a US airstrike in the Iraqi capital Baghdad early this month. “Andrea is the most prominent figure in the US CIA in the Middle East. He has been in charge of operations in Iraq, Iran and Afghanistan,” an unverified media report said.

https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2020/01/28/617316/US-Military-CIA-Afghanistan-Crash-Soleimani
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In case you're wondering, no I do not believe such a claim from your gov't. It's intended for ME audience where media is not well regulated.

Some news articles claimed those numbers, but when I actually listened to the IRGC aerospace commander, he clearly said he believed they did have mortalities, but that they were not intending to kill any soldiers. He never said "hundreds". Did US troops die? Maybe. You or I do not have enough information to make such judgements.

We have all the information we need, no US troops were killed. You can't hide such things in the US.

Iran was making statement for the entire world, not just this ME audience that you keep talking about. The truth is, US did a major miscalculation by killing Soleimani in Iraq, Iran replied in a very prudent way by telling them they could have massacred 100/1000's of their soldiers if they had intended. Soleimani was famously always referred to as a living martyr, if you knew anything about him you would have known he was seeking martyrdom and he got it. His death came as a shock, yes. But, I never believed for a moment that it would reduce Iran's regional moment, but instead increase it. Iran was never going to start a war over his death. Why? Because only a foolish nation sacrifices their long term goals for some short term revenge shots to satisfy you and people like you. Iran's goals are as I told you. The removal of the US from Iraq and ultimately, from the Middle East.

Could've, Should've , Would've, that is all you guys have. The truth is you can't do any such things. You cannot defeat the US in a war or push US troops out of Iraq. Actually you don't even want US troops out of Iraq, Iraq Shia majority gov't wants them to stay and Iraqi gov't is very close to Iran. US presence is helping secure Shia domination of Iraq. Otherwise they would be fighting an insurgency right now had US Coalition not intervened.

Now getting to what you were saying over Iraq, Iranian proxies in Iraq did launch several attacks on US Embassy and forces, most of which fell on Iraqi homes outside the embassy. And only recently did one succeed in killing 3 troops, 2 US and 1 British. Afterwards US did strikes on Iraqi militias and they never fired another rocket since. So you can wait another 10 years or 20 for US forces to withdraw from Iraq as they aren't intended to be there forever, but if they voluntary withdraw, that doesn't mean you 'forced them out'. But knowing your gov't they will take credit regardless.

Otherwise no one said you should have gone to war. We had a different discussion earlier on which you keep changing and trying to imply I wanted you to get into war. I didn't want nothing, and what I want or don't wan't has nothing to do with topic.

 

[Mithridates]

No, that's not how things work. You would still face competition on economic level like any other country.

KSA only exports oil, Qatar only exports gas, turkey gets 30 billion dollars gift a year by it's tourism sector while it's UNESCO heritage sites are 0.75 of ours. you should consider this incomes in a case that we do not do anything other and sit and do nothing while in reality we have major industries. we used to export cars to Ukraine, Russia, Africa and Latin america. we used to build dams and hydro power plants for countries. we are a major steel producer. we have a large cooper reserve. we build gas turbines that are comparable with German Siemens co productions. we are building satellites and launch them to space by our own, we could build and launch for others.
we have the 5th largest STEM graduates in the world. we produce some top notch military equipment, i'm sure they would be very popular in world market.
Iran GDP would be three or four times bigger if we were not under sanction.

 

[Falcon29]

KSA only exports oil, Qatar only exports gas, turkey gets 30 billion dollars gift a year by it's tourism sector while it's UNESCO heritage sites are 0.75 of ours. you should consider this incomes in a case that we do not do anything other and sit and do nothing while in reality we have major industries. we used to export cars to Ukraine, Russia, Africa and Latin america. we used to build dams and hydro power plants for countries. we are a major steel producer. we have a large cooper reserve. we build gas turbines that are comparable with German Siemens co productions. we are building satellites and launch them to space by our own, we could build and launch for others.
we have the 5th largest STEM graduates in the world. we produce some top notch military equipment, i'm sure they would be very popular in world market.
Iran GDP would be three or four times bigger if we were not under sanction.

I don't care about your economy, I am disappointed by your destructive foreign policies in region.

 

[Philosopher]

Onus is on your media to prove such claims that you claim they aren't making, so here is proof of your gov't's propaganda(not only claiming a Taliban attack but going even further):

You're the one claiming it is propaganda, so it's your job to explain to me why. Your entire stance is basically the media did not provide proof? What does that even mean? You wanted pictures of dead bodies? You're being a hypocrite, you want others to talk with proof but not you when you call everything everything propaganda.

In case you're wondering, no I do not believe such a claim from your gov't. It's intended for ME audience where media is not well regulated.

No, instead you conveniently choose to believe the "well regulated" wester media narrative. Just come out and say that instead of masquerading as someone who is after the truth.

We have all the information we need, no US troops were killed. You can't hide such things in the US.

Oh yes, of course the US could not claim deaths were due to something else. You're basically believing what you want to believe. For the record, I am saying they were killed or not, I said we here would not know.

Could've, Should've , Would've, that is all you guys have. The truth is you can't do any such things.

Time will tell.

You cannot defeat the US in a war or push US troops out of Iraq. Actually you don't even want US troops out of Iraq, Iraq Shia majority gov't wants them to stay and Iraqi gov't is very close to Iran. US presence is helping secure Shia domination of Iraq. Otherwise they would be fighting an insurgency right now had US Coalition not intervened.

A new conspiracy theory. Don't forget that Iran was probably behind the Iraq invasion too in order to strength the shia.

Now getting to what you were saying over Iraq, Iranian proxies in Iraq did launch several attacks on US Embassy and forces, most of which fell on Iraqi homes outside the embassy. And only recently did one succeed in killing 3 troops, 2 US and 1 British. Afterwards US did strikes on Iraqi militias and they never fired another rocket since. So you can wait another 10 years or 20 for US forces to withdraw from Iraq as they aren't intended to be there forever, but if they voluntary withdraw, that doesn't mean you 'forced them out'.

It will be clear if they're forced to or not. The Americans do not exactly hide their feelings.

But knowing your gov't they will take credit regardless.

I predict even if the Americans are forced to leave, you will still claim Iran is claiming propaganda victory.

Otherwise no one said you should have gone to war. We had a different discussion earlier on which you keep changing and trying to imply I wanted you to get into war. I didn't want nothing, and what I want or don't wan't has nothing to do with topic.

So then I suggest you refrain from questioning Iran's way of dealing with that incident. The way Iran dealt with it was prudent.

 

[Mithridates]

I don't care about your economy, I am disappointed by your destructive foreign policies in region.

seems like you did care 30 minutes ago and accused us of pursuing imperialistic goals.

 

[Beny Karachun]

And I take it you can prove that this did not happen, right?




Some news articles claimed those numbers, but when I actually listened to the IRGC aerospace commander, he clearly said he believed they did have mortalities, but that they were not intending to kill any soldiers. He never said "hundreds". Did US troops die? Maybe. You or I do not have enough information to make such judgements.



Iran was making statement for the entire world, not just this ME audience that you keep talking about. The truth is, US did a major miscalculation by killing Soleimani in Iraq, Iran replied in a very prudent way by telling them they could have massacred 100/1000's of their soldiers if they had intended. Soleimani was famously always referred to as a living martyr, if you knew anything about him you would have known he was seeking martyrdom and he got it. His death came as a shock, yes. But, I never believed for a moment that it would reduce Iran's regional moment, but instead increase it. Iran was never going to start a war over his death. Why? Because only a foolish nation sacrifices their long term goals for some short term revenge shots to satisfy you and people like you. Iran's goals are as I told you. The removal of the US from Iraq and ultimately, from the Middle East.

Bro 90% of your argument is asking for proof while giving none.