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[Afghanistan]-Mattis is out, and Blackwater is back: ‘We are coming’

It funny to hear Indians and some Pakistanis talk about black water like they are some super soldiers. It's not as If current US deployment didn't have special forces on the ground in Afghanistan. Retired special forces serving in black water are going to do what exactly? Not follow rules of engagement... It's not like the Taliban are bound by any rules. All black water is going to do is kill civilians leading to more heat onto themselves. All black water can do is try to kill civilians in the hopes that they will bow down from being hostile, while that policy has never worked in the history of mankind, and especially in a place like Afghanistan.

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Yep it are mostly granny retired and written off soldiers. Some if not most are scum who got dishonorably discharged. Afghanistan is in for a nightmare. These are basically thug soldiers who have zero regard for anything. We saw it in Iraq. Afghanistan won't be different. They will be killing civilians like sliced cucumbers.
 
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Yep it are mostly granny retired and written off soldiers. Some if not most are are scum who got discharged dishonorably. Afghanistan is in for a nightmare. These are basically thug soldiers who have zero regard for anything. We saw it in Iraq. Afghanistan won't be different. They will be killing civilians like sliced cucumbers.

What do you think it going to happen to them when it comes to the Taliban? Last I heard of them in Iraq, they were dragged in the streets, lit on fire and hung from telephone poles.
 
It funny to hear Indians and some Pakistanis talk about black water like they are some super soldiers. It's not as If current US deployment didn't have special forces on the ground in Afghanistan. Retired special forces serving in black water are going to do what exactly? Not follow rules of engagement... It's not like the Taliban are bound by any rules. All black water is going to do is kill civilians leading to more heat onto themselves. All black water can do is try to kill civilians in the hopes that they will bow down from being hostile, while that policy has never worked in the history of mankind, and especially in a place like Afghanistan.

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Looking at with they did in Syria/Iraq, here is what may happen:

1. Give full support to ISIS, complete with American supplied ATGMs etc. Embed blackwater contractors amongst them.
2. Lure all anti-Pakistan but religious forces such as TTP under this umbrella and establish another ISIS like caliphate.
3. This gives incentive to all sorts of people: those who are on the fringes looking for Islamic Rennaissance within Pakistan, sleeper cells etc.
4. Now start a killing/murdering spree. Hit and run tactics. Create fear and paranoia. Create a situation where people feel they must fight or die. Invoke their survival instincts.
5. At this point you will start seeing mass attacks on Pakistani borders by utter fanatics. Possibly, they will have captured ammo dumps from the Afghan forces whom they miraculously killed. Expect rigged bulldozers, fast and mobile forces, and ATGMs.

They will try to implode Pakistan from within and without. May Allah Help us. Aameen.
 
Hang on, can someone explain what's stopping the Taliban from just marching on Kabul and seizing power?
 
Some people pre maturely started celebrating the withdrawl of 7000 americans soldiers as some kind of victory, without knowing what is going to follow this withdrawl.
 
Mattis is out, and Blackwater is back: ‘We are coming’
By: Tara Copp   3 hours ago

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Blackwater USA took out a full page ad in the January/February 2019 issue of "Recoil" magazine with the company's logo and a message: "We are coming."
Secretary of Defense Jim Mattis is out.

President Donald Trump is reportedly cutting 7,000 U.S. forces from Afghanistan.

This month, in the January/February print issue of the gun and hunting magazine “Recoil," the former contractor security firm Blackwater USA published a full-page ad, in all black with a simple message: “We are coming.”

Is the Afghan war about to be privatized?

If Blackwater returns, it would be the return of a private security contractor that was banned from Iraq, but re-branded and never really went away. By 2016 Blackwater had been re-branded several times and was known at the time as Constellis Group, when it was purchased by the Apollo Holdings Group. Reuters reported earlier this year that Apollo had put Constellis up for sale, but in June the sale was put on hold.

Blackwater’s founder and former CEO Erik Prince has courted President Donald Trump’s administration since he took office with the idea that the now 17-year Afghan War will never be won by a traditional military campaign. Prince has also argued that the logistical footprint required to support that now multi-trillion dollar endeavor has become too burdensome. Over the summer and into this fall Prince has engaged heavily with the media to promote the privatization; particularly as the Trump administration’s new South Asia Strategy, which was crafted with Mattis, passed the one-year mark.

Prince has no connection to the current Constellis group; if Blackwater does return to operations, it is not clear what, if any tie, Prince would have to the endeavor.

Constellis, which had maintained a footprint at Camp Integrity by the Kabul Airport through its previous iteration as “Academi” has leased land at the facility to hold another 800 personnel, Military Times learned.


Here’s the blueprint for Erik Prince’s $5 billion plan to privatize the Afghanistan war
The U.S. has spent $1 trillion in Afghanistan. The Blackwater founder asks, is it time to try something new?

By: Tara Copp
The news of a leaning on a smaller number of privatized forces, instead of a larger U.S. military footprint — and contracted support for U.S. forces that knew few bounds and at times included coffee shops, base exchanges, restaurants, a hockey rink and local vendor shops — may be welcomed by current U.S. military leadership on the ground. That includes former Joint Special Operations Command chief Army Lt. Gen. Scott Miller, a source familiar with Miller’s approach told Military Times. Miller replaced Gen. John Nicholson as the head of all U.S. and NATO forces in Afghanistan in September.

In an previous exclusive interview with Military Times, Prince said he would scrap the NATO mission there and replace the estimated 23,000 forces in country with a force of 6,000 contracted personnel and 2,000 active duty special forces.

The potential privatization of the Afghan War was previously dismissed by the White House, and roundly criticized by Mattis, who saw it as a risk to emplace the nation’s national security goals in the hands of contractors.

“When Americans put their nation’s credibility on the line, privatizing it is probably not a wise idea,” Mattis told reporters in August.

But Mattis is out now, one in a series of moves that has surprised most of the Pentagon.

Drastic change would “be more likely” now, one DOD official said.

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/...-is-out-and-blackwater-is-back-we-are-coming/

@hellfire @Nilgiri @Oldman1 @James Jaevid @Irfan Baloch your views?

Will talk to a retired BW guy I know and get back to you later. This is something of a game changer for the strategy now.
 
US is pushing Afghanistan into Pakistan’s open arms.

Who do you think Afghans are going to ask for help from when Blackwater civilian massacres begin?

Pakistan will be a hero for Afghanistan and a source for peace.

One proper election and strong leader, and the whole cosmos is working in Pakistan’s favor.

This is known as Qudrat Allah.

Islamic Rennaissance within Pakistan

Isn’t that our elected government which wants Riyasat e Madina and Zamana e Khilafat Rashidun?

These kind of rhetoric is very popular in Afghanistan and is winning up PR victories all over the world.
 
Who the heck is going to resupply blackwater with ammo, food e.t.c if they create trouble there for Pakistan.

Look at the map people, they might go in but then it will be open hunting season.

They will not be able to walk out alive after that.

Afghanistan is still a land locked country.

They will die as mercenaries there and no one in the world would shed a tear.

We have the institutional memory of 40+ years doing covert operations there. They don't.
 
US is pushing Afghanistan into Pakistan’s open arms.

Who do you think Afghans are going to ask for help from when Blackwater civilian massacres begin?

Pakistan will be a hero for Afghanistan and a source for peace.

One proper election and strong leader, and the whole cosmos is working in Pakistan’s favor.

This is known as Qudrat Allah.



Isn’t that our elected government which wants Riyasat e Madina and Zamana e Khilafat Rashidun?

These kind of rhetoric is very popular in Afghanistan and is winning up PR victories all over the world.

Transport Corridor he we come Pakistan connections to her Central Asian cousins and Eurasia just got closer just need to patient and wait for a raid of Kabul right on its way as for Blackwater I know Erik Prince could give less a s...t about America imploding cause he is a WASP sell out he will make money from the US Govt and then move somwhere else he actually lives in UAE now
 
US is pushing Afghanistan into Pakistan’s open arms.

Who do you think Afghans are going to ask for help from when Blackwater civilian massacres begin?

Pakistan will be a hero for Afghanistan and a source for peace.

One proper election and strong leader, and the whole cosmos is working in Pakistan’s favor.

This is known as Qudrat Allah.



Isn’t that our elected government which wants Riyasat e Madina and Zamana e Khilafat Rashidun?

These kind of rhetoric is very popular in Afghanistan and is winning up PR victories all over the world.

Only liberal minded Muslims consider Imran Khan an 'Islamic Leader'. The Conservatives see him for the Westernized Liberal that he is. Let me assure you that what we have today in Pakistan is a complete mockery of Islam. This creates a fertile ground for the likes of Blackwater to appeal to rightest sensitivities through appropriate attractors. The presence of TTP is only one manifestation of the underlying conservative displeasure with the status quo.

Thankfully, although the right wing is angry, it isn't stupid. It has seen what happened in Iraq and Syria. Even the Taliban are against ISIS. But then, Blackwater is creative. It will be looking for any way through which it can split Pakistan apart at the seams. There is Baloch nationalism. Sindhi nationalism. PTM. They will stop at nothing. And along with that, you will have pressures from IMF and FATF. And we already know that Nawaz Sharif is ready to destroy the country for personal gains.
 
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