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What do you think the selective service system in the US are for?U.S. abandoned conscript model for recruitment in its armed forces after the Vietnam War, for more professional volunteer model. Conscripts are low-cost alternatives to well-trained (long-term) professionals.
Once again, old man kept blabbing nonsense again. Read my POST. I said by law, everyone is to serve if the govt call upon you, that is no different than majority of the country INCLUDING YOUR OWN government. However in practice, the supply on volunteer is so high in the PLA, that no one is force to people to join the PLA.This is not war time, and I never said that a conscription policy alone make a military 'unprofessional'. There are many militaries that are professional and have conscription policy. The Israelis for one, and Sweden is talking about returning to mandatory military service in '18.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/sweden-proposes-reintroduction-of-compulsory-military-service-1475101834
What make a military truly unprofessional is composed of many things and believe it -- conscription is the least of those things.
Your PLA is unprofessional in the sense that it does not serves the people but the Party. It is deeply corrupt and equally deeply political. The Pentagon does not say: 'Now we have a Republican President, all members must be monitored to see if everyone obey Republican ideals.' Your PLA say that via the political officers class.
No one is forced to serve in the PLA ? Wrong.
http://www.china.org.cn/china/LegislationsForm2001-2010/2011-02/14/content_21916676.htm
The PLA may recruit and offers incentives to desirable individuals, but if the PLA needs to fulfill a quota, anyone can be compelled into service, peace or war time.
Looks like you do not know your country as well as you think.
The PLA is called the "PEOPLE LIBERATION ARMY". If it doesn't serve the people, who does? You are a joke. LOL
That old man @gambit has dementia. You can say one thing and he goes on about someone else random trying to pick any small random flaw to pain a bigger picture to fit his stereotypical view of his limited knowledge. That is the main issue with people with dementia. LOL This practice is in fact common among American old population.You do have a reading comprehension problem. You haven't quoted where I claimed a chaplain is the same as a political officer, because you can't.
Let's quote wiki here, as outside of anecdotes there are few foreign sources on the role of a political officer in the PLA. This is common knowledge for anyone with passing familiarity with the organization of PLA.
"Today the political commissar is largely responsible for administrative tasks such as public relations and counseling, and mainly serves as second-in-command."
He does not have all encompassing jurisdiction. You were told before, that PLA political officers primarily handled people affairs, including some clerical and administrative tasks. You claimed that they inspired fear and loathing among the troops, without any evidence as usual. I told you there tasks were vital, but relatively mundane. As is typical with you, you pressed the point further and insisted that they should be abolished.
Basically, just hot air. I actually did undergo training at Whampoa, and anyone who has undergone training in China would know you are uninformed and full of shit.
Your argument indicates you have little knowledge, let alone understanding of the role of a political officer in the PLA. You like your Hollywood tropes, with a commissar sitting in the back waiting to finger out any dissenter. Reality is much more mundane I assure you.
PDF Chinese are fine. The problem is that you like to cherry pick little facts from the internet about China, and the moment someone actually familiar with the matter comes along, you come out looking like a fool. I'll demonstrate this shortly.
You have no idea what you are talking about.
Here's a rough translation of the Oath of Service in China.
"I am a citizen of the People's Republic of China, in accordance with the law for military service is honorable duty I should, in order to take up the sacred duty of the revolutionary soldier, I declared Oath: love the Chinese Communist Party, love the socialist motherland, love of the Chinese People's Liberation Army, serving the people wholeheartedly. Implement the Party's line, principles, policies, compliance with national laws and regulations, the implementation of the orders, rules and regulations of the army to obey orders. Efforts to learn the military, political, scientific, cultural, and combat ability to care for weaponry, safeguard military secrets, carry forward the fine traditions to participate in the socialist spiritual civilization of intangible cultural courage to fight against the same abuses. Heroic fighting, fear no sacrifice to defend the socialist motherland, safeguard the people's peaceful labor, and in any case never betray the motherland. Above oath, I am determined to fulfill, and never contrary."
As part of our service, we do swear to serve and protect the people, this is stated explicitly during the oath. This is also repeatedly emphasized during indoctrination, by your much maligned political officers. This isn't just idle talk. Contrast the excellent work done by the PLA during the Sichuan earthquake, with the apathetic response to Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans.
Your claim that the PLA serves the party, but not the people, is just a typical ideological rant from an uninformed outsider.
Evacuation of Chinese nationals from Yemen.
http://dailysignal.com/2015/04/14/china-not-america-rescues-its-own-citizens-stuck-in-yemen/
You see, this is the type of mental gymnastics you engage in. Corruption cases in the PLA are "systematic and endemic". Corruption and misconduct in the US military is "isolated criminality". I called you out before for double standards, you haven't learned a thing.
I'm done with you.