Will dethroning Modi return India to the Nehruvian tryst in the near future?

[Vapnope]

Yogi is a threat to BJP and Modi. Modi is radical, but at least he knew his limit and has some constraints. Yogi is radical, ignorant and has no clue what's the limit of his wrong doing.

Modi will kick out Yogi soon.

I agree with your assessment of Modi but don't you think that there are voter of BJP who fully support Yogi and would break off if Modi boots Yogi out?

 

[gulli]

Is this article written by Mungreli lal??

 

[SrNair]

A USEFUL pointer to Narendra Modi’s political quandary lies in the clear chance that his party could be defeated inUttar Pradesh in elections due in March. Given the recent state results (and several earlier ones) the possibility of his defeat has grown. When India’s most populous state changes hands, it could also decide the opposition’s chances of dethroning the prime minister in 2024 just as it critically helped him win power in 2014 and again in 2019.

Excellent chances exist for the script to work against the BJP. UP Chief Minister Yogi Adityanath has made a hash of the Covid-19 handling in the state. Visual images of bodies floating in rivers are too gut-wrenching to dwell on. He has denied charges of callous neglect, naturally, and has threatened to put critics in jail.

The Achilles heel he can’t do much about though is that Hindu farmers of western UP who had led the BJP’s anti-Muslim campaign ahead of the 2014 elections have almost completely deserted the party. In fact, their leaders campaigned against Modi in West Bengal and Assam, and they have threatened to do it again in UP. The chief minister has emerged as a one-trick pony and could try to whip up anti-Muslim mayhem as his best bet. With a growing constituency of upper and backward caste Hindus who voted for him being forced to rethink their preference the communal soufflé may not rise for the BJP again.

Speculation is rife that Modi wants to eject the unpopular Yogi to improve the BJP’s chances but the cost could be prohibitive. The chief minister is notionally a BJP member but doesn’t belong to the RSS stable. He runs his private group of militant Hindu youth. The fear is that Yogi could go Udhav Thackeray’s way by breaking away from the BJP. Although he doesn’t command a fraction of Thackeray’s political sway he could yet further damage the BJP and Modi’s 2024 prospects if alienated.



There is a question, however, snapping at the heels of the BJP’s likely embarrassment in Uttar Pradesh. Would the ensuing alternative to Modi put India back on the path of an equanimous democracy, the only way the country of hyper-economic and social disparities can become cohesive and respected in the world again — not in the military sense of imported hardware and expedient jingoism, but in an all-round bonding of its varied people that would less biliously address domestic differences from Kashmir to Nagaland and work sincerely for a more agreeable neighbourhood? The truthful answer is, no, dethroning Modi may not return India to the Nehruvian tryst in the near future. But it remains a vital condition for the country to move in that very desirable direction.

The current trend in different parts of the world, however, indicates that the defeat of a right-wing demagogue does not necessary lead to the sugar candy mountain for the people, to borrow a phrase from Orwell. Two of Modi’s most egregious right-wing mates are down but not necessarily out — Donald Trump in the US and Benjamin Netanyahu in Israel. Both were accused of grossly mishandling the Covid-19 outbreak in their countries, among other derelictions, a charge that has found increasing traction against Modi. Yet, even if they won’t return to power by the popular route, their right-wing constituencies are here to stay for as far in the future as one can see.

The coalition in Israel that has come together with the sole purpose of keeping Netanyahu out, and to probably make him face criminal charges pending before the courts, may achieve this laudable goal in the end. But who can deny that it is a union led by rabid right-wingers who have more in common with Netanyahu’s worldview than with their left-liberal supporters, if at all Israeli politicians can be of left-liberal hue. As the party of Israeli Arabs is also supporting the coalition of pro-settlers leadership, the event finds a familiar echo in the Indian context.

We are approaching the 46th year of Indira Gandhi’s emergency she declared on June 26, 1975. Who were its supporters and who its opponents? The pro-Soviet communists supported the move in concert with the right-wing Shiv Sena that backed her to the hilt. A similarly opportunistic left-right combination worked for the opponents of the emergency. Ranged against Mrs Gandhi were the pro-China communists, the socialists, the Jamaat-i-Islami, the Hindu revivalist Jana Sangh and its mentor, the RSS.

Though the battle lines have changed considerably, the penchant for opportunism among political parties has remained intact. Will Congress, the only party with an India-wide footprint, play ball with the opposition? Its political choices have not yielded great results so far, not for the party and not for the opposition. The left has also passed blind self-love as political strategy, for example, in West Bengal. However, the larger opposition can ignore it without seriously damaging its cohesion. After the drubbing in recent polls, the Congress and the left have an opportunity to unconditionally support local groups in UP and retrieve their lost appeal.

There’s some good news for genuine democracy though. Should there be a change in Brazil, where Modi’s friend Jair Bolsonaro appears to be on a sticky wicket, his potential challenger Lula da Silva could defeat him next year. The supreme court has given Lula a clean chit ahead of the 2022 presidential polls. Brazil’s economic and health conditions look primed to canvass against Bolsonaro. Polls give Lula 50 per cent of the vote compared to Bolsonaro’s 38pc. Will Bolsonaro become the first Brazilian president to be denied a second term? He has always praised the politicised anti-left military that ruled Brazil from 1964 to 1985. Bolsonaro has fired his defence minister and three military heads suddenly, and people suspect his intentions, as they do right-wing demagogues. They remain sadly well entrenched, often on both sides of the equation.

The writer is Dawn’s correspondent in Delhi.

Can the right be dislodged?

Though the battle lines have changed considerably, the penchant for opportunism among political parties has remained intact.

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Moron dont have any idea about the dynamics in India and also UP.
The unique situation in India is that opposition more or less work as a campaigners of ruiling party.
It is opposition inability to do any thing that is advantage to Modi .

Entire opposition and former ruiling elites are in Lutyen circle and corrupt to core
And they had a lots of shit job they did earlier.
Narendra Modi ascension in 2014 was a tectonic shift.For the first time in history of India an outsider from Lutyen echleons captured the top.
A complete outsider who is ruthless in dealing corrupt ,enemies and clever to deal anykind of threats .He had proved his mettle in purging the Congress effort to crucify him for 2002 riots and fake encounters.

After ascension most probably he got the details of dirty works of previous govt.And possibly never ending possibilities of black mailing

And in UP Yogi is still popular , he is not perfect but still a better administrator very suitable for treachorus politics of UP.
And those who dont like Yogi still like Modi.

Even the recent second wave of handling was bad .But still opposition cant do anything because of their actions during their time

I agree with your assessment of Modi but don't you think that there are voter of BJP who fully support Yogi and would break off if Modi boots Yogi out?

Its not the Modi or Yogi .
Its the RSS that take care of rogue elements .
And Yogi is not a match to Modi .Chain of command in BJP is perfect .All of them has to answer the RSS also.

 

[SrNair]

You are right about it. Nehru's ideas or anyone else for that matter from that era are not relevant to present day problems. The nations make decisions according to their current day problems with current day solutions.

You are also right about the absence of an opposition leader who can outweigh modi. Just a question, do you think Yogi can be a PM after Modi?

No he wont .
Just like the Winston Churchil was suitable for Britian during WW2.
Yogi is suitable for the politics and issues in UP.
UP only.
Because of the mess created by previous administrations.That doesnt mean he will be acceptable in entire India .It is the middle class and ordinary people that decides who should be in power.And on the top of that from BJP if anyone want to become anything they have to be scrutinized by RSS again looped by eminent retired,IAS,IPS, IFS ,scholars, scientists,administrators etc .
Most probably none of them will support .In fact ministers like Nitin Gadkari,Piyush Goel even Amit Shah has more chance .Even if that is the case RSS need to support also .
Nitin Gadkari is most possible option .

 

[vi-va]

I agree with your assessment of Modi but don't you think that there are voter of BJP who fully support Yogi and would break off if Modi boots Yogi out?

It will fire back Modi, sure. It's about cost/benefit.

Modi need Hindutva, but Modi's ambition is not Hindutva. Hindutva is a tool for him.

Yogi is Hindutva, Hindutva is his goal.

Modi need Yogi on leash, it seems to me that Yogi is too dangerous to be controlled.

Modi is cunning politicians and very cold blood. I bet Modi will kick him out when Modi still can. Otherwise Yogi will push Hindutva to the extent that may create too much trouble for Modi and BJP.

Hitler is nobody when he was PM, the generals like Gustav despised him. Then Hitler rise, win the popular support that no one dare to challenge him.

Modi definitely doesn't need Yogi, he is unleashed.

 

[Surya 1]

Modi and Shah together have erased nehruvian style of polity from the grassroot. It cannot be river now. Congress is not losing the election but they are erased from the grassroot, Politics and from the mind of people. It is a finished party and finished ideology now. It has done a lots of harm to the nation and weekend it by suppressing the nationalism and Hinduism which is the soul of this Nation and culture. People are so angry with the congress that they are in no mood to spare them. Congress is getting weaker and weaker day by day. In last election, it could not open an account in 17 states of India. so it did not loose but it was erased. This is the treatmrnt they deserve for their sins.

 

[SABRE]

eh ?

Yogi is NOT unpopular. He is viewed as an effective administrator, and Modi sure as hell doesn't want to eject him. Where is Jawed sahab getting his info ?

Yogi sure as hell isn't breaking away from the the BJP either.

Israeli US and Brazilian politics have very different dynamics than India.

lol at these liberals and their dreams, a return to Nehruvianism LOL (Nehru wasn't all bad, but that thinking is past it's shelf life)

Modi isn't going anywhere, at least not until we have a credible opposition with a real leader. Raul Ghandy and the congress are neither.

In many ways, the sentence in bold red is the reason why Pakistan was created. Nehru's idea of secular India was appealing but the leadership of the provinces that partitioned from India and that of the Muslim League knew it came with a "shelf life."

Electoral politics is a game of popularity. If/When Modi feels that Yogi's popularity is exceeding his popularity he is likely to adopt cutthroat attitude with him. In the end it could be a bout between a great evil and a greater evil. Whatever the case may be, India's domestic politics should not be of Pakistan's concern unless it threatens a spillover.

 

[Pappa Alpha]

I hope modi and his clique rule india for another 20 years at least. Hopefully much more.

Assuming India will have 20 years under Modi

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Assuming India will have 20 years under Modi

I hope they do. He is our manchurian candidate.

 

[Jobless Jack]

I hope modi and his clique rule india for another 20 years at least. Hopefully much more.

As long as these chaddi's dont start a nuclear war with China then ok...

 

[Markandeya]

yaar, Modi is a LOT more than just Hindutva.. kab samjho ge ?

No, Modi doesn't say a word against her ever. she's our Iron Lady who chop chop the east and west Paxtan.

We just don't like her for adding the word socialist during emergency to our constitution.

She also added Secular in 1977

 

[-=virus=-]

But India media blame Indira Gandhi a lot.

If India has 50% of China socialism spirit, India won't be like the mess today.

Chinese totalitarianism spirit, you mean. Democracy is a weakness too. I can only imagine you Chinese laughing your rear ends off watching our opposition elected reps busy calling our PM a fascist etc.. sigh.

You are right about it. Nehru's ideas or anyone else for that matter from that era are not relevant to present day problems. The nations make decisions according to their current day problems with current day solutions.

You are also right about the absence of an opposition leader who can outweigh modi. Just a question, do you think Yogi can be a PM after Modi?

It's a much different world indeed. Nehru cops too much hate from the right, really not needed but such is politics.

Na, Yogi has no chance at national leadership, zero.

There's more than enough smart people in India who could give Modi a run for his money but the thing is they need the congress platform, the only other pan India party apart from the BJP. If only the Ghandys and their entitled dumb brat Raul would step aside.

Apart from that, the best they can hope for would be a weak coalition of all non NDA parties.. weak because apart from anti Modi they won't have anything in common, differing ideologies and regional priorities.

Yeah, BJP isn't going anywhere. Which is fine by me, I like a lot of what they've done and hope for more. UCC etc.

In many ways, the sentence in bold red is the reason why Pakistan was created. Nehru's idea of secular India was appealing but the leadership of the provinces that partitioned from India and that of the Muslim League knew it came with a "shelf life."

Electoral politics is a game of popularity. If/When Modi feels that Yogi's popularity is exceeding his popularity he is likely to adopt cutthroat attitude with him. In the end it could be a bout between a great evil and a greater evil. Whatever the case may be, India's domestic politics should not be of Pakistan's concern unless it threatens a spillover.

Maybe, but that's all in the past. Both countries have been forging their own path forward since.

Domestic Indian politics is not something that should worry Pakistan in terms of a spillover. It's spicy and fun to watch but apart from that not a concern to Pakistan.

She also added Secular in 1977

yeah that too...

 

[-=virus=-]

also @Vapnope I know nothing about Tamil Nadu politics but their finance guy, Palanivel Thiagarajan is highly educated and speaks a good game, very articulate guy.. no idea what their ideology etc is though. Look him up, impressive guy.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

As long as these chaddi's dont start a nuclear war with China then ok...

They wouldn't dare.

 

[Jackdaws]

Modi will lose UP. They know the reality on the ground and are running helter skelter. The fact that almost 6 decades after his death, buffoon Modi still needs to diss Nehru shows India's Nehruvian roots. Do Americans talk about Eisenhower today? Or the Brits about the politics of Attlee? It's laughable that the illiterate Modi tries so hard to come across as a statesman but comes across as a complete idiot.