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The F-35 isn’t just better than its predecessors; it’s revolutionizing the way the military thinks about fighter aircraft.

To understand just how groundbreaking the F-35 is, you need to think of the aircraft the way you do about the iPhone, Marine Corps Lt. Col. David Berke, the first operational F-35B (the Marine Corps variant) pilot, told Aviation Week’s Check 6 podcast Saturday.

Berke compared the introduction of the F-35 to the introduction of the first iPhone by Steve Jobs. The iPhone single-handedly redefined what we expect our cell phones to do. In turn, the F-35’s capabilities are redefining what a fighter aircraft is expected to do. Like the iPhone, the F-35’s introduction is disruptive, and Berke claims we are only on the cusp of discovering what it might be able to do in the future.

Berke outlined three major differences that put the F-35, and other fifth-generation aircraft (like the F-22), in a league of their own.

“I think the three things that stand out that I would say are the biggest differentiators is, obviously, fifth-gen platforms are low-observable,” said Berke. “That’s a unique quality, it’s important.”

“Low-observable” is the military term for stealth technology, which uses special designs, materials and countermeasures to make an aircraft effectively invisible to radar. The F-35 and the F-22, the U.S. military’s other fifth-gen fighter, were both designed to be low-observable from the start.

“It’s a characteristic that’s absolutely a requirement,” said Berke.

That’s because the modern battlefield requires more than ever from fighter aircraft, while also presenting an increased threat.

The second major advantage of the F-35 is what is known as the sensor-fusion engine. This revolutionary system creates a single integrated picture from all the aircraft’s sensors for the pilot, fills in missing data with various sensors and has the ability to share the information with other fighter aircraft and anyone else tapped into the F-35’s network.

F-35 manufacturer Lockheed-Martin offered the following example as to why to the sensor-fusion engine is a crucial addition in a white paper:

An enemy pilot effectively neutralizes sensor A from one F-35 in a formation of several. The likelihood that enemy will be able to do the same to another F-35 in the same formation is slim to none.

It is extremely difficult for the enemy to defeat multiple sensors on multiple F-35s simultaneously.

Because the sensors between the F-35s are fused, the pilot in aircraft #1 can simply tap in to aircraft #2’s sensor suite.

The ability to share information to other military platforms is the third major advantage, Berke said. Not only can an F-35 share with other aircraft, it can also disseminate to anyone integrated into its network, such as Navy ships. He explained that the F-35’s pilot display is almost like watching a baseball game, with multiple players all engaged in the game. The F-35 improves the experience by allowing a pilot to zoom in to what’s happening at second base, for example.

“Those three qualities don’t exist in a fourth-gen platform,” said Berke.

Berke would know, as he has also flown some of the most famous fourth-generation fighter aircraft, including the F-18 and F-16.

The F-35’s capabilities are forcing pilots to completely redefine their thinking. Whereas other fighters were standalone platforms, the F-35’s integrated network forces a pilot to think about where he or she can operate most efficiently in the battle space for both themselves and those to whom they are disseminating information. This means the F-35 can also perform multiple mission functions in real-time, engaging in a bombing run at one point and then transitioning to an information gathering role shortly thereafter.

The fighter’s remarkable capabilities have already made it a favorite among pilots. In a survey of 31 fighter pilots, the Heritage Foundation’s J.V. Venable found that 100 percent said they would prefer it in “beyond-visual-range situations,” while 80 percent said they would prefer in a dogfight.

The survey results should come as no surprise, as the F-35 made an impressive debut at a recent Air Force Red Flag training scenario, where it put up a 20-to-1 kill ratio, according to Air Force Gen. Jerry Harris.

“The kill ratio will grow even higher once the tactics for the new jet are refined, and F-35 pilots get more time in the air to master those tactics,” Venable, himself a former Air Force fighter pilot, told The Daily Caller News Foundation.

What makes the F-35 most like the iPhone is its user potential. Berke explained that the original iPhone was branded as an Mp3 player, cell phone and internet device, but developers have now made it so much more. Similarly, now that F-35 operators have their hands on the aircraft, they are likely to continue to develop its capabilities, according to Berke.

“The F-35, it’s light years beyond anything we already have,” said Berke. “The only way I know that is I flew F-18s, F-16s, F-22s and F-35s operationally for 23 years, that’s how I know that.”

http://dailycaller.com/2017/03/13/why-the-f-35-is-the-iphone-of-fighter-aircraft/
 
The F-35 isn’t just better than its predecessors; it’s revolutionizing the way the military thinks about fighter aircraft.

To understand just how groundbreaking the F-35 is, you need to think of the aircraft the way you do about the iPhone, Marine Corps Lt. Col. David Berke, the first operational F-35B (the Marine Corps variant) pilot, told Aviation Week’s Check 6 podcast Saturday.

Berke compared the introduction of the F-35 to the introduction of the first iPhone by Steve Jobs. The iPhone single-handedly redefined what we expect our cell phones to do. In turn, the F-35’s capabilities are redefining what a fighter aircraft is expected to do. Like the iPhone, the F-35’s introduction is disruptive, and Berke claims we are only on the cusp of discovering what it might be able to do in the future.

Berke outlined three major differences that put the F-35, and other fifth-generation aircraft (like the F-22), in a league of their own.

“I think the three things that stand out that I would say are the biggest differentiators is, obviously, fifth-gen platforms are low-observable,” said Berke. “That’s a unique quality, it’s important.”

“Low-observable” is the military term for stealth technology, which uses special designs, materials and countermeasures to make an aircraft effectively invisible to radar. The F-35 and the F-22, the U.S. military’s other fifth-gen fighter, were both designed to be low-observable from the start.

“It’s a characteristic that’s absolutely a requirement,” said Berke.

That’s because the modern battlefield requires more than ever from fighter aircraft, while also presenting an increased threat.

The second major advantage of the F-35 is what is known as the sensor-fusion engine. This revolutionary system creates a single integrated picture from all the aircraft’s sensors for the pilot, fills in missing data with various sensors and has the ability to share the information with other fighter aircraft and anyone else tapped into the F-35’s network.

F-35 manufacturer Lockheed-Martin offered the following example as to why to the sensor-fusion engine is a crucial addition in a white paper:

An enemy pilot effectively neutralizes sensor A from one F-35 in a formation of several. The likelihood that enemy will be able to do the same to another F-35 in the same formation is slim to none.

It is extremely difficult for the enemy to defeat multiple sensors on multiple F-35s simultaneously.

Because the sensors between the F-35s are fused, the pilot in aircraft #1 can simply tap in to aircraft #2’s sensor suite.

The ability to share information to other military platforms is the third major advantage, Berke said. Not only can an F-35 share with other aircraft, it can also disseminate to anyone integrated into its network, such as Navy ships. He explained that the F-35’s pilot display is almost like watching a baseball game, with multiple players all engaged in the game. The F-35 improves the experience by allowing a pilot to zoom in to what’s happening at second base, for example.

“Those three qualities don’t exist in a fourth-gen platform,” said Berke.

Berke would know, as he has also flown some of the most famous fourth-generation fighter aircraft, including the F-18 and F-16.

The F-35’s capabilities are forcing pilots to completely redefine their thinking. Whereas other fighters were standalone platforms, the F-35’s integrated network forces a pilot to think about where he or she can operate most efficiently in the battle space for both themselves and those to whom they are disseminating information. This means the F-35 can also perform multiple mission functions in real-time, engaging in a bombing run at one point and then transitioning to an information gathering role shortly thereafter.

The fighter’s remarkable capabilities have already made it a favorite among pilots. In a survey of 31 fighter pilots, the Heritage Foundation’s J.V. Venable found that 100 percent said they would prefer it in “beyond-visual-range situations,” while 80 percent said they would prefer in a dogfight.

The survey results should come as no surprise, as the F-35 made an impressive debut at a recent Air Force Red Flag training scenario, where it put up a 20-to-1 kill ratio, according to Air Force Gen. Jerry Harris.

“The kill ratio will grow even higher once the tactics for the new jet are refined, and F-35 pilots get more time in the air to master those tactics,” Venable, himself a former Air Force fighter pilot, told The Daily Caller News Foundation.

What makes the F-35 most like the iPhone is its user potential. Berke explained that the original iPhone was branded as an Mp3 player, cell phone and internet device, but developers have now made it so much more. Similarly, now that F-35 operators have their hands on the aircraft, they are likely to continue to develop its capabilities, according to Berke.

“The F-35, it’s light years beyond anything we already have,” said Berke. “The only way I know that is I flew F-18s, F-16s, F-22s and F-35s operationally for 23 years, that’s how I know that.”

http://dailycaller.com/2017/03/13/why-the-f-35-is-the-iphone-of-fighter-aircraft/

Maybe he should have flown GRIPEN, which has both sensor fusion and information sharing using the TIDLS data link.
Maybe the F-35 is the Samsung of the fighter market?
 
LOL The author picked a wrong fone to brag about F-35 as the fone is popularly known as I-crap :lol: and its fans and users as I-sheeps.:haha: @Mentee
It's not compatible with the domestic system just like the f16's . You'll have to empty your wallet every time you get some new upgrades -------- no plug n play option, no approval from mentee! :mad:
 
I see the success of the F-35 is already making some members here uncomfortable. An with a kill-loss ratio of 20-1 at the recent Red Flag exercise, it's easy to see why.
 
I see the success of the F-35 is already making some members here uncomfortable. An with a kill-loss ratio of 20-1 at the recent Red Flag exercise, it's easy to see why.

Were not most of these kills done by the F-22s?

There is no doubt that the F-35 will be able to perform a role in the USAF,
but if it be successful in A2A against top of the line adversaries will not be known
until they meet on the battlefield, or a Su-35 or PAK-FA is captured and studied.

Cheap IRST equipped stealthy drones datalinked with missile platforms might reduce
kill ratios a lot.
 
There is no doubt that the F-35 will be able to perform a role in the USAF,
but if it be successful in A2A against top of the line adversaries will not be known
until they meet on the battlefield, or a Su-35 or PAK-FA is captured and studied.

The X vs. Y debates miss the point. The F-35 will never enter the fight alone and it will never not be connected to other US or allied platforms. That's why comparing the F-35 vis-a-vis another plane is pointless. Sure, you could say that one plane is technically "better" than another plane but at the end of the day if you don't put that into the context of your entire network or system, none of that really matters.

The Network vs. Network discussions contain the real questions we should be asking

I see the success of the F-35 is already making some members here uncomfortable. An with a kill-loss ratio of 20-1 at the recent Red Flag exercise, it's easy to see why.

Even that 20-1 ratio was achieved without refined tactics, no cooperative EW, against the most advanced IADS and with the most aggressors in red flag history IIRC. Truly impressive.
 
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It's actually a perfect analogy.

Since Iphones are also considered to be overpriced pieces of junk. :P
I dont mean to disrespect any product or anyone.
But 5 MP of i phone takes a better picture than a 13 MP lenova and i am not kidding.
If you have used Iphone i am sure you will know that,that just camera part.
 
I dont mean to disrespect any product or anyone.
But 5 MP of i phone takes a better picture than a 13 MP lenova and i am not kidding.
If you have used Iphone i am sure you will know that,that just camera part.

Then how come out of the top 5 smartphone companies in India, 4 of them are Chinese, and 1 is Korean (Samsung)?

No sign of Apple.

So I guess your countrymen disagree with you. :P
 
Then how come out of the top 5 smartphone companies in India, 4 of them are Chinese, and 1 is Korean (Samsung)?

No sign of Apple.

So I guess your countrymen disagree with you. :P
ok,so in India more people use non smart phones than people using smartphones ,does that mean non smartphones are better than smart phones.
 
ok,so in India more people use non smart phones than people using smartphones ,does that mean non smartphones are better than smart phones.

You have lost your ability to argue with logic. :lol:

Smartphones and Feature phones are two different types of products, for two different types of customers. We are talking about sales of Smartphones, competition between different smartphone brands.

But I think you know that already. What you are doing here is supporting Apple because it is an American brand, and India sold their sovereignty to America so you can't do anything else.
 
LOL The author picked a wrong fone to brag about F-35 as the fone is popularly known as I-crap :lol: and its fans and users as I-sheeps.:haha: @Mentee

how about you roll back more than 10 years, when Iphone first came out, it was revolutionary and led to the downfall of traditional phone maker Nokia.
 

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