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Why Imran Khan's removal can lay the foundation for the fragmentation of Pakistan.

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This is not an exageration but an eventuality that could very well happen. I have come to the conclusion not only because IK is the only national leader we have at the moment and Maryum and Bilalwal are restricted in support within their provinces but there is a history to this in our country.

Lets go back to the election between Fatima Jinnah and Ayub Khan. Fatima Jinnah was perhaps the only politician from West Pakistan having any traction in East Pakistan. Her loss and the subsiquent rigging allegations paved the way for Awami League to exploit the sentiments of Bengali youth at the time and appeal to them that their os no one in West Pakistan capable of looking after their interests.

Fatima Jinnah's loss and the violence there-after also left a deep impact on Karachi politics and that memory was exploited by the likes of MQM 2 decades later.

Now coming back to the present, IKs primary support base is KPK. Pakistan especially KPK is experiencing a youth bulge. If IK is removed, do you see any other politician from Punjab who can connect with the youth there. Maryum has already shown her Punjabi Nationalist tendencies and Bilawal is a lost cause.

PTM might have fizzled out but it is clear that if IK is removed from the scene, those young bloods who are looking for a cause might find someone else who they connect with more on a personal level. Especially if the feeling is that IKs removal is the collusion of powerful interests who keep backing a Regional Punjab-based party despite repeated instigations.
 
Just make use of the EVM and so no one can fiddle with the results and then respect the country mandate. Every thing will fall into its place if we follow the law, we all have heard these here say stories before and todays Pakistan is not of yesterday's year country.
 
IK support base has increased and yes, Imran Khan at one side and rest bunch of corrupt politico feudalcracy, jui religious exploiters on other side.
Imran Khan is phenomenon like Bhutto with the difference IK has maintained his effect and popularity and his factor is the single most powerful factor after the creation of Pakistan.
One thing we know about IK that he is not going to be backed down.
HE WILL COME BACK STRONGER
in any case.
 
Chill the f out son

If our guy isn't winning doesn't mean one starts going around calling it a national security threat or please daddy interfere

This may be a rant but as I mentioned in the post there is historical precedence.

Lets say IK was not at all in the political landscape, do you think PTM would have just been limited to Waziristan as it is now.

PTM is such a dud in other parts of KPK because Imran Khan connected more with the youth there than Pashteen.

Apart from IK, there is no one who has that connection. Plus KPK is not Punjab, where election time its Biradari first. KPK has wave elections.

I woulf add that I am not talking now. I am talking about a scenario a decade or two decades from now.

Fatima Jinnah lost in 1962, Awami League won in 1971.
 
Fazlandu is gonna secede and merge KPK into Afghanistan.

Billo is gonna make Sindhudesh.

Punjab will become landlocked and will have to merge into India as a prior invasion by India would be successful.

Balochistan will become independent and Abu Dhabi will take over.

Army will keep licking PDM until all DHAs are lost. Until then it'll be too late.
 
In my opinion, 90% probability is that IK is going out of power, for good; though he would, most probably, not discontinue his political struggle.
 
This is not an exageration but an eventuality that could very well happen. I have come to the conclusion not only because IK is the only national leader we have at the moment and Maryum and Bilalwal are restricted in support within their provinces but there is a history to this in our country.

Lets go back to the election between Fatima Jinnah and Ayub Khan. Fatima Jinnah was perhaps the only politician from West Pakistan having any traction in East Pakistan. Her loss and the subsiquent rigging allegations paved the way for Awami League to exploit the sentiments of Bengali youth at the time and appeal to them that their os no one in West Pakistan capable of looking after their interests.

Fatima Jinnah's loss and the violence there-after also left a deep impact on Karachi politics and that memory was exploited by the likes of MQM 2 decades later.

Now coming back to the present, IKs primary support base is KPK. Pakistan especially KPK is experiencing a youth bulge. If IK is removed, do you see any other politician from Punjab who can connect with the youth there. Maryum has already shown her Punjabi Nationalist tendencies and Bilawal is a lost cause.

PTM might have fizzled out but it is clear that if IK is removed from the scene, those young bloods who are looking for a cause might find someone else who they connect with more on a personal level. Especially if the feeling is that IKs removal is the collusion of powerful interests who keep backing a Regional Punjab-based party despite repeated instigations.
Kuch nahin hoga, chill out.

Pak army may be incompetent, but they are not incompetent enough for pak to collapse. Unless, ofcourse, there is some civil war (as unlikely as the sun rising in the west).
 
Kuch nahin hoga, chill out.

Pak army may be incompetent, but they are not incompetent enough for pak to collapse. Unless, ofcourse, there is some civil war (as unlikely as the sun rising in the west).
If IK loses, Pak army is either the most incompetent, or corrupt institute.
 
Chill the f out son

If our guy isn't winning doesn't mean one starts going around calling it a national security threat or please daddy interfere
Nah, it's a valid theory

This is more than just one party losing against another, it has a lot of consequential impact than just who's in power, and if we are in for more corruption.
 
Game is big and well designed
This is a new beginning of a restart of the country..
I dont think establishment can be this dumb to shoot in the foot, they have history with these crooks, to give country in the hands of these thugs again. although we have no doubt pakistani establishment has all the potentials to do self harm but going that sort of length I don't think this is the case. Imagine, bajwa has personal history with NS. Is he that dumb that dont know the fact he will be the 1st one they going to come after?

Last 15 years of isolation humiliation accusations conspiracies and damaged this mafia done to this country, its not quite understandable or logical that boots going to allow them back again to sit on their own head.

On the other hand despite all odds in last three years establishment become more powerful then ever. They gained country trust restore their damaged image on world stage.

They saw things not moving fast towards the goals or where they want to push, no reforms happening judges and other mafias are still out of control even become more powerful then ever.

With new power blocks emerging less dependency on west they saw a window to laure all culprits in the trap. because the way things were moving it could years to get where they wanted to be or its quite understandable they may be losing patience.

When big powers have their own problems they really don't care who is in power in Pakistan.

To bring the X factor in to the play chaos is must and all the ingredients are in the play now.

IK has options either he let this all go and hand over everything he worked far, or he take everything away with him bring the whole system down..

establishment wants few things fixed they are eyeing on presidential system for years.

Get rid of 18th amendments etc and list goes on.

who is pushing opposition towards isb? its going to be a head-on street fight in isb. A perfact situation for Mere Hum watno or X- Factor.

Ik won't just hand them over or go home quietly, can not even tell to his party as this will make them think what we will get out of it but I think trump card is to dig the pitch so no one can play again.

Even if he has to go to prison for some time he will negotiate for reforms new govt terms. Where crooks will negotiate a safe passage to live a luxury life on whatever they have looted over the years.

let's see if this a genius plan or a dumb plan either way its all seems scripted planers do plan and on the day it can go either way.
 
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Oh ffs, you imran khan fanboys/fangirls act like hes some saviour who did some godly work in his govt. The truth is imran khan is no different than anyone else - corrupt and incompetent cabinet, pathetic foreign and economic policy, boot polishing of establishment and greed for power and seat which means having zero principles. Hes all the same. Nothing will happen when he goes.
 

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