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Here's an interesting perspective in the case of a total nuclear war in which every single nuclear power launches every single of their weapons. Would like to know your opinions by making useful comments. If you disagree then give reasons without being rude or disrepectful. Flaming helps no one and is a waste of time for both the giver and receiver. Also this is not a 'who's better than who' thread, rather should spark intelligent discussion. Enough said, here it is:
WHY CHINA/CHINESE FEAR NO ONE !!!
The Chinese people and their civilization is THE world's oldest civilization, stretching back over 10,000 years. No other civilization comes even close, not the ancient Egyptians (7,000 yrs) nor ancient Hindus (8,000 yrs). It is this, coupled with our immensely large population (and their inter-married descendents) spread over the entire globe that garners the Sino Civilization the most unique position.
It is from this self-understanding that gives Chinese their unique world view. We are proud but not arrogant. We are intelligent but humble. We are enterprising yet still strongly value family and community.
That is why Russia and USA's threats of 'Nuking China' in the last century was only a joke, since back then China was much more rural and Russia + USA combined nukes could only take out a small % of population. The retaliation of HUNDREDS of MILLIONS of Chinese (not to mention overseas Chinese) and OTHER ASIANS, AFRICANS, ARABS, NATIVES would have wiped them out. So the USA/Russia/UK/France/Germany/Japan never could take on the DRAGON.
That's why they say, 'Once you wake up the Dragon, the World will change (for the better)'.
Now, China is 30% urbanized in large cities. If you consider that many of China's small towns are equivalent to tier-II Euro cities, then you can say China is 40% urbanized. China has the 2nd strike capability (as does USA, Russia) to level the planet.
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Nations with Nukes are:
Class I (total world annilation capability):
USA > Russia > China
Class II (continental annilation with spillover):
Japan > France > Israel > India > Pakistan > UK > Germany
Class II (regional annilation with some trans-continental capability):
Japan > DPRK > Iran
* Note that Japan can easily move to Class I ahead of China if it converts spent reprocessed fuel to nukes. Japan can be classified as Class II if we consider they have a secret nuke program operation without the US knowing (which is difficult).
* Also ROK may also have a secret nuke program, same as Germany and UK. Ukraine and former USSR states may also have retained nukes. Not to mention the black market underground trade of WMD may give powerful mafias nuke capability.
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The nations that have 'power projection' are:
Class A (trans-continental):
USA > China > Russia > Japan > France > ROK > UK
Class B (continental):
India > Pakistan > Brazil > DPRK > Iran
Class C (regional):
the rest of the small nations
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Nations that have best survivability of Total World Nuke Destruction (TWND):
Class One (more than 70% survive):
India > Least developed sparsely populated African and Americas
Class Two (more than 50% survive):
China > Least developed Asians and Arabs
Class Three (more than 30% survive):
Least developed Euros
* Surviving the immediately fallout of a total world nuclear war (in which every single nuclear state goes all out!) is one thing. REBUILDING THE NATION AND PEOPLE DEPENDS ON: people's will, remaining infrastructure, cultural strength, language pervasiveness, traditional heritage, religion, etc.
Of this, older civilizations have a more stronger grounding. Thus centuries later Sino Civilization will be restored to her former glory. Civilizations with small population will integrate with the domination ones. This is not to say localized traditions/cultures/civilzations will die out - on the contrary, those in sparsely located ares will THRIVE.
We all will all die sooner or later, so with a TWND most of us will die sooner. But human civilization will be rebuilt on the will and efforts of the remaining survivors. Thus, whatever may happen the world will continue to survive.
WHY CHINA/CHINESE FEAR NO ONE !!!
The Chinese people and their civilization is THE world's oldest civilization, stretching back over 10,000 years. No other civilization comes even close, not the ancient Egyptians (7,000 yrs) nor ancient Hindus (8,000 yrs). It is this, coupled with our immensely large population (and their inter-married descendents) spread over the entire globe that garners the Sino Civilization the most unique position.
It is from this self-understanding that gives Chinese their unique world view. We are proud but not arrogant. We are intelligent but humble. We are enterprising yet still strongly value family and community.
That is why Russia and USA's threats of 'Nuking China' in the last century was only a joke, since back then China was much more rural and Russia + USA combined nukes could only take out a small % of population. The retaliation of HUNDREDS of MILLIONS of Chinese (not to mention overseas Chinese) and OTHER ASIANS, AFRICANS, ARABS, NATIVES would have wiped them out. So the USA/Russia/UK/France/Germany/Japan never could take on the DRAGON.
That's why they say, 'Once you wake up the Dragon, the World will change (for the better)'.
Now, China is 30% urbanized in large cities. If you consider that many of China's small towns are equivalent to tier-II Euro cities, then you can say China is 40% urbanized. China has the 2nd strike capability (as does USA, Russia) to level the planet.
========================================================================
Nations with Nukes are:
Class I (total world annilation capability):
USA > Russia > China
Class II (continental annilation with spillover):
Japan > France > Israel > India > Pakistan > UK > Germany
Class II (regional annilation with some trans-continental capability):
Japan > DPRK > Iran
* Note that Japan can easily move to Class I ahead of China if it converts spent reprocessed fuel to nukes. Japan can be classified as Class II if we consider they have a secret nuke program operation without the US knowing (which is difficult).
* Also ROK may also have a secret nuke program, same as Germany and UK. Ukraine and former USSR states may also have retained nukes. Not to mention the black market underground trade of WMD may give powerful mafias nuke capability.
========================================================================
The nations that have 'power projection' are:
Class A (trans-continental):
USA > China > Russia > Japan > France > ROK > UK
Class B (continental):
India > Pakistan > Brazil > DPRK > Iran
Class C (regional):
the rest of the small nations
========================================================================
Nations that have best survivability of Total World Nuke Destruction (TWND):
Class One (more than 70% survive):
India > Least developed sparsely populated African and Americas
Class Two (more than 50% survive):
China > Least developed Asians and Arabs
Class Three (more than 30% survive):
Least developed Euros
* Surviving the immediately fallout of a total world nuclear war (in which every single nuclear state goes all out!) is one thing. REBUILDING THE NATION AND PEOPLE DEPENDS ON: people's will, remaining infrastructure, cultural strength, language pervasiveness, traditional heritage, religion, etc.
Of this, older civilizations have a more stronger grounding. Thus centuries later Sino Civilization will be restored to her former glory. Civilizations with small population will integrate with the domination ones. This is not to say localized traditions/cultures/civilzations will die out - on the contrary, those in sparsely located ares will THRIVE.
We all will all die sooner or later, so with a TWND most of us will die sooner. But human civilization will be rebuilt on the will and efforts of the remaining survivors. Thus, whatever may happen the world will continue to survive.
Besides I may advise you to stop using the computer which is based off the Abacus, and math which is heavily derived from Chinese (which transfered to Arabs then passed to Europeans who advanced it further).
Ha! Oh, your kidding with that, right?
