Why are Muslim nations behind the West and the Far East?

[jamahir]

Flawed logic, why is Taliban not a superpower then?

Wrong. Taliban is a supa powa, on PDF and generally in the minds of desi Muslims.

 

[MMM-E]

Turkiye and Iran ...

 

[xuxu1457]

Turkiye has one of the best Naval Industry in the World




Turkish shipbuilding industry

The number of shipyards has risen from 37 to 83 in Turkey between 2003 and 2020
Turkey has 585 places for boat production, with a capacity to produce 700,000 tons of steel every year and to build 4.5 million deadweight tons of ships


there are 34 Freight and Container Ships ( 1,6 million DWT ) orders to Turkish shipyards from worldwide ... ( Turkiye ranks 4th after China,S.Korea and Japan )


Turkiye produce Ships up to 300 m
Turkish RMK Marine built 7,000 dwt Chemical Tanker fot The UK

Turkish Kuzey Star Shipyard built Russia's first LNG-powered RO-RO Ship for FSUE Rosmorport in Tuzla, Istanbul
The 200 m long Ship named Marshal Rokossovsky

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Khan Class Powerships are 300 meters long and 50 meters wide with a capacity of 470 MW

240 m Shark Class Powerships, with a maximum capacity of 240 MW, are designed with the highest technology.
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Home

karpowership.com

Seismic Vessel
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and It is a little known fact that Turkey ranks 4th among the world’s luxury yacht producers with 10% of the large yacht production

Turkiye produce its own Warships

Patrol Boat
Fast attack Missile Boat
Corvette
Frigate
Offshore Patrol Vessel
LCT
LST
Submarine Rescue Mother Ship (MOSHIP)
Sea Supply Combat Support Ship

Under development
-- TF-2000 class Destroyer
-- MILDEN class AIP Submarine

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Rankings in some areas are meaningless.For example, in shipbuilding, China, Japan and South Korea account for 94.2% of the world.
The other countries together account for only a few percent.Less than 0.5% of the the same world for Turkey

 

[jamahir]

The CAKIL microprocessor was designed and developed by designer engineers in Turkiye based on RISC-V to be used in all systems as an attractive architecture option since it is open source

Yes, there has to be a universal processor architecture but why couldn't those Turkish engineers design their own design instead of using RISC-V ? Are Erdogan's celebrated computer engineers so incompetent, non-imaginative and not out-of-the-box thinkers ?

NVIDIA also used RISC-V architecture to produce its own processor

In a limited way.

INTEL and AMD spent billions of Dollars for decades

You mention RISC-V so how many billions of dollars did the RISC-V project initiator in University of California and his team spend ? How many billions did the then on and current contributors to the RISC-V project spend ?

43/44 years after the Soviet invasion

What Soviet invasion ?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1660685786948202496

 

[MMM-E]

Rankings in some areas are meaningless.For example, in shipbuilding, China, Japan and South Korea account for 94.2% of the world.
The other countries together account for only a few percent.Less than 0.5% of the the same world for Turkey

The important thing is that Turkiye has the technology to build all Ships between 50 m and 300 m with 83 Shipyards


-- Freight and Container Ships
-- Chemical Tanker
-- RO-RO Ship
-- Power Ships
-- Seismic Vessel
-- Luxury Yacht

Patrol Boat
Fast attack Missile Boat
Corvette
Frigate
Offshore Patrol Vessel
CADET Training Ship
LCT
LST
Submarine Rescue Mother Ship (MOSHIP)
Sea Supply Combat Support Ship
LHD and Aircraft Carrier

Under development
-- TF-2000 class Destroyer
-- MILDEN class AIP Submarine


so Turkiye is only muslim and one of a few Countries in the World that can design and produce Frigate-Destroyer with its own Systems and Missiles

 

[FuturePAF]

Yes, there has to be a universal processor architecture but why couldn't those Turkish engineers design their own design instead of using RISC-V ? Are Erdogan's celebrated computer engineers so incompetent, non-imaginative and not out-of-the-box thinkers ?



In a limited way.



You mention RISC-V so how many billions of dollars did the RISC-V project initiator in University of California and his team spend ? How many billions did the then on and current contributors to the RISC-V project spend ?



What Soviet invasion ?

1979

 

[jamahir]

1979

Thank you for the date but my question is "What Soviet invasion ?".

 

[FuturePAF]

The important thing is that Turkiye has the technology to build all Ships between 50 m and 300 m with 83 Shipyards


-- Freight and Container Ships
-- Chemical Tanker
-- RO-RO Ship
-- Power Ships
-- Seismic Vessel
-- Luxury Yacht

Patrol Boat
Fast attack Missile Boat
Corvette
Frigate
Offshore Patrol Vessel
CADET Training Ship
LCT
LST
Submarine Rescue Mother Ship (MOSHIP)
Sea Supply Combat Support Ship
LHD and Aircraft Carrier

Under development
-- TF-2000 class Destroyer
-- MILDEN class AIP Submarine


so Turkiye is only muslim and one of a few Countries in the World that can design and produce Frigate-Destroyer with its own Systems and Missiles

Any plan to build a nuclear submarine?

Thank you for the date but my question is "What Soviet invasion ?".

From a contemporary source

 

[delta2]

If you look towards the West like USA, France, UK, Canada, Germany, Australia, New Zealand, Italy, Spain,

and when you look at the Far East countries like China, Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, and Singapore why are we are behind in science and technology?

An intellectual asked why? Because we are not well educated in the hard sciences and social sciences and the academic disciplines.

How many undergraduates, associate degrees, master degrees, and college diplomas graduates do Muslim majority countries produce?

To bridge the gap, we need to learn industrialization, how to improve governance, how to improve the economy, manufacturing techniques, improve standard of living,
improve the reputation of our countries, and agricultural output of our countries.

People are invited to give their views. We are looking for constructive criticism, and not insults.

Regards.

Absence of any justice.

We have no meritocracy. Get rid of quotas. Make all jobs based on quantitative, person blind, test. The problem will solve itself.

Then how will the charade continue?

Sub parha hai. Apna mazhab bohat achi tarah jantai hain hum aur isi liye fakhar sai muslim hain

Tu kia samajhta hai k sahil jaisai cartoon ki videos dekh k sirf tu expert ho gaya hai Islam ka??

These clowns are on a different hashish I swear!

Have run into some "scholars" who couldn't read Arabic without the vowels.

The end is near!

 

[MMM-E]

Turkish brands like BEKO , ARCELIK and VESTEL are among the one of the largest producers of consumer electronics and home appliances in Europe

 

[GumNaam]

If you look towards the West like USA, France, UK, Canada, Germany, Australia, New Zealand, Italy, Spain,

and when you look at the Far East countries like China, Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, and Singapore why are we are behind in science and technology?

An intellectual asked why? Because we are not well educated in the hard sciences and social sciences and the academic disciplines.

How many undergraduates, associate degrees, master degrees, and college diplomas graduates do Muslim majority countries produce?

To bridge the gap, we need to learn industrialization, how to improve governance, how to improve the economy, manufacturing techniques, improve standard of living,
improve the reputation of our countries, and agricultural output of our countries.

People are invited to give their views. We are looking for constructive criticism, and not insults.

Regards.

because of mullahs. next question?

 

[Indos]

because of mullahs. next question?

LOL dont blame on Mullah

Who make them Mullah in the first place ?

Mullah/ Islamic preachers are vary in knowledge and wise. It is the society who make that type of Mullah influential or not.

So in the end, Muslim nations should improve their education quality so they can choose better Mullah/Islamic preachers as their source of Islamic knowledge.

Muslim nations should also have good Islamic Universities which study Islam until Phd level so that the nation can produce high quality Islamic Preacher/leaders/Mullah

 

[MMM-E]

Top Countries in Islamic World


Economy ... ( GDP Nominal )
1-- Indonesia $1.391 trillion
2-- S.Arabia $1.061 trillion
3-- Turkiye $1.029 trillion

Egypt+Pakistan+İran combined : $1.121 trillion
( $378 bil + $376 bil + $367 bil )


Economy ... ( GDP PPP )
1-- Indonesia $4.398 trillion
2-- Turkiye $3.572 trillion
3-- S.Arabia $2.300 trillion

Egypt $1.803 trillion
Iran $1.691 trillion
Pakistan $1.582 trillion


GDP PPP Per Capita
1-- Qatar $124.834
2-- The UAE $88.221
3-- S.Arabia $63.836
4-- Bahrain $60.596
5-- Kuwait $53.037
6-- Oman $42.188
7-- Turkiye $41.412
8-- Malaysia $36.847
9--Kazakhstan $32.688
10-Libya $24.599

Turkmenistan $19.974
Iran $19.548
Azerbaijan $18.699
Egypt $16.979
Indonesia $15.855
Pakistan $6.836
Afghanistan $2.456




HDI Index ( Human development index )
1-- The UAE 911
2-- S.Arabia : 875
3-- Qatar 855
4-- Turkiye 838 ... ( Istanbul 867 )
5-- Kuwait 831
6-- Oman 816
7-- Kazakhstan 811
8-- Malaysia 803
9-- Iran 777
10 Azerbaijan , Turkmenistan and Algeria 745

Egypt 731
Indonesia 705
Bangladesh 661
Pakistan 543
Afghanistan 478

Human Development Index (HDI) by Country 2024

Industry
1-- Turkiye
2-- Indonesia
3-- Malaysia

Newly industrialized countries in the World such as Turkiye , China , India , Indonesia , Brazil , Mexico , Malaysia

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

in the 16th-17th-18th centuries
Turks would be able to kill all of you to impose Turkish language and nobody could stop it

but Turks are muslim and The Turks never imposed Turkish language and did not apply a policy of assimilation

British , French even Russians killed people to impose their languages
( Africa or India or Central Asia )

3 Turkic Empires Ottoman, Safavid and Mughal Empires in the 16th-17th-18th centuries

imagine , 3 Turkic Empires Ottoman, Safavid and Mughal Empires together attack on Europe....whole Europe would be ruled by the Turks
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No. It was Hindustani empire, not Turkish. Turks were slave dynasty. There was exodus of Turks I think from the border with China, they were not acting on behalf of their own nation-state. The following makes it clear.

Turkish slaves in the Delhi Sultanate - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

'Turkic slaves throughout the Islamic world, and in the Delhi Sultanate were valued members of society. Their value, for their patrons, was their military capabilities, their loyalty and discipline. Their ability to capitalize on opportunity for social mobility, while maintaining their own unique cultural identity created an interesting tension in their social narrative. Their slave origins created a discrepancy in their nobility. ...
Origins
The need to secure the Sultanate regime from Mongol marauders led to the delineation of a frontier that needed to be defended.[1] To guard the Punjab marches, there was increasingly more and more slaves that were being bought. Their allegiance was not along ethnic lines, and their dedicated patronage allowed them to incorporate themselves into the military hierarchy as trusted officers and commanders. The Sultanate bought Turks in order to develop a strong cavalry arm and in particular to amass a corps of mounted archers.[2] This was a proprietary way to build their military capacity, by taking advantage of a unique skillset.'

 

[wildlens]

the answer is in the question.

Top Countries in Islamic World


Economy ... ( GDP Nominal )
1-- Indonesia $1.391 trillion
2-- S.Arabia $1.061 trillion
3-- Turkiye $1.029 trillion

Egypt+Pakistan+İran combined : $1.121 trillion
( $378 bil + $376 bil + $367 bil )


Economy ... ( GDP PPP )
1-- Indonesia $4.398 trillion
2-- Turkiye $3.572 trillion
3-- S.Arabia $2.300 trillion

Egypt $1.803 trillion
Iran $1.691 trillion
Pakistan $1.582 trillion


GDP PPP Per Capita
1-- Qatar $124.834
2-- The UAE $88.221
3-- S.Arabia $63.836
4-- Bahrain $60.596
5-- Kuwait $53.037
6-- Oman $42.188
7-- Turkiye $41.412
8-- Malaysia $36.847
9--Kazakhstan $32.688
10-Libya $24.599

Turkmenistan $19.974
Iran $19.548
Azerbaijan $18.699
Egypt $16.979
Indonesia $15.855
Pakistan $6.836
Afghanistan $2.456




HDI Index ( Human development index )
1-- The UAE 911
2-- S.Arabia : 875
3-- Qatar 855
4-- Turkiye 838 ... ( Istanbul 867 )
5-- Kuwait 831
6-- Oman 816
7-- Kazakhstan 811
8-- Malaysia 803
9-- Iran 777
10 Azerbaijan , Turkmenistan and Algeria 745

Egypt 731
Indonesia 705
Bangladesh 661
Pakistan 543
Afghanistan 478

Human Development Index (HDI) by Country 2024

Industry
1-- Turkiye
2-- Indonesia
3-- Malaysia

Newly industrialized countries in the World such as Turkiye , China , India , Indonesia , Brazil , Mexico , Malaysia

Except Turkey and Indonesia both of which are quasi secular, the GDP of the the Oil economies has no meaning. UAE is trying to get out of that rut and seems like SA too. Bangladesh will also get out of the rut soon.

Yes, there has to be a universal processor architecture but why couldn't those Turkish engineers design their own design instead of using RISC-V ? Are Erdogan's celebrated computer engineers so incompetent, non-imaginative and not out-of-the-box thinkers ?



In a limited way.



You mention RISC-V so how many billions of dollars did the RISC-V project initiator in University of California and his team spend ? How many billions did the then on and current contributors to the RISC-V project spend ?



What Soviet invasion ?

why would you reinvent the wheel. do you want a special wheel design to show that you are unique.