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a farmer ????????
LOL
you just lost because the journalist's propaganda
he's not a farmer, he is chief engineer, vice director of a company about mechanic
Trần Quốc Hải – Wikipedia tiếng Việt

Huh what do you mean lost? Was I competing for something?

A farmer is a joke everyone is calling him...you know, Trần Hải Lúa.

Btw, what do you mean I lost?

Hey guy i heard we going to buy Radar TRML-3D by Airbus Defense and Space developed, is that true, can anyone confirm

I dont know you need to ask @Aqsuperman, I think he is part of the group that are trolling the journalists to make them post wrong information like this airbus radar. I think they are laughing about it because it got published by soha.
 
hey bro how about stopping infighting and showing more relax.


Vietnam Damen Sông Cấm shipyard

located in Haiphong, facilities at the 42-hectare site, works to enlarging of capacity under way. the yard can assemble up to 50 hulls and outfit 80 vessels per year.

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the shipyard fullfills a contract of building 12 landing ships for Venezuela: Stan Lander 5612 class, length 57,27 m, wide 12,13 m, speed 10,40 knots (19,3 km/h), weight 740 tons. signed at Feb, 2014, contract worth $102,1 millions.

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what do you think of this: we adopt the strategy of germany how its navy fought during the world war 1 and 2 dealing with a far superior british naval fleet. the germans knew, that they had little chance of winning in direct encounter at open sea. not only, the british had more warships than the germans and the french combined, but a long naval tradition. heroic fights.

germany decided to build a masive submarine fleet, and a fleet of armored destroyers such as the panzerschiff graf spee. the warship was small, fast, heavy armed and most importantly thick steel armored, that made the ship withstand and swallow enemy fire. what we need is building armored destroyers that can attack chinese escort fleet. a multi role armored destroyer, packed with land attack missiles and other gadgets, serving as command ship, providing airdefence for the Molynia and Gepard´s.

panzerschiff graf spee
Admiral_Graf_Spee_01.jpg

The way I see that strategy applied to Vietnam is also a lot of submarines and those 4000 ton frigates with strong weapon systems and of course the small boats for the wolf pack attack groups such as Molniya

What Viet Nam need to do is to encourage and allow private companies to start up the military industry, just like how most advanced country with a strong military industry are doing it.

Even in Cambodia, a farmer has managed to build amored vehicles for them. Vietnam is wasting a lot of talents if we only allow a small number of state owned company to be involved in the military industry. They also become lazy if they don’t have competition.

I agree and to concentrate the work on companies like Viettel which are efficient, have a big time talent pool and will do the project as a business as opposite to those small companies set up by the defense ministry which are just to serve their corruption needs
 
hey bro how about stopping infighting and showing more relax.


Vietnam Damen Sông Cấm shipyard

located in Haiphong, facilities at the 42-hectare site, works to enlarging of capacity under way. the yard can assemble up to 50 hulls and outfit 80 vessels per year.

Song_Cam_Shipyard_Damen.ashx



the shipyard fullfills a contract of building 12 landing ships for Venezuela: Stan Lander 5612 class, length 57,27 m, wide 12,13 m, speed 10,40 knots (19,3 km/h), weight 740 tons. signed at Feb, 2014, contract worth $102,1 millions.

Stan_Lander_5612_class_tau_van_tai_do_boVenezuela_mua_12_chiec.jpg


Stan_Lander_5612_class_tau_van_tai_do_boVenezuela_mua_12_chiec2.jpg


Stan_Lander_5612_class_tau_van_tai_do_boVenezuela_mua_12_chiec1.jpg

Nice man, in that place they can make a larger version of the Sigma with nice weapon systems from Russia and Israel integrated into that ship (Barak 8, Klub, etc), that would be the equivalent of the Russian 4000 ton frigates.

Take your time, those title i post are PDF, not article though, there are many article related to World situation and solution quite nice in that forum. Also the date of event and result

Xin chao amigo, is that blog in English or Vietnamese? Sounds very interesting.

I dont know you need to ask @Aqsuperman, I think he is part of the group that are trolling the journalists to make them post wrong information like this airbus radar. I think they are laughing about it because it got published by soha.

Man, this SOHA people are really something else, can't trust anything they say.

They got me one time when they said: "according to a SIPRI report Vietnam ordered......... bla bla bla and it was all bullshit. I posted the info at the MP forum and I got blasted by the SIPRI people.

They look for any hint of anything in the forums and then they make articles like if its the real thing. They make money with those articles so they are always looking for hints and then they make it look like its real.
 
hey bro how about stopping infighting and showing more relax.


Vietnam Damen Sông Cấm shipyard

located in Haiphong, facilities at the 42-hectare site, works to enlarging of capacity under way. the yard can assemble up to 50 hulls and outfit 80 vessels per year.

Song_Cam_Shipyard_Damen.ashx



the shipyard fullfills a contract of building 12 landing ships for Venezuela: Stan Lander 5612 class, length 57,27 m, wide 12,13 m, speed 10,40 knots (19,3 km/h), weight 740 tons. signed at Feb, 2014, contract worth $102,1 millions.

Stan_Lander_5612_class_tau_van_tai_do_boVenezuela_mua_12_chiec.jpg


Stan_Lander_5612_class_tau_van_tai_do_boVenezuela_mua_12_chiec2.jpg


Stan_Lander_5612_class_tau_van_tai_do_boVenezuela_mua_12_chiec1.jpg

Im not fighting my friend. I was just giving an opinion, then someone said I “lost” when I wasn’t sure what I was competing for.

Im a part of what group ?

Read carlosa’s comment. That sipri list was created by that guy named Triumf. I thought you were buddies with him and some other guys in another forum who likes to troll the journalists. I was wrong then.

Xin chao amigo, is that blog in English or Vietnamese? Sounds very interesting.

Its a place with articles mainly on geopolitics, world relations, etc. Mostly for Vietnamese research students, academics, etc.
 
Its a place with articles mainly on geopolitics, world relations, etc. Mostly for Vietnamese research students, academics, etc.

Interesting, so I guess is all in vietnamese right? They translate the articles from English and post them there only in vietnamese, correct?
 
Interesting, so I guess is all in vietnamese right? They translate the articles from English and post them there only in vietnamese, correct?
ya with a source provided and some international useful PDF, but mostly related to Vietnam
 
Interesting, so I guess is all in vietnamese right? They translate the articles from English and post them there only in vietnamese, correct?

Well, they do know English since their goal is to translate articles and docs into Vietnamese so I guess you can join their forum and communicate in English with them if you are interested. Ask @JaiMin he knows more about it. Just dont say you are from PDF lol.
 
The Russians got good 4000 ton frigates
Official normal displacement of frigate of project 22350 is 4500tones, but some experts says it's actually somewhere in between 5000-5500.
It's wrong to judge about ship displacement by photo, but still :D
Here is, the frigate (on the left) close to destroyer of "Sovremeny-class" which is has normal displacement 6500 tonnes.
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Do I miss something or why the Navy does not ask them for joint development of warships?

I'm honestly think that Vietnam doesn't really need the ships bigger that 3000tones, at this moment at least.

In my opinion the best solution for Vietnam could be of project 20386 (the fuhrer development of project 20380). Displacement 2700 tones
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Thanks to modular design you can quickly change the weapons for attack mission, or anti-submarine mission, anti-mines, etc.
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CLUB-K-radar.jpg

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This is corvette was chosen by the Russian Navy and will be laid down in the end of 2015 or in the early 2016. Also, the weapons more likely will be changed from Ak-630 to Pantsir-M and "Uran" missiles to "UKSK".

Vietnam could join to this project and start to build them by licence on their shipyards, 4-8 ships in service of such class could be a serious threat.
 
Official normal displacement of frigate of project 22350 is 4500tones, but some experts says it's actually somewhere in between 5000-5500.
It's wrong to judge about ship displacement by photo, but still :D
Here is, the frigate (on the left) close to destroyer of "Sovremeny-class" which is has normal displacement 6500 tonnes.
29-3905236-gorshkov-i-nastya.jpg




I'm honestly think that Vietnam doesn't really need the ships bigger that 3000tones, at this moment at least.

In my opinion the best solution for Vietnam could be of project 20386 (the fuhrer development of project 20380). Displacement 2700 tones
26-3875041-20386-20380.jpg


img16057.jpg

img16055.jpg

Thanks to modular design you can quickly change the weapons for attack mission, or anti-submarine mission, anti-mines, etc.
1364390362_bu67.jpg

CLUB-K-radar.jpg

30-3878625-dsc09693.jpg


This is corvette was chosen by the Russian Navy and will be laid down in the end of 2015 or in the early 2016. Also, the weapons more likely will be changed from Ak-630 to Pantsir-M and "Uran" missiles to "UKSK".

Vietnam could join to this project and start to build them by licence on their shipyards, 4-8 ships in service of such class could be a serious threat.

I think you are right, that's a nice ship with Pantsir-M and a UKSK VLS for Klub / Yakhont missiles.
 
Official normal displacement of frigate of project 22350 is 4500tones, but some experts says it's actually somewhere in between 5000-5500.
It's wrong to judge about ship displacement by photo, but still :D
Here is, the frigate (on the left) close to destroyer of "Sovremeny-class" which is has normal displacement 6500 tonnes.
29-3905236-gorshkov-i-nastya.jpg




I'm honestly think that Vietnam doesn't really need the ships bigger that 3000tones, at this moment at least.

In my opinion the best solution for Vietnam could be of project 20386 (the fuhrer development of project 20380). Displacement 2700 tones
26-3875041-20386-20380.jpg


img16057.jpg

img16055.jpg

Thanks to modular design you can quickly change the weapons for attack mission, or anti-submarine mission, anti-mines, etc.
1364390362_bu67.jpg

CLUB-K-radar.jpg

30-3878625-dsc09693.jpg


This is corvette was chosen by the Russian Navy and will be laid down in the end of 2015 or in the early 2016. Also, the weapons more likely will be changed from Ak-630 to Pantsir-M and "Uran" missiles to "UKSK".

Vietnam could join to this project and start to build them by licence on their shipyards, 4-8 ships in service of such class could be a serious threat.

I think you are right, that's a nice ship with Pantsir-M and a UKSK VLS for Klub / Yakhont missiles.

The problem that I see with Vietnam is that they keep choosing ships with very weak air defense (Palma) and simple anti ship missiles (KH-35) and that will not do anything against superior chinese naval forces. Those ships are only good to show the flag during peacetime.

Still, I think Vietnam needs a few heavy frigates with powerful medium range air defense systems. Any conflict in SCS will have a very dense missile environment with missile saturation attacks being the norm.

Carlosa can’t read Vietnamese, he is a Spanish with a Vietnamese family.

BTW @Carlosa, ask @cnleio how to set up a VPN to access youtube, gmail, etc in China. You are having difficulty how to use a VPN?

@cnleio, can you help him?

Yeah, I have tried 3 different systems so far and no good results, this is giving me a headache, this damn chinese firewall.
 

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