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23 June 2011 Last updated at 07:53 GMT
Afghanistan: Obama orders withdrawal of 33,000 troops



President Barack Obama has announced the withdrawal of 10,000 US troops from Afghanistan this year and another 23,000 by the end of September 2012.

Mr Obama said it was "the beginning, but not the end, of our effort to wind down this war". At least 68,000 US troops will remain in Afghanistan.

French President Nicolas Sarkozy later said he would also begin to withdraw 4,000 French soldiers from Afghanistan.
The Taliban said the insurgency would continue until all foreign forces left.


In a statement it said Mr Obama's announcement was "symbolic".
"[The] Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan once again wants to make it clear that the solution for the Afghan crisis lies in the full withdrawal of all foreign troops immediately and [while] this does not happen, our armed struggle will increase from day to day," the statement said.

BBC News - Afghanistan: Obama orders withdrawal of 33,000 troops
 
Analysis

Bilal Sarwary

BBC News, Kabul

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The US may be setting a timetable for withdrawing its forces, but there are many questions over the first phase of the security transition. In the past few weeks, insurgents have launched what Afghan intelligence officials say is a carefully planned wave of attacks in all of the areas to be handed over by Nato.

In Panjshir, insurgents tried to detonate a car full of explosives but it blew up before it could reach its target. On Tuesday, the influential governor of Parwan province, Abdul Basir Salangi, a close ally of President Karzai, survived an assassination attempt. In the northern city of Mazar-e-Sharif, a bomb explosion injured two civilians.

In some areas, insurgents have blockaded cities and towns, leaving thousands short of food and medicines.

Afghanistan's police and army are still dependent on coalition forces for air support, food, ammunition and roadside bomb-clearing. In addition, they have high rates of desertion and drug addiction, as well as "rogue" soldiers - there have been a number of incidents in which men in uniform have turned their weapons on Nato and Afghan colleagues.
 
Thank god and good riddance. The sooner these unwanted killers leave our area the better. What have they acheived with all the resourses they have spent. democracy-no, their values no in fact nothing constructive. Just managed to kill innocents. In fact I think Osama is dead but his aim that was to destroy the american economy he has succeeded because US of A is now bankrupt for all intents and purposes.
 
Obama's Afghan withdrawal plan may please no-one

President Obama is claiming the extra troops he decided to send to Afghanistan have done their job and can start coming home.
The withdrawal is rather quicker than the military would like: 10,000 by the end of this year, the remain 23,000 by next September.
White House officials say the Afghanistan surge has worked - al-Qaeda is severely weakened and no longer has safe havens strung out across the border with Pakistan. They claim the fighting against the Taliban in Helmand province and Kandahar has also had the desired result.
The price has been high. In the first year of America's longest war 12 Americans died. The next year, 2002, it was 49. By 2007 it was 117. The year Obama ordered the surge 317 died, last year 499. At $2bn-a-week the cost in money is also a huge drain on a country constantly worried about its immense debt.

But Obama's plan for a rapid withdrawal seems to be directly against the strong advice of the retiring defence secretary Robert Gates and General Petraeus, due to move from being the top Nato military man in Afghanistan to become head of the CIA. The Pentagon felt its plan to switch to a counter-insurgency strategy was working but needed a little more time.

Perhaps Obama noted that generals always feel wars can be won, with a little more time and a few more men. With an election around the corner it maybe what the public wants. All the latest opinion polls suggest the American people are in favour of a quick withdrawal.
The danger for the president is that he will please no one. Some Democrats may want a quicker draw down. So apparently does one Republican candidate, John Huntsman, who described the withdrawal of 10,000 troops this year as cautious although he was speaking before the full plan was known.

The president may talk in more detail about the plan to hand over the fighting to Afghan troops by 2014. But it is worth remembering that when every last solider who was part of the surge is home, there will still be around 70,000 American troops in Afghanistan.

BBC News - Obama's Afgan withdrawal plan may please no-one
 
ANALYSIS: Unwanted US withdrawal from Afghanistan — Musa Khan Jalalzai

One-fourth of the recruits in the Afghan Army are absent from duty at any given time. They do not want to inform their seniors. This high rate of desertion will be one of the biggest challenges faced by the Afghan National Army after the US and NATO withdrawal from the country

The frustration being felt by the US due to the unwinnable war in Afghanistan was clearly evident in the speech by Mr Robert Gates in Brussels in which he threatened to leave the NATO alliance as its member states were not willing to provide sufficient funds and troops for Afghanistan. The US defence secretary criticised NATO for what he said were shortages of military spending and political will. The recent restrictions of European governments placed on their military participation in the Afghanistan war have put Washington in an ordeal.

Mr Gates warned that the US was exhausted by a decade of war and its own mounting budget deficits, and simply might not see NATO as worth supporting any longer. The US Commander in Afghanistan, General Petraeus, has always been a hurdle in the troops’ rapid exit and was last year heard to claim that July 2011 would be a milestone. Before NATO’s Libya operation, NATO General Secretary Rasmussen had already warned about shrinking military expenditures to Europeans at a security conference.

The day-to-day increasingly successful attacks by Taliban insurgents compelled the US president to prefer an immediate withdrawal from Afghanistan. Last Monday, in a White House meeting, President Obama proposed an immediate withdrawal. The focus of Mr Gates’ meeting with the Afghan authorities was on the same issue. Gates made no secret of his frustration in Afghanistan. Military experts understated that the main reason behind US frustration might be the return of civil war, extremist Taliban or the inability of the Afghan forces to maintain stability after the NATO and US withdrawal from the country.

The US’s new defence secretary says that if his country loses Afghanistan, it will become another safe haven for al Qaeda and their militant allies. However, Vice President Joe Biden wants a large pullout, perhaps taking out all 30,000 of the troops sent in over the last 18 months. The Obama government is spending a lot in Afghanistan and a majority of US citizens are demanding the withdrawal of the 100,000 US troops from Afghanistan. The war in Afghanistan, which is being conducted under NATO auspices, is a prime example of US frustration at European inability to provide the required resources.

The Afghan president also showed much frustration while meeting Pakistani leaders in Islamabad last week. The reasons behind his frustration were clear and understandable. In Karzai’s view, the possibilities of ethnic cleansing or the return of the Taliban may again destabilise his country.

The issues of ethnic violence, sectarianism, regionalism and regional political influence were never touched during the last 10 years of the NATO presence in Afghanistan. President Karzai discussed the withdrawal of foreign forces from Afghanistan in a friendly mood in Islamabad and thanked Pakistan for its long-term hospitality to the Afghans. “Afghans will never forget the generous hospitality of their Pakistani brethren,” Karzai said. The main focus of his visit was to seek Pakistan’s cooperation in bringing the Taliban to the negotiation table, which has been the basic objective of the Afghan government and its allies for any future settlement in Afghanistan. The issue of security transition was more important. Karzai told his Pakistani friends that the recent terror attacks carried out by the Taliban in northern Afghanistan were very irksome for him.

In Karzai’s view, if his administration cannot maintain peace in the northern parts of the country, how would they be able to control the troubled south? Ethnic violence in the northern provinces still needs government attention. The numbers in the Afghan National Army currently stand at around 170,000 troops while the number in the warlords’ private militias is 135,000. There are two competing rogue armies in the country. Immediately after the withdrawal of NATO and US troops from Afghanistan, the country will become the battleground of these two armies.

Warlords do not accept the instruction and command of the Afghan National Army and they do not help the state in maintaining stability in the country. Both the state army and private rogue armies have been involved in ethnic and sectarian violence in the recent past. The warlords’ private armies have better military training than the Afghan National Army. Moreover, members of private armies were trained in Australia, Canada, Pakistan, Iran and other states in the thousands, while the Afghan Army received only short military training courses that cannot meet the requirements and standards of a professional military force.

The recent report by the US inspector general for Afghanistan is even more alarming. According to his report, one-fourth of the recruits in the Afghan Army are absent from duty at any given time. They do not want to inform their seniors. This high rate of desertion will be one of the biggest challenges faced by the Afghan National Army after the US and NATO withdrawal from the country. Friendly relations between Pakistan and Afghanistan are often shrouded in distrust and mutual recriminations over the violence plaguing both the states.

Pakistan understands that without peace and stability in Afghanistan, terror incidents cannot be controlled in Pakistan. “We are fighting our own war; we support the people and the government of Afghanistan. We support them and we cannot expect peace in the region without peace in Afghanistan,” President Zardari said. Karzai said that the relationship between the “twin” countries had improved.

The US’s immediate withdrawal from Afghanistan has been long awaited by other states like China and Russia. President Zardari recently visited Russia and China and received Moscow’s appreciation for the role his country is playing in Afghanistan. Russia deployed over 3,000 troops on the Tajikistan border with Afghanistan. Russia fears that the US withdrawal will lead to civil war in the country or extremist fighters moving into the Central Asian region. Pakistan’s time tested friend, China, has also commended Pakistan’s record in combating terrorism. The quick or immediate withdrawal of US and NATO troops from Afghanistan has developed a perception among Afghans that the US is again leaving Afghans marooned. A recent study in the US has warned that faster withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan will cause economic collapse as there is no proper revenue generation in the country. Afghans may suffer from severe economic depression unless proper planning begins.

The writer is the author of Britain’s National Security Challenges and Punjabi Taliban. He can be reached at zai.musakhan222@gmail.com

Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan
 
Analysis - U.S. troop withdrawal may bring risky cuts in aid

By Alistair Scrutton

KABUL (Reuters) - U.S. President Barack Obama's Afghanistan troop withdrawal is likely to be accompanied by cuts in billions of dollars of civilian aid, bringing a precipitous shift of control many fear could tip the country into further corruption and chaos.

Parallel with Obama's draw-down of combat troops by 2014, the United States plans to pull back hundreds of civilian advisers involved in helping govern Afghanistan, whether helping organise the annual budget or FBI agents setting up crime units.

The aim is to wean Afghanistan off foreign aid to form a sustainable state, allowing the West to exit without being accused of abandonment -- an image that has haunted the international community since the Soviet exit in 1989 ended in civil war.

The strategy risks leaving fewer resources for one of the world's poorest countries. Giving what is left to President Hamid Karzai's government -- widely criticised for endemic corruption -- may just end in unchecked graft and political interference in civil projects.

The U.S. disengagement will deprive the economy of spending generated by the presence of more than 100,000 troops and it could bring a drop in aid from bilateral donors and the United Nations, especially if the Taliban insurgency quickens.

"The president has even said we are living in a picnic," Karzai's spokesman Waheed Omer told Reuters. "We are living a luxurious life because lots of countries, including the U.S., are pumping money here and that is not sustainable."

U.S. aid has fallen from $4.2 billion (2.6 billion pounds) in 2010 to a budgeted $2.5 billion this year and could fall further because of an increasingly sceptical U.S. Congress.

Total international aid of around $10 billion may drop by half, according to defence analyst Michael O'Hanlon of the Brookings Institution think tank.

Analysis - U.S. troop withdrawal may bring risky cuts in aid | World | Reuters
 
AFGHANISTAN
Debate Rages over U.S. Withdrawal
Jim Lobe*


WASHINGTON, 8 Jun (IPS) - With only three weeks left before U.S. military forces are scheduled to begin withdrawing from Afghanistan, the debate over the size and pace of that withdrawal has become increasingly intense.

On one hand, the Pentagon, backed by prominent neo-conservatives and other hawks, insists that the 18-month-old "surge" of 30,000 U.S. troops has turned the strategic tide against the Taliban.

Anything more than a "modest" drawdown of a few thousand of the nearly 100,000 soldiers and marines there through the end of the year, they argue, risks losing all that has been gained.

"I would hope that (the withdrawal) is very small," the 2008 Republican presidential candidate, Sen. John McCain, told the Financial Times this week. "I would hope that it is 3,000. We need another fighting season (against the Taliban)."

On the other hand, President Barack Obama's political advisers, backed by a strong majority of Democrats and a small but growing minority of Republicans in Congress, are arguing for a much more substantial withdrawal.

In the clearest marker so far, the influential chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, Carl Levin, said this week that at least 15,000 troops should be withdrawn between July and the end of the year.

His appeal came just days after the ranking Democrat on the House subcommittee that oversees the Pentagon's budget, Rep. Norm Dicks, shocked Washington by calling for an end to the U.S. military presence in Afghanistan before 2014. Current plans call for the U.S. and its NATO allies, which have sent more than 40,000 troops, to withdraw all their combat forces by the end of that year.

"We need to start seeing if we can do this (withdrawal) a little faster," Dicks, a veteran Democratic hawk, told Politico.

"I think the American people would overwhelmingly like to see this brought to a conclusion sooner than 2014," he said, citing growing "war fatigue" in Congress.

Obama, who has promised that the initial withdrawal will be "significant", has otherwise kept his cards close to his chest. The White House said he was still waiting to receive formal recommendations from the outgoing defence secretary, Robert Gates, who met with military commanders during a three-day farewell visit of Afghanistan that began on the weekend.

The withdrawal debate has intensified steadily since the May 2 killing by U.S. Special Forces of Al-Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden at a compound in the Pakistani resort town of Abbottabad where he had apparently been living for six years. Until then, it appeared that the Pentagon and its civilian allies would prevail upon Obama to withdraw only a "modest" – if not token – number of troops in July and through the end of the year.

But bin Laden's demise gave new momentum to the war's critics who have long argued that Al-Qaeda had, for all practical purposes, left Afghanistan in 2001 and that Washington's military-led counterinsurgency (COIN) strategy there was overly ambitious and largely ineffective, if not counter-productive.

"We've gone from being waist- to chest-deep in quicksand," noted Matthew Hoh, who directs the Afghanistan Study Group and served in Afghanistan as both a Marine captain and a State Department adviser.

At the same time, the growing focus in Congress about the yawning government deficit has cast a harsher light on the war's enormous cost – some 10 billion dollars a month, not including another 300 million dollars a month for civilian-led aid projects.

It was these considerations, as well as unhappiness with U.S. military operations in Libya, that led late last month to near- passage by the House of Representatives of an amendment to the 690- billion-dollar 2011 defence authorisation bill that required Obama to submit a plan for withdrawing U.S. troops and "an accelerated transition" of U.S. operations there to the Afghan government.

The amendment, which was defeated 204-215, gained the votes of all but eight Democrats and 26 Republicans – a total of nearly 42 more votes than a similar measure last year.

The vote, which was taken as a strong indication of war weariness, appears to have tilted the balance in the debate, as the Pentagon and its backers stepped up their public campaign for a "modest" withdrawal of just a few thousand troops beginning in July.

Thus, a Washington Post/ABC poll released earlier this week that showed a sharp increase - from 31 percent last March to 43 percent after bin Laden's death - in the percentage of people who believe that the war in Afghanistan has been worth the costs was seized on by one former Bush administration adviser as evidence that Obama "probably has the political breathing room" to choose a "measured withdrawal" as opposed to a "rapid retreat".

The same survey, however, showed found that three out of four respondents favoured withdrawing "a substantial number of U.S. combat forces from Afghanistan this summer".

At the same time, Kimberly and Frederick Kagan, neo-conservative military analysts close to the outgoing U.S. commander in Afghanistan, Gen. David Petraeus, published an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal arguing that "nothing about conditions on the ground justifies the withdrawal of any U.S. or coalition forces".

Moreover, they warned, if Obama withdraws all 30,000 "surge" forces by the end of 2012, "the war will likely be lost."

Gates, who has called for a "modest" drawdown, has not offered a specific number, but, since the House vote, in particular, he has made clear that he wants as few combat troops as possible to leave.

"I think we shouldn't let up on the gas too much, at least for the next few months," he said over the weekend. He has also hinted that he will speak out publicly in support of the current strategy after he steps down at the end of the month.

Whether this will be enough to sway Obama, who has been criticised by his fellow-Democrats for deferring too much to the military, remains to be seen.

But it is clear that disillusionment with the war is spreading in both parties.

Releasing a highly critical staff report on the effectiveness and sustainability of U.S. aid programmes in Afghanistan Wednesday, Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman John Kerry expressed strong doubts about the current strategy.

"While the United States has genuine national security interests in Afghanistan," said Kerry, a key foreign policy ally of the White House, "our current commitment, in troops and dollars, is neither proportional to our interests nor sustainable."

His remarks were seconded by the Committee's ranking Republican, Sen. Richard Lugar. "Despite 10 years of investment and attempts to better understand the culture and the region's actors, we remain in a cycle that produces relative progress but fails to deliver a secure political or military resolution," he said.

"Undoubtedly, we will make some progress when we are spending more than 100 billion dollars per year in that country. The more important question is whether we have an efficient strategy for protecting our vital interests that does not involve massive open-ended expenditures and does not require us to have more faith than is justified in Afghan institutions," he said.

AFGHANISTAN: Debate Rages over U.S. Withdrawal
 
23 June 2011 Last updated at 07:53 GMT
Afghanistan: Obama orders withdrawal of 33,000 troops



President Barack Obama has announced the withdrawal of 10,000 US troops from Afghanistan this year and another 23,000 by the end of September 2012.

Mr Obama said it was "the beginning, but not the end, of our effort to wind down this war". At least 68,000 US troops will remain in Afghanistan.

French President Nicolas Sarkozy later said he would also begin to withdraw 4,000 French soldiers from Afghanistan.
The Taliban said the insurgency would continue until all foreign forces left.


In a statement it said Mr Obama's announcement was "symbolic".
"[The] Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan once again wants to make it clear that the solution for the Afghan crisis lies in the full withdrawal of all foreign troops immediately and [while] this does not happen, our armed struggle will increase from day to day," the statement said.

BBC News - Afghanistan: Obama orders withdrawal of 33,000 troops

What will happen to the indian warriors in Afghanistan after the departure of the americans and the Europeans?
 
French to follow U.S. troop withdrawal from Afghanistan

The Associated Press

Posted: Jun 23, 2011 7:09 AM ET

Last Updated: Jun 23, 2011 7:09 AM ET

A soldier of the French Foreign Legion looks on during a patrol in Kapisa province in January 2011. Joel Safet/AFP/Getty Images

France will pull its 4,000 troops out of Afghanistan on the same staggered timetable as the U.S. withdrawal, President Nicolas Sarkozy said Thursday, helping pave the way for drawdowns by other allies.

Sarkozy's announcement comes just hours after U.S. President Barack Obama said the United States planned to begin bringing troops home this summer. France's withdrawal will take place in co-ordination with allies and Afghan officials and "in a proportional manner comparable to the withdrawal of American troops," Sarkozy's office said.

Obama announced an initial drawdown of 10,000 troops in two phases — with 5,000 troops coming home this summer and 5,000 more by the end of the year. An additional 20,000-plus are to follow by September 2012.

German Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle welcomed Obama's announcement, saying his country shares the goal of reducing the German contingent of 4,900 at the end of this year. However, Germany has not yet settled on details.

Britain has already said its nearly 10,000 troops will be out by at least 2015 if not a year earlier. About 450 personnel on temporary missions are due out by February.

CBC News - French to follow U.S. troop withdrawal from Afghanistan
 
Is that end of NATO in Afghanistan?!!!!

No ate .... No drunk ..... Broke the glass ....... BILL 12 cent
 
Hoping for them to get a humiliating withdrawal due to the problems they've caused for Pakistan over the last 3 odd years.
 
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