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The US has raised objections to the agreement under which China will supply two nuclear reactors to Pakistan. These objections are likely to be eared during the next meeting of Nuclear Supply Group (NSG) scheduled to be held in New Zealand in near future.

US State Department spokesman Gordon DuGuid has already commented: "The US expects Beijing to cooperate with Pakistan in ways consistent with Chinese non-proliferation obligations." The news leak and remarks by the State Department spokesman seems to be a deliberate attempt to assess reactions of the Chinese and Pakistani authorities. The Chinese stance is quite clear, that the proposed installation of nuclear reactors is part of the agreement that was concluded before 2004 - the year China joined NSG. So the objections likely to be raised by the US do not apply to the agreement.

Pakistan certainly is perplexed as the proposed US objections are giving out signals. On the one hand, Pakistan is a frontline state in war on terror, a non-NATO ally and engaged in a strategic dialogue with the US to smoothen out differences to build a long-term relationship; while on the other hand the US is trying to block the Pak-China nuclear deal that is critical to meet Pakistan's power needs.

Interestingly, the US has been historically weak vis-à-vis its friends with regard to the question of nuclear proliferation. It clearly underlines a trend in US policy where it has turned a blind eye to the nuclear programmes of its allies or openly embraced those programmes in the name of global and regional security. A manifestation of this policy is the recently concluded US-India civil nuclear deal, which, effectively recognises the nuclear status of India despite its refusal to join the NPT. It is a clear instance of "rule bending" by the US for its friends, a trend detrimental to global non-proliferation regime.

It also raises serious questions about the sincerity of the US desire to see a world free of nuclear weapons. Not only that, India has been facilitated in concluding safeguard agreement with IAEA for Indian civil nuclear reactors at its choice. To further brace its nuclear capabilities, Washington lobbied for country specific concessions for India from NSG. As a result, India has signed lucrative nuclear deals with France, UK and Russia. All these efforts will have long-term repercussions on regional balance of power. Presumably, the efforts are directed at energising India as a counterweight to China in the region. On the other hand, Pakistan which is a nuclear weapon state is easily overlooked.

If we look at the global trend, the use of nuclear energy for power generation is on the increase. According to an estimate, 15 percent of the world electricity is being produced through 436 operational nuclear reactors. Reportedly, another 53 are being installed, out of which nine are in non-nuclear states. Another 130 are planned and 250 are proposed. This clearly shows that the world is opting for nuclear energy to meet its growing need for power. Under such circumstances, if Pakistan having over 30 years of experience in managing nuclear installations wants to pursue its energy needs through nuclear reactors that should be understandable and quite justified.

In spite of all the odds Pakistan has maintained the desired control on its nuclear assets. President Obama, in a press conference on April 28, 2009, had also shown confidence in the safety of Pakistan's nuclear weapons. Unfortunate though, on the one hand the US reposes confidence in the security of Pakistan's nuclear assets, while on the other hand it opts to block the Pak-China nuclear deal, which is self-contradictory. This will greatly hurt the feeling of the people of Pakistan and contribute to turning public opinion against the US. by Alam Rind "The Nation"

Source: Pakistan Ideology

Nawaz
 
The US has raised objections to the agreement under which China will supply two nuclear reactors to Pakistan. These objections are likely to be eared during the next meeting of Nuclear Supply Group (NSG) scheduled to be held in New Zealand in near future.

US State Department spokesman Gordon DuGuid has already commented: "The US expects Beijing to cooperate with Pakistan in ways consistent with Chinese non-proliferation obligations." The news leak and remarks by the State Department spokesman seems to be a deliberate attempt to assess reactions of the Chinese and Pakistani authorities. The Chinese stance is quite clear, that the proposed installation of nuclear reactors is part of the agreement that was concluded before 2004 - the year China joined NSG. So the objections likely to be raised by the US do not apply to the agreement.

Pakistan certainly is perplexed as the proposed US objections are giving out signals. On the one hand, Pakistan is a frontline state in war on terror, a non-NATO ally and engaged in a strategic dialogue with the US to smoothen out differences to build a long-term relationship; while on the other hand the US is trying to block the Pak-China nuclear deal that is critical to meet Pakistan's power needs.

Interestingly, the US has been historically weak vis-à-vis its friends with regard to the question of nuclear proliferation. It clearly underlines a trend in US policy where it has turned a blind eye to the nuclear programmes of its allies or openly embraced those programmes in the name of global and regional security. A manifestation of this policy is the recently concluded US-India civil nuclear deal, which, effectively recognises the nuclear status of India despite its refusal to join the NPT. It is a clear instance of "rule bending" by the US for its friends, a trend detrimental to global non-proliferation regime.

It also raises serious questions about the sincerity of the US desire to see a world free of nuclear weapons. Not only that, India has been facilitated in concluding safeguard agreement with IAEA for Indian civil nuclear reactors at its choice. To further brace its nuclear capabilities, Washington lobbied for country specific concessions for India from NSG. As a result, India has signed lucrative nuclear deals with France, UK and Russia. All these efforts will have long-term repercussions on regional balance of power. Presumably, the efforts are directed at energising India as a counterweight to China in the region. On the other hand, Pakistan which is a nuclear weapon state is easily overlooked.

If we look at the global trend, the use of nuclear energy for power generation is on the increase. According to an estimate, 15 percent of the world electricity is being produced through 436 operational nuclear reactors. Reportedly, another 53 are being installed, out of which nine are in non-nuclear states. Another 130 are planned and 250 are proposed. This clearly shows that the world is opting for nuclear energy to meet its growing need for power. Under such circumstances, if Pakistan having over 30 years of experience in managing nuclear installations wants to pursue its energy needs through nuclear reactors that should be understandable and quite justified.

In spite of all the odds Pakistan has maintained the desired control on its nuclear assets. President Obama, in a press conference on April 28, 2009, had also shown confidence in the safety of Pakistan's nuclear weapons. Unfortunate though, on the one hand the US reposes confidence in the security of Pakistan's nuclear assets, while on the other hand it opts to block the Pak-China nuclear deal, which is self-contradictory. This will greatly hurt the feeling of the people of Pakistan and contribute to turning public opinion against the US. by Alam Rind "The Nation"

Source: Pakistan Ideology

Nawaz

US is certainly not a friend of Pakistan or else she should offer the same Nuke deal(US-India Nuke deal) to Pakistan.
 
Let this be clear, Pakistan has no good friends to rely on, it can only rely on itself only!
 
Let this be clear, Pakistan has no good friends to rely on, it can only rely on itself only!

We can rely on China for weapons. Comparing to other Islamic nations, we are already so lucky. Saudi Arabia has TONs of cash and yet they can't buy Nukes.
 
The USA is the best non-neighbor friend that Pakistan has. Perhaps China is a better friend. How much aid does China provide?
 
US is neither friend nor foe
its a state working for its interests
now they have interests with us , thats why they are at present friends

tommorow when these interests will end
we will be treated exactly like we were treated in 90's
 
US is neither friend nor foe
its a state working for its interests
now they have interests with us , thats why they are at present friends

tommorow when these interests will end
we will be treated exactly like we were treated in 90's

Works both ways.
 
Nations are never friends, they just have mutual interests. The U.S and Pakistan may not be on the same page on each and every issue but they are certainly the best ally we have other than China, they helped train our army, set up cantonments when our nation was in it's infancy, they have always sent us food and grain during droughts, and I respect them for that, had it not been for the Pressler Amendment, I think most other Pakistanis would have too.
 
america is certainly an enemy. since the time of independence it has used and abused pakistan. US aid is nothing but a blackmail. unfortunately our so called leaders have their bank accounts in western so they dance like puppets on US's directions. everyone knows US works on zionists' agenda. they didnt even listen to their own people to stop the war against iraq, how can they be sincere to us then?
 
... friends? We don't have any friends we do have allies - partners for mutual benefit.
 
Nations are never friends, they just have mutual interests. The U.S and Pakistan may not be on the same page on each and every issue but they are certainly the best ally we have other than China, they helped train our army, set up cantonments when our nation was in it's infancy, they have always sent us food and grain during droughts, and I respect them for that, had it not been for the Pressler Amendment, I think most other Pakistanis would have too.

even india offered us aid during 2005 earthquake. does that mean they are our allies? giving you peanuts in reply of blood is not what allies do to you
 
even india offered us aid during 2005 earthquake. does that mean they are our allies? giving you peanuts in reply of blood is not what allies do to you

I'm not talking about aid, I'm talking about how U.S helped us establish ourselves as a successful nation. I think of the Americans as our allies...................
 
The problem is that although we have been allies since 1948, there is a trust deficit between the people, this is a Govt to Govt relationship in which people are not involved, rather, they are quite uncomfortable. There are many misconceptions in America regarding Pakistan, I was shocked to hear a grown American man ask me once "Is it true Pakistanis like eating Dogs ?" Similarly, there are gross misconceptions in Pakistan regarding America. What is needed are some confidence building measures that will help bring our relationship on track and will help us better understand each other. Americans who visit Pakistan tend to speak very highly of the people, of the hospitality, the multi-lingual culture, colourful festivals, but those who haven't are a slave to the media, which will not refrain from marketing lies that on one hand destroy a county's international image but on the other, earn the news agency a pocketful of cash, same is the case in Pakistan, the media does it's best to cash on people's ignorance and insecurities to earn an extra buck, that is why we have such negative perceptions of each other...............my two cents......
 
The USA is the best non-neighbor friend that Pakistan has. Perhaps China is a better friend. How much aid does China provide?

compare what any other so called Muslim friends have done for Pakistan apart from radicalizing & fighting their proxy wars at the expense of the lives of the public?

these Arab countries have showered their selected religious schools with money & the result is lal Mosque incident

despite our poor commitment, known & proven corruption Americans have shown great patience while dealing with our governments

like any responsible country America has duty to its own people first then the friends & partners

if Pakistanis manage to elect & support a committed & sincere leadership then Americans will be more than happy to do do business with us. they dont have any special love for India
in the end it is all about who is beneficial in longer terms in terms of business and international relations

99.99% Americans are fine
 
america is certainly an enemy. since the time of independence it has used and abused pakistan. US aid is nothing but a blackmail. unfortunately our so called leaders have their bank accounts in western so they dance like puppets on US's directions. everyone knows US works on zionists' agenda. they didnt even listen to their own people to stop the war against iraq, how can they be sincere to us then?

If I was pakistan I would take any help I could get that would prevent Pakistan from becomeing a Taliban Hell Hole and be greatful for it.
 
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