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Ukrainian Su-25 fighter detected in close approach to MH17 before crash - Moscow

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The Russian military detected a Ukrainian SU-25 fighter jet gaining height towards the MH17 Boeing on the day of the catastrophe. Kiev must explain why the military jet was tracking the passenger airplane, the Russian Defense Ministry said.

“A Ukraine Air Force military jet was detected gaining height, it’s distance from the Malaysian Boeing was 3 to 5km,” said the head of the Main Operations Directorate of the HQ of Russia’s military forces, Lieutenant-General Andrey Kartopolov speaking at a media conference in Moscow on Monday.

“[We] would like to get an explanation as to why the military jet was flying along a civil aviation corridor at almost the same time and at the same level as a passenger plane,” he stated.

The SU-25 fighter jet can gain an altitude of 10km, according to its specification,” he added. “It’s equipped with air-to-air R-60 missiles that can hit a target at a distance up to 12km, up to 5km for sure.”

The presence of the Ukrainian military jet can be confirmed by video shots made by the Rostov monitoring center, Kartopolov stated.

At the moment of the MH17 crash an American satellite was flying over the area of eastern Ukraine, according to Russia’s Defense Ministry. It urged the US to publish the space photos and data captured by it.

‘Ukrainian Buk missile system transported to militia-held area’
In addition, MH17 crashed within the operating zone of the Ukrainian army’s self-propelled, medium-range surface-to-air ‘Buk’ missile systems, the Russian general said.

“We have space images of certain places where the Ukraine’s air defense was located in the southeast of the country,” Kartapolov noted.

The first three shots that were shown by the general are dated July 14. The images show Buk missile launch systems in about 8km northwest of the city of Lugansk – a TELAR and two TELs, according to the military official.
Another image shows a radar station near Donetsk.

The question that has to be answered is why the missile system appeared in the area controlled by the local militia forces shortly before the catastrophe, he stated.

Images taken on July 18 show that the missile systems left the area of the MH17 crash, the military official said.

Kartapolov also pointed to the fact that on the day of the plane crash Ukraine’s military increased activity on the part of Ukraine’s Kupol-M1 9S18 radars, which are part of the Buk system.

"..there were 7 radars operating on July 15, 8 radars operating on July 16, and 9 radars operating on July 17 in the area. Then, starting with July 18, the intensity of radar activities radically decreased, and now there are no more than two or three radars operating a day. The reason behind this is yet to be found."

In response to Moscow’s evidence, Kiev said on Monday it had proof the missile that brought down a Malaysian airliner last week came from Russia.

"There is evidence that the missile which struck the plane was fired by terrorists, who received arms and specialists from the Russian Federation," spokesman for Ukraine's Security Council Andrey Lysenko told a news conference. "To disown this tragedy, [Russia] are drawing a lot of pictures and maps. We will explore any photos and other plans produced by the Russian side."

Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko said on Monday that Kiev has “strong evidence” of the causes of the MH17 crash.

We know exactly the place [the surface-to-air missile was] launched, we know exactly the place where it hit the civilian plane and the place where the plane crashed.

Kiev is ready to hand the information to the international investigation commission, according to the presidential press-service.

Ukrainian Su-25 fighter detected in close approach to MH17 before crash - Moscow — RT News
 
The Kiev Junta has confiscated all recording of the tower and has not released them. Guess why!
 
At the moment of the MH17 crash an American satellite was flying over the area of eastern Ukraine, according to Russia’s Defense Ministry. It urged the US to publish the space photos and data captured by it.

Interesting- the ball is in amrika's court-
 
Interesting- the ball is in amrika's court-
Do you exercise any bit of critical thinking at all ? What is to prevent US from releasing a photo that 'proved' Russia backed rebels fired the missile ? May be even the name and rank of the commander standing next to the truck ? Are you that eager to implicate US and remove Russia from any involvement that you would suspend thinking at all ?
 
Logically speaking , how can rebels have technology that Russia does not provides to anyone ...

S300 can sure reach that high , ... and no one gets hand on that weapon not even countries that pay for it sometimes

It makes more sense that Ukranian fighter Jet was flying behind the Malasian Airlines and trying to sneak into Russia to spy , when it got caught , it launched a missile and ran
 
Do you exercise any bit of critical thinking at all ? What is to prevent US from releasing a photo that 'proved' Russia backed rebels fired the missile ? May be even the name and rank of the commander standing next to the truck ? Are you that eager to implicate US and remove Russia from any involvement that you would suspend thinking at all ?
Only if russia backed rebel fired the missile isn't it?- it would have been so easy right?- show it to the world-

The data and images must have been showing something else like a Ukrainian SU-25 tailing the passenger jet?- firing a missile?- so its complicated now- truth is complicated now- its amrikan interests in ukraine at stake now-
 
Do you exercise any bit of critical thinking at all ? What is to prevent US from releasing a photo that 'proved' Russia backed rebels fired the missile ? May be even the name and rank of the commander standing next to the truck ? Are you that eager to implicate US and remove Russia from any involvement that you would suspend thinking at all ?

Sir, it won't be that easy both Ukraine and Russia have the Buk Missile, will be difficult to differentiate. IMO we should wait for further evidence to show us the light, interesting to see if Su-25 is seen in the satellite imagery
 
Well, unlike gun bullets, missiles are very expensive and therefore under strict and constant control. And they ae also much fewer of them than bullets. Each time you use a missile it's registered. since Ukraine doesn't produce the missiles themselves, they have to buy them from Russia and Russia knows exactly how many missiles the Ukraine has.

How about checking the inventory of the Ukraine's Buk missiles?
 
Why US can determine MH17 was shot down by Buk Missile in such short period of time? So far I see no evidence released from US side :victory:
 
hmm.. Since the su25 was tailing the plane, maybe the su25 was the real target and the missile accidentally hit the passenger plane? Just a theory, but, we might never know the truth...
 
Sir, it won't be that easy both Ukraine and Russia have the Buk Missile, will be difficult to differentiate. IMO we should wait for further evidence to show us the light, interesting to see if Su-25 is seen in the satellite imagery
And every US satellite is a spy satellite equipped with high resolution cameras.
 
And every US satellite is a spy satellite equipped with high resolution cameras.
which would make things even more clear

Any color scheme differentiation between Ukraine and Russian Buk Missile
 
Well its impossible unless it was Ukranian fighter jet that caused the confusion it may have been trying to fly close to commercial plane to sneak into Russia for spying and may have launched a missile when Russia detected it sneaking in
 
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