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Ukraine war: Zelensky adviser says West’s 'indecision' is killing Ukrainians

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January. 21 2023

An adviser to President Volodymyr Zelensky has said that the West's "indecision" over sending extra weapons to Ukraine is "killing more of our people".
"Every day of delay is the death of Ukrainians," Mykhailo Podolyak wrote on Twitter.

His remarks come after Ukraine's defence minister said he had a "frank discussion" with his German counterpart about German Leopard 2 tanks, which Kyiv is urgently requesting to confront Russian armour.

Germany has insisted that it is not blocking the delivery of German-made Leopard tanks, which other countries want to send.

"We had a frank discussion on Leopards 2. To be continued," Oleksii Reznikov said after meeting Western allies on Friday.

The meeting at Ramstein Air Base in Germany brought an agreement to supply more armoured vehicles, air defence systems and ammunition.

On Saturday, an adviser to Mr Reznikov told the BBC that Nato countries committed to helping Ukraine need to be several steps ahead of the enemy.

Yuriy Sak said that the West needed to redefine what it meant to stand with Ukraine - and that it did not simply mean stabilising Ukraine's front line.

"To be able to defend our land means to be able to de-occupy our land, to liberate our territories and for this we need heavy tanks, for this we need armoured vehicles," he said.

The Leopard 2 is seen as a potential game-changer for Ukraine, as it is easy to maintain and designed specifically to compete with the Russian T-90 tanks, which are being used in the invasion.

German Defence Minister Boris Pistorius said opinions remained divided over supplying Leopards, and he denied that Berlin was blocking such a move.

Under German export laws, other countries who want to supply Leopards - like Poland and Finland - are unable to do so until Berlin gives the all-clear.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky praised the Nato partners for their military assistance, but said "we will still have to fight for the supply of modern tanks".
"Every day we make it more obvious that there is no alternative, that a decision about tanks must be made."

Ukraine's current tanks are mostly old Soviet models, often outnumbered and outgunned by Russian firepower.

More than 2,000 Leopards are sitting in warehouses all over Europe. President Zelensky believes about 300 of them could help to defeat Russia.

Mr Pistorius said Berlin was prepared to move quickly if there was consensus among allies, though he could not say when a decision on the tanks might be made.

Germany has found itself in a deadlock due to several factors including international diplomacy and the legacy of World War Two.

It used to have a policy of not sending arms to conflict zones, but that was reversed following Russia's invasion of Ukraine in February 2022.

Late last year, Nato chief Jens Stoltenberg said Germany was now "among the allies providing most military, financial and humanitarian aid to Ukraine", by supplying artillery, air defence systems and Marder infantry fighting vehicles.

But Germany is reluctant to send Leopards unless they are part of a wider Nato package that preferably includes America's powerful M1 Abrams tanks. The US has rejected this, saying the Abrams tanks are impractical for Ukraine's forces because they are difficult and expensive to maintain.

Regardless, there has been pressure in some corners for the US to send its tanks, and to persuade Germany to do the same.

US Defence Secretary Lloyd Austin denied that Berlin was waiting for the US to make the first move. "This notion of unlocking - in my mind it's not an issue," he said after Friday's meeting of 54 countries at Ramstein Air Base.

Germany also remains haunted by the Nazi-era devastation it caused in World War Two, and Chancellor Olaf Scholz has been cautious about having anything to do with an escalation in Ukraine.

A leading opposition Christian Democrat (CDU) politician in Germany, Johann Wadephul, condemned the government's "policy of refusal" on the Leopards, saying it would affect Germany's international reputation. "What is Scholz waiting for?" he asked.

Poland's Foreign Minister Zbigniew Rau also criticised Germany's reluctance.

"Arming Ukraine in order to repel the Russian aggression is not some kind of decision-making exercise. Ukrainian blood is shed for real. This is the price of hesitation over Leopard deliveries. We need action, now," he tweeted.

Western countries have committed billions in other weaponry - but without Germany's commitment on tanks, it was not the result Ukraine was hoping for.

Other countries have committed to sending tanks, including the UK, which will send 14 Challenger 2s.

The US announced fresh support worth more than $2.5bn (£2bn) this week, including armoured vehicles.

The Pentagon promised an extra 59 Bradley armoured vehicles, 90 Stryker personnel carriers and Avenger air defence systems, among other supplies.

Nine European nations have also promised their own weapon support after meeting in Estonia on Thursday.

 
Isn't it clear what the world's view is? Fight your own fukin war and learn fight countries your own size!-"Yuriy Sak said that the West needed to redefine what it meant to stand with Ukraine - and that it did not simply mean stabilising Ukraine's front line."
 
It's becoming a protracted war and a war of attrition, Ukraine stands no chance to win in the end, Russia will eventally wear Ukraine down.
 
It's becoming a protracted war and a war of attrition, Ukraine stands no chance to win in the end, Russia will eventally wear Ukraine down.
lol, that come from how many years of your fighting experience??

Explain to me how an invader wears the defender down? It's always the other way around. And occupation spend a lot more manpower and resource than invasion. Russia would have to bring in supply and troop from Russia, and Ukraine will hit these troop and resource using long range artillery and insurgency direct action.

If Russia is just merely holding on at this stage, how do you suppose it "worn down" the Ukrainian as you claim??

I would like to hear the military science behind that?

Isn't it clear what the world's view is? Fight your own fukin war and learn fight countries your own size!-"Yuriy Sak said that the West needed to redefine what it meant to stand with Ukraine - and that it did not simply mean stabilising Ukraine's front line."
They need to stabilise their frontline before talking about counter attack.

There are still time for the West to send tanks, and depends on the upcoming Russian offensive, the Ukrainian have a few road they can walk and they have options.
 
It's becoming a protracted war and a war of attrition, Ukraine stands no chance to win in the end, Russia will eventally wear Ukraine down.
Yes Ukraine has no chance however you need to help the Russians a bit. Putin needs China to deliver army foods. His soldiers are hungry. They hunt foods in Ukraine houses.
 
It's becoming a protracted war and a war of attrition, Ukraine stands no chance to win in the end, Russia will eventally wear Ukraine down.
Yes and Poland too. I am just surprised how Poland is hiding its casualties.
 
lol, that come from how many years of your fighting experience??

Explain to me how an invader wears the defender down? It's always the other way around. And occupation spend a lot more manpower and resource than invasion. Russia would have to bring in supply and troop from Russia, and Ukraine will hit these troop and resource using long range artillery and insurgency direct action.

If Russia is just merely holding on at this stage, how do you suppose it "worn down" the Ukrainian as you claim??
Russia is a vast country with limitless resources and the battle field is at Russia's doorway , logistics is not a big problem due to proximity, some battle fields are even closer to Russia. besides, Russia wants to talk and Ukraine refused, so I guess Russia just wants to settle for the lands where majority Russians live in Ukraine, so it's really hard to say who enjoys home advantage.

Yes Ukraine has no chance however you need to help the Russians a bit. Putin needs China to deliver army foods. His soldiers are hungry. They hunt foods in Ukraine houses.
China never supported this war from day one, it's still an agression war. China maintains normal trade relations with Russia but won't directly provide military support or get involved in this war, China officially still maintains good relations with both Russia and Ukraine.
 
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Russia is a vast country with limitless resources and the battle field is at Russia's doorway , logistics is not a big problem due to proximity, some battle fields are even closer to Russia. besides, Russia wants to talk and Ukraine refused, so I guess Russia just wants to settle for the lands where majority Russians live in Ukraine, so it's really hard to say who enjoys home advantage.

lol, after the April 2022 Logistic Meltdown and you still claim Logistic is NOT a big problem?? There are even wikipedia page about it


And Kyiv is what? 150 km from Russian Force jump off point in Belarus? They have 4 months to set up log base in the area, and they still manage to f up that perspective, and you are talking about the rest of Ukraine, which is further than 150km from any jump off point.

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And lucky Russia was not fighting a near peer in this war, if they were up against anyone with a decent Air Force, this is going to be a lot worse than just being beaten back from Kyiv.

And lol, Sure, majority of Russian live in Kyiv and Kherson, is that the reason why Russia attack in those direction?? They wouldn't still be attacking Bakhmut almost 1 year into this war had they just want to settle with Donbas like you said.

Don't quit your day job bud.
 
lol, after the April 2022 Logistic Meltdown and you still claim Logistic is NOT a big problem?? There are even wikipedia page about it


And Kyiv is what? 150 km from Russian Force jump off point in Belarus? They have 4 months to set up log base in the area, and they still manage to f up that perspective, and you are talking about the rest of Ukraine, which is further than 150km from any jump off point.

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And lucky Russia was not fighting a near peer in this war, if they were up against anyone with a decent Air Force, this is going to be a lot worse than just being beaten back from Kyiv.

And lol, Sure, majority of Russian live in Kyiv and Kherson, is that the reason why Russia attack in those direction?? They wouldn't still be attacking Bakhmut almost 1 year into this war had they just want to settle with Donbas like you said.

Don't quit your day job bud.
Our previous Air Force commander said that if Israel had a target similar to the Russian 60 mile convoy the Air Force and Artillery officers would be cheering and opening champagnes in the command centers.

Truly a shame the US didn't send them at least the HIMARS before the war began.
 
Our previous Air Force commander said that if Israel had a target similar to the Russian 60 mile convoy the Air Force and Artillery officers would be cheering and opening champagnes in the command centers.

Truly a shame the US didn't send them at least the HIMARS before the war began.
There is a term "I died and went to artillerymen heaven"

It would have been one of those time if I have things that can hit that far and in this "target rich environment".
 

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