TURKEY KEEN TO JOIN CPEC

[Menace2Society]

Uncle Sam funded the Mujahdeen. The ISI choose the factions that got the money. After 1990 Uncle Sam washed their hands. The ISI choose to back the Taliban.

Pakistan backed who was in charge of Afghanistan.

India backed and funded Northern Alliance child molesting warlords to create even more conflict and civil war in 90s. Is that giving Afghanistan a viable alternative? India is just as responsible for the mess in Afghanistan as Uncle Sam.

 

[wiseone2]

Pakistan backed who was in charge of Afghanistan.

India backed and funded Northern Alliance child molesting warlords to create even more conflict and civil war in 90s. Is that giving Afghanistan a viable alternative? India is just as responsible for the mess in Afghanistan as Uncle Sam.

India had nothing to do with the Northern Alliance until the IA jetliner was hijacked to kandahar

 

[Menace2Society]

India had nothing to do with the Northern Alliance until the IA jetliner was hijacked to kandahar

Sure sure just like how you like to build up the fabrication of ISI being capable of controlling a country and blaming Pakistan for Taliban and Al Qaeda. Afghans can buy this bullshit but others see through it.

Uncle Sam face saving exercise of blaming somebody else for their f**k ups and Indians carrying on the lie because it suits their perverted agenda.

Central Asia and Pakistan deserve better and it will get better with CPEC. Indian subversion and hegemony of fear bye bye

 

[Azadkashmir]

 

[war&peace]

Excellent. Asia is the future, let's take our rightful place where we originally belong. Our European adventure is beginning to see an end

Future belongs to Asia anyway so it is the right time to look towards Asia.

 

[Thorough Pro]

Turk brothers are always welcome to join in.

 

[LA se Karachi]

If Iran and Turkey join CPEC, the possibilities for economic connectivity in the Eastern Hemisphere are almost limitless.

 

[wiseone2]

Sure sure just like how you like to build up the fabrication of ISI being capable of controlling a country and blaming Pakistan for Taliban and Al Qaeda. Afghans can buy this bullshit but others see through it.

Uncle Sam face saving exercise of blaming somebody else for their f**k ups and Indians carrying on the lie because it suits their perverted agenda.

Central Asia and Pakistan deserve better and it will get better with CPEC. Indian subversion and hegemony of fear bye bye

stop blaming Uncle Sam for all your screw ups

 

[newb3e]

If you look at the map Iran already have access to Eu,Central Asia ,China and Russian markets ... Its Pakistan which needs Iran to get access to these markets.....wont you think we had done good with out CPEC all these years....and also as some of your country men said ,we cannt join CPEC with out giving up Kashmir... First lets have fruits then we can deside if they are enjoyable or not,but till then we wish you guys all the best.


Dont post off topic posts,most of post by them are like their wish list and not actually whats on the ground.

By better access i meant trade agreements economic zones investments.CPEC has potential to unite asia under on common economic zone something like eu.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

@Mrc @T-123456 @MadDog
turkey isnt talking abt china's one road one belt initiative only which u have shown in diagram. It is specifically interested in CPEC and Gwadar through already existing ECO initiative (remember Gul Train?). Quetta-Tehran-Istanbul road rail network. In Quetta it is expected to be connected with already existing infrastructure of CPEC (CPEC's most important western route), That would take cargo to gwadar and karachi or vise versa.

These two countries as well as Bulgaria and Romania r also interested in this initiative. They believe that in future Pakistan may allow them to trade with india too by using Pakistan's great road and motorway infrastructure as well as through railway lines, which however Pakistan wont allow unless India gives up on Kashmir.

With Chinese tailwind it'll be difficult for Iran not to participate. There're no shortage of alternatives..

 

[war&peace]

With Chinese tailwind it'll be difficult for Iran not to participate. There're no shortage of alternatives..

The best will be if Iran participates as it will benefit Iran too otherwise through sea and also through CAS are the alternatives like Turkey + Azerbaijan + Turkmenistan + Afghanistan + Pakistan
Iran is also interested in joining CPEC.

 

[A-Team]

If I were an Afgan with the Kabul government instead of thinking about Pak or Turkey I'd have studied Vietnam. With >70% divorce rate, the western folks can change their mind in no time and are gone before you know it...

Says someone who is sitting in the West Turkey has been going into extremes to join the EU, the current deal of refugees to allow Turkish folks to travel to schengen areas without a visa shows to which extreme Turkey is going in its outreach towards the West. I mean for the love of God you guys are using the the misery of others to score points over visa stuff?

Those countries should try to get Afghanistan and Pakistan together and talk about it,make sure you have friendly relations because you are both our brothers.

Well Afghanistan has reached out to Pakistan via Turkey, China via the QCQ peace group but the Burka offensive and the current strikes in Kabul paint how those efforts are going!

China will. Turkey would cling on but if the wind turned into gale force, she would let go. China. No. Period.

This does not make Turkey bad. Just that only China can stand upto USA. Russia would ditch Pakistan faster then you count upto 3.

And I am not basing this on emotional surge of hormones. but basing it on real strategic calculus.

So Turkey and Russia are off as I anticipated as for China that is debatable. China's interest vis-a-vis US far outways her interests vis-a-vis Pakistan. Can you point to a couple of points where China will piss off to the extent that ruins here relationship with the US for Pakistan, what does China get for ruining a global relationship with the sole superpower?
I think for China Pakistan is of regional significance just because of her size, influence in the region etc, probably as a counterweight towards India but for China US is of global importance.

Anyways would be nice to have a couple of bullet points where China will go to an extreme to safeguard Pakistani interests against those of US.

Thanks

 

[Khan_21]

Question is will China, Russia, Turkey and others take a beating for Pakistan vis-a-vis US? I highly doubt it. Pakistan and as matter of fact all other tiny countries are insignificant when it comes to strategic interests of bigger folks like China, US.



Turkey and Iran on the same side, no! But leadership in both countries keep economics separate from politics, something Pak, India and Afg can learn from.

If the worlds 6th largest country , Nuclear power , 25th largest Economy by PPP and a regional power is tiny than I don't know what are you even smoking . Pakistan right from 1947 has always been a very important political entity in the world .

 

[Pandora]

With Chinese tailwind it'll be difficult for Iran not to participate. There're no shortage of alternatives..

Iran has been the biggest hindrance in Pak Turk corridor. Pakistan proposed friegth trains from pakistan turkey via iran but they shelved it by demanding ludicrous amount of tax on the cargo. Dont hope for anything from Iran.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Iran has been the biggest hindrance in Pak Turk corridor. Pakistan proposed friegth trains from pakistan turkey via iran but they shelved it by demanding ludicrous amount of tax on the cargo. Dont hope for anything from Iran.

Turkish folks know the ground reality. There are alternatives without Iran. Insha'Allah Turkish companies will be second to China in investments in Pak..