Toulouse "gunman" suspected of training in Pakistan

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    According to French authorities, the suspect in the killings of three Jewish children, a rabbi and three paratroopers in the south of France has links to jihadists, and has spent time in Afghanistan and Pakistan in the past.



    France's Interior Minister Claude Guéant said that this knowledge had prompted intelligence agents to track the suspect for several years. However, he said he had given them no reason to suspect he was preparing a criminal act.



    The suspect has been named as Mohammed Merah, a 24-year-old Frenchman of Algerian descent. He told police he belongs to al-Qaeda. He claimed to have carried out the killings to avenge the deaths of Palestinian children and protest French troops' presence in Afghanistan.



    We spoke to an expert on extremism to find out what kind of training foreign jihadists have access to in Pakistan, as well as just across the border in Afghanistan.


    You can't just walk into a terrorist training camp"

    Irfan Husain is a Pakistani journalist. He is the author of "Fatal Faultlines", a book on Islamic radicalisation.





    Usually, foreigners who come to Pakistan and train in terrorist camps are of Pakistani descent, but not always – the infamous Shoe Bomber, for example, was British, born to English mother and Jamaican father.



    You can't just walk into a terrorist training camp. Typically, these young men already know someone there or they have contacted preachers over the Internet. When they arrive in Pakistan, they first attend Islamic schools to receive religious training. Those who recruit them take time to know them, to make sure they're not spies. Once they're sure they're genuine, they dress them up in local clothing and drive them into the hills - sometimes blindfolded - to camps where they are given training in small arms and explosives.



    For the kind of crime the Toulouse killer committed, you don't need a whole lot of weapons training – but you need cold-blooded determination. The brainwashing these men receive in the training camps could certainly help with that.



    There's also a second scenario – some young men come to Pakistan purely to receive religious training, at first, and then over time get sucked into becoming militants. Still, they usually have a predisposition toward extremism.



    Most of these camps are today located in north Waziristan province, in tribal areas. Despite pressure from the US, the Pakistani army stays away. The logic is that these militants are not considered hostile to Pakistan, so they leave them alone. From there, it's easy to travel to similar training camps in Afghanistan – the border is porous. The training men receive in Afghanistan is very similar.


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    No wonder Pakistan is called the epicentre of world terror this is not good for Pakistan's image.
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    Lol.. Whosoever sacked the temple of Somnath.. you will pay the damages..
    Very true for Pakistan.
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    So i guess that, nowhere in the world you can learn to fire a gun other than Pakistan? :tongue:
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    Another propagenda against Pakistan by zinests, they will never accepts it was their manufactured gun and bullets
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    Post a reliable source
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    French authorities said today and remind that Pakistan police arrested him as he was in a group that Pakistan was fighting.
    So it is not Pakistan that anyone is blaming here .

    They blame some networks of terrorism.

    On TV he showed to be young and "baby" look like. Many people said he was violent but they didn't expect such terrible action.

    The two most famous representants of Islam in France on TV said the Islam he is speaking about has nothing to do with Islam.
    As well the authorities of Palestine today said (i see it on French TV channel a few minutes ago) that this is a shame that assassins are using the Palestine problems to make such terrible actions which have nothing to do with Palestine.
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    These kinds of things make it worse for Immigrants, at this point the EU should ban Immigrants from North Africa, Middle East and Pakistan for the time being or at least let skilled Immigrants enter.
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    Very unfortunately such connections will continue to haunt Pakistan in the coming future.

    What's even worse is that innocent people who have no connection to anything get killed when these Jihadi losers go to get their ticket to heaven.

    This will result in even more hatred and opposition to Muslims within the west now.
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    He claimed to have carried out the killings to avenge the deaths of Palestinian children

    So by his twisted logic he kills kids himself wtf this guy should be tested for mental health first.
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    Clearly propaganda. No serious investigation team would come to conclusions so quickly while other gunmen could still be on the loose. As soon as Netanyahu made comments it became obvious there was a political angle to this. But the French and Zionists knows there are plenty of idiotic dumbed up sheep ready and willing to swallow this up as if it's their soup of the day.
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    am i surprised?
    and shall we care?

    All these stories come without any proof and if Pakistani rulers had balls they had asked for proof...
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    Its funny that they havent yet caught the Guman,and the voices already told them that the gunman was trained in Pakistan..
    This Krap is getting old..they should come up with some new trick to continue their profitable war against Made up terror.
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    hmmmm not really.

    How they found him:
    after the killings of the army men they had a list of potential suspects that could be linked to anti army positions or extrem groups. Then when he killed the kids in Jew school, they checked all phones that were connected in the area and compare to the list and they found him.

    How they know about his past:
    He was a thief and violent young guy. When he was in jail it seems he met some people that convinced him to go in Afghanistan.
    The counter terrorist group had his name since not only h'es been there but he was arrested by Pakistan police , Pakistan who said to France about this guy. So it is YOUR country that gave the informations to France: your country said to France that he was preparing for bomb attentat when he was arrested.

    ok?