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Ticonderoga, Arleigh Burke vs Slava, Sovremenny (or Udaloy)

I don't think anyone has mentioned these...

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There are 10 Nimitz class fleet aircraft carrier task forces in the US Navy. Each flattop a 110,000+ tonne ship. Each with nearly 100 combat aircraft when under way. There are also nine 40,000+ tonne "smaller" aircraft carriers which are designated amphibious assault ships which are nevertheless, aircraft carriers that are larger than almost any other country's flagship carriers. Even those are quickly being replaced by the America class AAS's, each approx. 45,000 tonnes. They will deploy with F-35's as the main combat fix-wing component of the carrier air wing. The sole Russian aircraft carrier, the Admiral Kuznetsov only has a standard displacement of 43,000 tonnes, by comparison and has a record of limited deployments and troublesome flight operations, especially at night.
 
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The LRASM programme is initially focused on the development of two variants, the LRASM-A and LRASM-B. The LRASM-A was designed based on Joint Air to Surface Stand-off Missile Extended Range (JASSM-ER) airframe, and includes added sensors and systems. The LRASM-B was designed for high-altitude and supersonic speed over stealthy penetration. The LRASM-B development was, however, cancelled by DARPA in 2012.

LRASM-A is a subsonic cruise missile based on Lockheed Martin's 500 nm-range AGM-158 JASSM-ER. It incorporates a multi-mode radio frequency sensor, a new weapon datalink and altimeter, and an uprated power system. It has a reduced range relative to the JASSM-ER, more similar to that of the original JASSM. It can be directed to attack enemy ships by its launch platform, receive updates via its datalink, or use onboard sensors to find its target. LRASM will fly towards its target at medium altitude then drop to low altitude for a seaskimming approach to counter anti-missile defenses. For surface launches, LRASM will be fitted with a modified Mk 114 jettison-able rocket booster to give it enough power to reach altitude (i.e. little or no reduced range. When converting the land-attack JASSM-ER to the anti-ship LRASM, you’re going to lose some range when you add in the sensors and some other capabilities needed to hit a moving ship, but it remains a long-range weapon.)

Operational
ranges370km (230mi)[JASSM]
1000km (620mi)[JASSM-ER]

Long Range Anti-Ship Missile (LRASM)
LRASM · Lockheed Martin
Long Range Anti-Ship Missile (LRASM) - Naval Technology

P-800 (Yakhont)
  • Range: 120-300km
  • for the combined trajectory (the length of the final section 40 km) - 300 km
  • for low-altitude trajectory - 120 km
Even if max range were 500 instead of 300, that is the range with high-low trajectory. The low-low trajectory would certainly not be more than 200km in that case. In high-ow trajectory the missile is very detectable early on. Pitted against that would be e.g.RIM-174 Standard Extended Range Active Missile (ERAM) aka Standard SM-6 ( airframe of the earlier RIM-156A Standard SM-2ER block IV, coupled with the active radar homing head of the AIM-120C AMRAAM instead of the semi-active seeker of the previous design, which required target illumination) with a 240km range. Plus the good old 190km RIM-156A Standard SM-2ER block IV itself, plus the 50+km ESSM, plus 9+km RAM block 1 and the newer VL block II. And Phalanx. Plus various ECM systems e.g. AN/SLQ-32, Mk-53 Nulka decoy, Mk 36 SRBOC chaff.

DO NOTICE THE RELATIVE STEALTHINESS OF THE P-800 AND LRASM AIRFRAMES.


I don't think anyone has mentioned these...

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There are 10 Nimitz class fleet aircraft carrier task forces in the US Navy. Each flattop a 110,000+ tonne ship. Each with nearly 100 combat aircraft when under way. There are also nine 40,000+ tonne "smaller" aircraft carriers which are designated amphibious assault ships which are nevertheless, aircraft carriers that are larger than almost any other country's flagship carriers. Even those are quickly being replaced by the America class AAS's, each approx. 45,000 tonnes. They will deploy with F-35's as the main combat fix-wing component of the carrier air wing. The sole Russian aircraft carrier, the Admiral Kuznetsov only has a standard displacement of 43,000 tonnes, by comparison and has a record of limited deployments and troublesome flight operations, especially at night.

I think most of us are aware of those. However, that does not mean they are always present (you need a 10 carrier force to have 2 on station in theatre at any given time iirc), which leave a lot of potential scenarios in which carrier aviation may not necessarily be available.

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LRASM-A

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LRASM B ?
 
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DDG-1000 is the similar Iron and steam warship at 19th century
ex: Bayan & Bayern class

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Project 21956
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Design
The ship is intended to engage major surface combatants and submarines, perform anti-submarine and air defense, as well as fire support for landing operations.

The exterior of the ship is built with stealth technology reducing the ship's radar cross-section (RCS). The Project 21956 also features an integrated combat management system that operates as a network for a higher degree of survivability.
Propulsion
The Project 21956's M96 two-shaft main gas-turbine assembly produces 54,420 KW (74,000hp) which consists of:[3]

  • two D090 cruise gas turbine engines developing 10,650 KW (14,500hp) each
  • two DT-59 boost gas turbine engines developing 16,560 KW (22,500hp) each
  • four diesel generators developing 1,250 KW (1,675hp) each
The propulsion system allows a top speed of 29.5 knots, an economical speed of 18 knots with a maximum range of 5,800 nautical miles (10,700 km; 6,700 mi). The ship's stability allows the armament and machinery to be operated at up to sea state 5. And numbers of ship in nuclear propulsion is unknown. An aft flight deck and hangar provides facilities for two Ka-27 helicopters.

Sensors
The sensor suite includes Fregat MAE-3 and Fregat MAE-4K multifunction air surveillance radars, Mineral-ME surface search radar, Zarya-ME-03 hull-mounted sonar system, Vinyetka-EM towed sonar array, TK-25E electronic countermeasure system and KT-308-5 passive jamming system.

Armament
Air Defense
The air defense suite of the Project 21956 includes one AK-130 130mm twin-barrel multi-purpose gun with 5P-10-02E fire control radar and a maximum range of 23 kilometers. Rif-M extended range air defense system with 3Ts-48E control system and six 3S-48E launchers at bow deck. Each launcher has eight 48N6E2 missiles or four 9M96 missiles replacing each 48N6E2 missile. Kashtan-M short-range air defense system with 3R86-ME command module, 3R87-1E combat module and eight 9M311-1 missiles and 30mm rounds.

ASW suite
The anti-ship and anti-submarine weapon systems are located at the aft deck. ASW weapons include: 3Ts-14E launchers with 91RTE2 anti-submarine rockets; and TPU/4 missile-torpedo launchers for 91RE1 anti-submarine rocket or torpedoes of UGST or UETT type. ASuW weapons consist of the Kalibr-NKE weapon systems which comprises the 3R-14N fire control system, 3S-14E launchers and up to 16 3M54TE subsonic cruise missiles, 3M54E supersonic cruise missiles or 91RTE2 rockets carrying an anti-ship torpedo. The 3M54TE/3M54E missiles are intended to engage either surface ships or targets onshore at ranges of 220 kilometers. Nevertheless, the weapon system may include tailored weapon systems according to customer requirements such as BrahMos supersonic missile and/or BrahMos 2 hypersonic missile replacing Club-N missile system.

Project
The project would be the first post-Soviet destroyer designs to be built by the Russian Navy. The destroyers will be built for escorting future Mistral-class amphibious assault ships or aircraft carrier project and for littoral defense and resource protection in the northern fleet.

Class overview
Name: Project 21956 destroyer
Builders: Severnaya Verf (Northern Wharf Shipyard), Saint Petersburg
Preceded by: Sovremenny class/Udaloy-class destroyers
Planned: 16[1]
Completed: 0
General characteristics
Class & type: Project 21956 destroyer
Tonnage: 9 000 tfl (classic propulsion) and 13 500 tfl (nuclear propulsion)
Displacement: 9,000 t (8,900 long tons) full
Length: 163 m (534 ft 9 in)
Beam: 19 m (62 ft 4 in)
Draught: 5.6 m (18 ft 4 in)
Installed power: Cruise Power 21,300 kW
Boost Power 33,120 kW
Total Combined Power 54,420 kW
Propulsion:
  • Nuclear power is an option.
  • Alternatively:
  • 2 × D090 14,500 hp (10,813 kW) cruise gas turbines
  • 2 × DT-59 22,500 hp (16,778 kW) boost gas turbines
  • 4 × 1,675 hp (1,249 kW) diesel generators
Speed: 29.5 knots (54.6 km/h; 33.9 mph)
Range: 5,800 nmi (10,700 km; 6,700 mi) at 18 kn (33 km/h; 21 mph)
Endurance: 30 days
Complement: 300
Sensors and
processing systems:
  • Fregat MAE-3 air search radar
  • Fregat MAE-4K air search radar
  • Mineral-ME surface search radar
  • 5P-10-02E fire control radar
  • Zarya-ME-03 hull-mounted sonar system
  • Vinyetka-EM towed sonar array
Armament:
  • 1 × AK-130 130 mm (5 in) twin-barrel multi-purpose gun
  • 48 × 48N6E2 or 192 × 9M96E surface-to-air missiles
  • ? × 3Ts-14E launchers with 91RTE2 anti-submarine rockets
  • ? × Kashtan CIWS
  • ? × TPU/4 launchers for 91RE1 anti-submarine rockets or torpedoes (UGST or UETT type)
  • ? × 533 mm (21 in) torpedo tubes for UGST
  • 16 × 3M54TE (SS-N-27) cruise missiles or 91RTE2 anti-shipping rockets
Aircraft carried: 2 × Ka-28/Ka-31 helicopters
Aviation facilities: Helipad and hangar
 
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The project number suggest 21st century follow on to Sovremenny (project 956). Hwever, Project 21956 is nothing more than a rehash of the Udaloy class, just like Talwar class is a rehash of a Krivak 3. It is a yard export proposal that never got any takers, it is not a russian naval project.
 
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Does anyone know the armour of modern warships?

I have read Kirov Battlecruiser armour for 2 side 100mm, 76mm for nuclear reactors and 50mm elsewhere (unknown materials). Most modern warships armor use limited Kevlar splinter protection.

Unknown DDG-51's armor, but it is similar speculations USS Stark. Stark withstand many tons of explosives Exocet which hardly sunk or broken pair

These ships are particularly well protected against splinter and fragmentation damage, with 19-mm aluminum-alloy armor over magazine spaces, 16-mm steel over the main engine-control room, and 19-mm Kevlar plastic armor over vital electronics and command spaces.

The FFG 7 OLIVER HAZARD PERRY Class

Note FFG 7 class frigates only. It has weighing 4100 long tons, compared with 6800 long tons of weight DDG-51 is too small. However warships now using lighter materials. They focus on missile defense system, CIWS rather than armor.

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Another problem, Exocet only Mach 0.92 670 kg weight and rate of change throughout the itinerary, in addition Exocet only designed to hurt the enemy ships, which can be deduced by guess it was not designed to sink the enemy ships like the design of the Russian anti-ship missiles. Ex: The P-1000 Vulkan is a follow-on development based on the Bazalt missile. It features a titanium replacing steel armor plates on the launch Bazalt decreasing the weight. And afford a destroyer sunk with a single shot

The relatively compact missile is designed for attacking small- to medium-size warships (e.g. frigates, corvettes, and destroyers), although multiple hits are effective against larger vessels, such as aircraft carriers.Norman Friedman "The Naval Guide to World Weapons Systems - 1994 Update" page 109 Naval Institute Press 1994"1994 Update" has a recent study by the Russians about the effect of missile boat anti-ship missiles. 3 hits to destroy a light cruiser, 1 to 2 hits for a destroyer or frigate. Russian missile boat anti-ship missile have far larger warheads than the Exocet
Exocet : What is Exocet?




Brahmos, Yakhont 1 hit kill the target warship


Doing a small calculation, the Exocet weighs 700 kg and flies at Mach 0.9. The Brahmos weighs 3000 kg and travels at mach 2.8. From KE = 1/2 * m * v^2. By that token, Brahmos has 4 * 3^2 = 36 times the Kinetic energy of the Exocet. Added to that is the larger warhead

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The effectiveness of the Aegis system is also a big question mark? addition of armor cruiser Chancellorsville (Ticonderoga class) is not really durable. Even BQM-74E drone (weighing 249 kg, speed 606 mph, ceiling of 12m) can also penetrate the hull

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2013/nov/18/chancellorsville-drone-investigation/
 
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Moskit hit kill (sinking) the target


Exocet damage to HMS Sheffield but can't sinking it

 
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Does anyone know the armour of modern warships?


most modern warships are very lightly armored(still much more than civilian ships of course), what they are good at is damage control after being hit.
 
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most modern warships are very lightly armored(still much more than civilian ships of course), what they are good at is damage control after being hit.

Indeed that is the most important thing on a ship is damage control. U.S. naval ships has never been sunk to a missile once because of damage control.

Does anyone know the armour of modern warships?

I have read Kirov Battlecruiser armour for 2 side 100mm, 76mm for nuclear reactors and 50mm elsewhere (unknown materials). Most modern warships armor use limited Kevlar splinter protection.

Unknown DDG-51's armor, but it is similar speculations USS Stark. Stark withstand many tons of explosives Exocet which hardly sunk or broken pair



The FFG 7 OLIVER HAZARD PERRY Class

Note FFG 7 class frigates only. It has weighing 4100 long tons, compared with 6800 long tons of weight DDG-51 is too small. However warships now using lighter materials. They focus on missile defense system, CIWS rather than armor.

stark1.jpg


Another problem, Exocet only Mach 0.92 670 kg weight and rate of change throughout the itinerary, in addition Exocet only designed to hurt the enemy ships, which can be deduced by guess it was not designed to sink the enemy ships like the design of the Russian anti-ship missiles. Ex: The P-1000 Vulkan is a follow-on development based on the Bazalt missile. It features a titanium replacing steel armor plates on the launch Bazalt decreasing the weight. And afford a destroyer sunk with a single shot


Exocet : What is Exocet?




Brahmos, Yakhont 1 hit kill the target warship


Doing a small calculation, the Exocet weighs 700 kg and flies at Mach 0.9. The Brahmos weighs 3000 kg and travels at mach 2.8. From KE = 1/2 * m * v^2. By that token, Brahmos has 4 * 3^2 = 36 times the Kinetic energy of the Exocet. Added to that is the larger warhead

USS+Chancellorsville+drone+damage+fix+1117.jpg


The effectiveness of the Aegis system is also a big question mark? addition of armor cruiser Chancellorsville (Ticonderoga class) is not really durable. Even BQM-74E drone (weighing 249 kg, speed 606 mph, ceiling of 12m) can also penetrate the hull

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2013/nov/18/chancellorsville-drone-investigation/

The effectiveness? How about reading the article you posted.

The cruiser’s Aegis weapons system had been outfitted with Baseline 9, the latest air defense suite, and was going through a routine radar tracking exercise as part of its Combat Systems Ship Qualification Trials. The exercise is designed to calibrate the radar and targeting systems with a telemetry drone that typically gets no closer than a half-mile away. It is unusual to fire at these expensive target drones. The range and ship are on a radiotelephone net to coordinate the exercise.

The Navy has used the subsonic BQM-74E “Chukar III” drone for more than four decades. At 12 feet long, it looks like a mini-Tomahawk cruise missile. Test flights are directed by controllers with Naval Air Warfare Center Weapons Division, which oversees the sea testing range that includes San Nicolas Island.

The cruiser’s CIC was told roughly four seconds before impact that controllers with Point Mugu had lost contact with the drone, and many crew members believe the drone went “rogue” — either failing to respond to remote control or deviating from its preprogrammed route. These are the two operating modes for the BQM-74E, according to missile designer Northrop Grumman.
 
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Can Turkey make a deal with US and Canada to get their old Military and Commercial hardware for scrap purpose.

Also similar thing for Pakistan to scrap EU equipment locally.
 
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What makes INS Kolkata better than its counter-part Chinese Type-052D ?


Type - 052CS OR 052D *

Sensors and Processing systems :

Kolkata's one of the outstanding features compared to competitors Type-052D is a powerful electronic system that is heart phased radar AESA active electronically (EL / M 2248-MF-STAR 4) array radar antenna atop the tower, provides the ability to control a very large target. This type of radar is rated best in the world at present, it provides high image quality, interface, support for each weapon, weather conditions and difficult environments in the field of naval current and future. The radar is capable of tracking airborne targets too at sea and at the same time it is capable of retaliation with guided missiles for air and sea, anti-ship missiles, gunboats. EL / M 2248-MF-STAR has a very high accuracy and Comparable performance to radar AN / SPY-1D Aegis destroyer in the United States. Support for radar surveillance is the EL / M-STAR 2238. Both are 2 different types of radar made by Elta of Israel IAI manufacturing. Besides this, Kolkata is equipped with airborne radar surveillance LW-08 of the Thales group, France. Anti-submarine capability, Kolkata destroyers are also equipped with the new generation of the hydro-acoustic cover HUMSA-NG hull-mounted array and an array entail. Electronic warfare systems Deseaver MK II by Elbit Systems manufactures and combat data systems multi-objective EMCCA Mk-4 in India.



INS Kolkata



Type - 052D
Horror called BrahMos :

Another factor combining to create superior power for Kolkata destroyer weapon system to its best. Kolkata destroyers are equipped with 4x8 vertical launch system (VLS) using two types of air defense missile Barak-1 12 km range and medium-range missile interceptors Barak-8 which has a range of 70 km.Anti-ship missile BrahMos supersonic (above) completely outperformed the YJ-62 (below) for all the indices.Barak-8 missiles are capable of independent operation with very high and almost not dependent on the target system or navigation. This product is a joint venture between India and Israel, however, the development of this missile is happening quite slowly, much to influence the time taken to Kolkata destroyers to be fully operational.
On air defense capability, the Type-052D have an advantage over the anti-aircraft missile system range HHQ-9 (naval variant of the HQ-9) has a range of 150 km. However, this advantage of the Type-052D is not too large. The experience of the conflict in the recent past shows, winning unbeaten in air defense operations are often decided in the mid-range area. The most fearsome weapon of destroyer Kolkata is 16 vertical launch tubes using anti-ship cruise missile BrahMos PJ-10. These anti-ship missiles have the fastest speed in the world today with a range of up to 300 km. BrahMos is a deadly threat to any warship. Meanwhile, Type-052D using anti-ship missile YJ-62 with a 300 km range, subsonic speed. YJ-62 is certainly not comparable to the BrahMos on all indications.
About gunboats, Kolkata is equipped with 130 mm Russian gunboats, however then transferred to 76 mm using the French gunboat rate shot up to 220 bricks / minute. Type-052D's gunboats are equipped with 100 mm has an advantage over the range, Kolkata also has an advantage on the RPM (Rounds Per Minute)
Armament and Aviation Facilities :

KolkataClass destroyer's are equipped with 4 533mm torpedo tubes and two anti-submarine rocket launchers RBU-6000. There is also support of two anti-submarine helicopters Agusta Westland Sea King or HAL Dhruv. Meanwhile 052D's Type-3 clusters are equipped with 2 torpedo tubes with the assistance of one anti-submarine helicopter Z-9C or Ka-28 (Russian). ASW capability of Kolkata destroyers prevails with the support of two RBU-6000 systems, Type-052D is lacking any this kind of system. On defense capabilities at extremely close range, Kolkata destroyers are equipped with 4 ultra-fast firing CIWS AK-630 . Meanwhile, Type-2 052D are only equipped ultra-range defense system Type-730 . Ability of extreme close-range defense of Kolkata is also supported by low-altitude air defense missile Barak-1, Type-052D Weapon systems also are limited than Kolkata in this maner. System dynamics of Kolkata and Type-052D are similar. Type-052D uses a propulsion systems and gas turbine-diesel mixture CODOG. Kolkata class destroyers are equipped with propulsion system COGAG (combined gas turbine engines).
From the specs above shows destroyers Kolkata India's dominant than the Type-052Cs opponents of it, especially the Indian press every claim that using anti-ship missiles mounted to the free end leading passive radar can face Type-052Cs with 100% probability


Kolkata Class vs Type 052C/D


The Great Asian Showdown : India’s Kolkata Class v/s China’s Type-52D Destroyer
Posted on September 24, 2014 by N.R.P
 
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Posted on September 24, 2014 by N.R.P


This is my first article which involves comparing major frontline warships. In this article I will compare the most powerful destroyers of the Chinese Navy and the India Navy, The Type-52D class and Kolkata class respectively. The reason I’m choosing to compare these two is because they are the newest destroyers of their respective nations and incorporate multifunction AESA radars and long range missiles with vertical launch capabilities. They pack a formidable punch but they have their strengths and weaknesses. These two ships will be the primary escorts of the Chinese Navy and Indian Navy carriers for years to come. They are game changers for their respective nations. All these will be discussed in detail in the comparison below. I am comparing only the most important aspects of each ship.

10 points have been allocated for each category and it will be totaled up at the end of the comparison. This is entirely my opinion and analysis and you are free to make your own analysis or suggestions in the comment section below as a good discussion is always appreciated.

DESIGN

Kolkata Class:



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The Kolkata follows the Soviet tradition of having an assortment of weapons at the bow on various raised platforms. It has a 163 m long hull which is retained from its predecessor, Delhi class. It displaces around 6700 tons when fully loaded. The massive size of the ship allows the installation of a wide range of sensors and weapons. The Indians have chosen to leave a lot of deck space for future additions and upgrades.

Type 52D:



This uses essentially the same hull as its predecessor, the Type-52C. Its hull is slightly smaller at 154 m, but it displaces around 7500 tons when fully loaded suggesting that it is packed to the brim with sensors and weapons and there is hardly any space left for additions of new systems.

ELECTRONIC SENSORS

  • RADAR
Kolkata Class:



MF-STAR AESA radar

This is the first Indian warship to use an Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) radar, which has 4 static panels instead of a single rotating panel. This Multi-Function radar also allows for the replacement of a dozen other smaller search, track and fire control radars with a single system. The Israeli MF-STAR has been chosen for this role. It is mounted very high up on a specially built mast.

The MF-STAR operates in the S-band of radio frequency. It consists of 4 panels mounted on each side of the main mast. This radar is capable of performing a variety of functions like

  • Long range surface surveillance
  • Long range 3D air surveillance
  • Gunnery control
  • Target classification
  • Simultaneous multi-engagement support
  • Guidance for active and semi active missiles
These features make the INS Kolkata, the most advanced radar platform in the Indian Navy. The radar is said to be capable of guiding 24 missiles at once to hit 12 targets. This gives the ship an ability to defend itself against saturation air attacks depending on the number of available missiles. The MF-STAR is capable of detecting large aerial targets at distances >250 km and sea skimming cruise missiles at ranges >25 km. The actual values are much higher and are classified. Since Israel is one of the leading makers of radars, I will give them the benefit of doubt and award them with a high rating.



LW-08

Its secondary radar is a Thales LW-08 2D radar which operates in the D-Band. It’s a long range surveillnce radar and provides target indication to weapon control systems.

It scores 10/10 in this category

Type-52D:



Type-348 AESA

The primary radar, the Type-348, is similar in arrangement to the SPY-1 radars of the American AEGIS system. It is a dual band AESA which has 4 square panels mounted on 4 sides of the superstructure. This radar is said to have a range of 350 km and is primarily associated with the HQ-9 SAM. China claims that this radar has the capability to detect stealth fighters like the F-35, but i seriously doubt this claim.



Type 517 radar

The secondary radar on board is the Type-517 A-band VHF air search radar. The biggest problem is that, details of new Chinese radars aren’t available anywhere. But their radars, though powerful, aren’t on par with the western radars.

It scores 8/10 in this category.

WEAPONS

Both these ships rely mainly on vertically launched missiles as their primary weapon and guns as their secondary weapon. The Type52D possesses a Universal Vertical Launcher system with 64 cells which can fire any type of missile from Surface to Air, Surface to Surface to Anti-Submarine missiles. The Kolkata meanwhile makes use of a fixed missile launch VLS which can launch only one type of missile.

  • SURFACE WARFARE
Kolkata Class:



16 BrahMos VLS and a 76 mm gun

India has chosen to make this class excel in surface warfare. Its main armament is a battery of 16 vertically launched BrahMos supersonic long range Anti-Ship missiles. This is by far one of the deadliest missile armament of contemporary warships. It can hit ships at ranges of around 300 km with extreme accuracy. It has 2 flight paths, 120 km range in sea skimming profile or 300 km range in a high altitude with a terminal 40 km sea skimming profile. The missile maintains a speed of Mach 2-3 throughout its flight, which makes it extremely difficult for modern defense systems to shoot it down. There is space behind the 16 VLS cells for a batch of 8 more cells, but has been left empty. I strongly feel that India will install their new Land Attack Cruise Missile, the 1000 km range Nirbhay in that space once it has entered service.



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Secondary surface warfare capability is provided by its 76 mm Oto Melara super rapid gun, which can fire 120 rounds per minute up to a distance of 15 km against surface targets and up to 8 km against aerial targets. This gun is supposed to be extremely effective against low flying aircraft and cruise missiles. The small caliber of this gun limits its range and effectiveness in shore bombardment roles. It is unknown whether India has procured guided shells for use with this gun.

It’s limited 16 missile loadout and the small caliber main gun ensures that it bags 9/10 in this category

Type 52D:



32 x 2 Vertical Launch Cells

The configuration of this ship for surface warfare can be changed based on mission requirements due to its Universal Vertical Launchers which can fire any type of missile. An ideal layout would consist of 16 YJ-12Anti-Ship Missiles (AShM) for surface warfare. The range of the missile is said to vary from 220 km to around 350-400 km depending on flight profile. The only drawback of this missile over BrahMos is that it travels at subsonic speeds at 40 km altitude and reaches supersonic speeds only during the final dive towards its target, which makes it easy to intercept using long and medium range missiles during the subsonic phase. But an alternate high-low flight profile gives it a range of 250-300 km, putting it in the same category as the Indian BrahMos. Nevertheless, a large number of these missiles can be fired which gives it the ability to saturate modern air defenses.

The flexibility of the UVLS allows it to practically carry 32 AShMs on a dedicated surface warfare mission which is a huge advantage over the fixed 16 AShM loadout on INS Kolkata. This would give it the best AShM loadout among contemporary ships, but a balanced load would be 16 AShMs. The best bet against a salvo of YJ-12 missiles would be a layered air defense system.



Secondary surface warfare capability is provided by a 130 mm main gun. This has an effective range of over 25 km against surface targets and can prove to be very useful in shore bombardment missions. Its capability against aircraft and missiles is very limited. The ability to carry a 16-32 missiles and the presence of a large caliber main gun ensure that it gets 10/10 in this category.

  • ANTI-AIR WARFARE
Kolkata Class:

The primary SAM on board the Kolkata is the Barak-8 which has been jointly developed by India and Israel. This 70 km range missile is designed from the start to intercept supersonic cruise missiles which travel a few meters above water which makes it perfect for missile defense. It is housed in specific launchers at the fore and aft of the ship. The total loadout is 32 missiles though there is easily enough space to mount 64 cells of Barak-8 missiles in the future. The Barak-8 s very unique because it has a minimum range of just 0.5 km when similar missiles have a minimum range of 3-4 km. This enables it to intercept missiles very close to the ship and it performs the role of a point defense SAM as well. 12 Barak-8 can be guided at once to intercept



Mockup of Barak-8

It lacks a secondary layer SAM system and all the burden is on the 32 Barak-8 to perform area defense, missile defense and point defense duties. But its current load of 32 Barak-8 is highly insufficient for a destroyer of this size in a modern day conflict. Ships of the same category of other nations carry 48-96 SAMs in comparison.



Ak-630

The role of CIWS is left to the 4 AK-630 6 barreled, 30 mm Gatling guns which is a last ditch defense against missiles. It has an effective range of 4 km. The 76 mm main gun also has excellent anti-air capability and can complement the CIWS with its effective range of 8 km against aerial threats. All these guns are open loop and depend on the sensors and radars mounted on the ship. The advantage is that these sensors can detect targets at long ranges as they are mounted high up and increase the effective range of these guns. If it had the 10 km range Barak-1 like its predecessor, it would have had a 3 layered air defense system with a total of 64 missiles. The current 2 layered air defense system leaves it vulnerable to a saturation attack as it can run out of missiles very fast.

It scores a 7/10 in the CIWS category

It scores a 10/10 in the missile defense category.

It scores a 4/10 in the area defense category.

Type-52D:

This is one category where the Chinese have an edge over the Indians. The Type-52D can carry 64 Surface to Air missiles (SAMs) theoretically on a pure anti-air mission. But practically its loadout will be 32-48 cells of SAMs. Its primary SAM is the HQ-9B which is a long range area defense SAM. It has a slant range of 200 km which gives it a unique advantage over the Kolkata. It can shoot down a missile launch platform like fighter aircraft at 200 km before the fighter can fire its AShMs at it. The ability to destroy missile launch platforms means that it can prevent saturation missile attacks. The only thing that needs to be considered is an Airborne Radar platform like the Ka-31 in order to detect and guide the HQ-9B to hit low flying targets at 200 km. High altitude aerial targets can be detected by the ship’s radar and engaged independently.

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HQ-9B Vertical Launch

The secondary air defense is provided by the HQ-16 SAM which has a range of 50 km. There are rumors that the Chinese are developing a new medium range SAM that can be quad packed in 1 UVLS cell. If this is true, it would allow the Chinese to have a huge number of missiles on board as 32 such medium range missiles can be packed into 8 cells. The ability of the HQ-9B to engage sea skimming missiles at short ranges is seriously doubted. Hence, to complement the HQ-16, the Chinese have installed a short range missile system FL-3000N to deal with sea skimming missiles at ranges of 10 km. An 18 cell FL-3000N launcher is installed on top of the hangar at the aft. This missile is comparable to the American RAM in dimensions and role.



FL-3000N



Type 730 CIWS

The last ditch anti-missile capability is provided by a Type 730 Close in Weapons system. This has a 6 barreled 30 mm Gatling gun which can effectively engage sea skimming missiles at a range of 2 km. It is a closed loop CIWS and unlike the Ak-630, it has its own radar and electro-optical sensors which reduce its dependency on ship borne sensors and allow it to operate independently. This, combined with the missiles give the Type-52D a 4 layer air defense system, which is definitely an advantage over the 2 layered air defense system of the Kolkata.

It scores an 8/10 in the CIWS category

It scores an 8/10 in the missile defense category.

It scores a 10/10 in the area defense category.

  • ANTI SUBMARINE WARFARE
Kolkata Class:

This class has a very well balanced suite of ASW weapons, platforms and sensors. The Sonar is an indigenously developed HUMSA bow sonar and the towed array is yet to be procured. This is a temporary hindrance and it will most likely receive a Thales ATAS soon.


RBU-6000

The main ASW weapon will be its 2 twin 533 mm torpedo tubes which can fire long range, heavyweight torpedoes with a range of up to 40 km. It is complemented by the RBU-6000 rocket launching system. This unique system can launch a variety of ASW rockets fitted with mines, explosives or decoys. 2 launchers with a total of 24 rocket tubes and 192 reloadable rockets are carried. This system has a range of 6 km max which makes it effective against submarines in littoral ad blue water regions. It can also act as a hardkill measure against incoming torpedoes if sufficient warning is there. The other role it can fulfill is that of anti-frogman where it can fire death charges against combat divers who try to sabotage ships.



The dual helicopter hangars

Beyond the horizon ASW capability is provided by ASW helicopters. The Kolkata has 2 large hangars which can support any modern ASW helicopter. Since India is most likely to procure MH-60R as its next ASW helo, 2 of those on a destroyer would make it extremely effective against enemy submarines. Currently it can deploy the Seaking ASW helo which can carry 2 lightweight torpedoes. Overall the Kolkata class has a well-balanced and powerful ASW capability on par with its western equivalents.

It scores 9/10 in ASW

Type-52D:



Bow mounted sonar

The Type-52D has a bow mounted sonar and a towed array sonar. Its main ASW weapon is 2 triple mountings for a total of 6 lightweight torpedo tubes. These have a range of around 15 km. It also has 4, 18 tube ASW rocket launchers, which are non-reloadable and have a range of around 1 km. It is used to fire decoys against incoming torpedoes and to act as last ditch defense against submarines.



Single helicopter hangar and ASW rocket launchers (highlighted)

It is rumored that it can fire a vertically launched ASW missile with a range of 30 km. But this report hasn’t been confirmed and there is no evidence of such a missile. Over the horizon ASW capability is provided by a single ASW helicopter. This offers half the capability of the Kolkata which can house 2 helicopters. Overall, the ASW reach of this ship is comparatively lower than the Kolkata class. It is the only category where the Indian ship dominates.

It scores 7/10 in ASW

CONCLUSION

CATEGORY KOLKATA CLASS TYPE-52D
RADAR 10 8
ANTI AIR WARFARE 7
10

4

8
8

10

ANTI SURFACE WARFARE 9 10
ANTI SUBMARINE WARFARE 9 7
TOTAL 49/60 51/60

The Kolkata class narrowly loses out in the overall rating. Its main strengths lie in its radar systems and ASW. The Type-52D has its strengths in Anti-Air and Anti-Surface warfare. Both are first rate products of their respective nations and truly deserve the attention they get.

A higher rating for the Type-52D doesn’t necessarily mean that it will win against the Kolkata in a one on one engagement. Victory in a conflict depends largely on the training of the crew in maneuvering, damage control and the tactics employed the captain.

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NOTE: I may have missed out a few points and categories in order to keep the article within a reasonable size. Feel free to add to my article in the comments section.
 
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Arleigh Burke Class Equipment Deal Awarded
April 30, 2015

Timken Gears & Services Inc. is being awarded a $62.5 million modification to previously awarded contract to exercise an option to procure two Main Reduction Gear (MRG) shipsets for Arleigh Burke (DDG 51) Class Destroyers.

The MRG is the set of gears that transmit the power from two main propulsion power turbines to the propulsion shaft. Each Arleigh Burke (DDG 51) Class Destroyer has two gear sets, one for each propulsion shaft. The MRGs will be used for DDG 51 Class Guided Missile Destroyers procured in fiscal 2015.

The equipment procured via this acquisition effort will be provided as Government Furnished Equipment to the DDG 51 Class shipbuilders.

Work will mostly be performed in Santa Fe Springs, California and is expected to be completed by October 2017. Fiscal 2015 shipbuilding conversion (Navy) funding in the amount of $62,522,702 will be obligated at time of award and funds will not expire at the end of the current fiscal year.

The Naval Sea Systems Command, Washington, District of Columbia is the contracting activity.

Arleigh Burke Class Equipment Deal Awarded | Naval Today
 
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Ticos and the Burkes!!! No questions!! The country of origin of the other ships doesn't even exist anymore.. and whatever is left are well headed to the scrapyards. Most of 'em anyway!
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