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The West is poorer and ‘it’s very good news,’ says top inequality researcher. ‘There is no reason why for 2 centuries, people from the West should’ve been at the top’​

BYRACHEL SHIN
June 17, 2023 at 12:23 AM GMT+8
Branko Milanovic

American-Serbian economist Branko Milanovic at the Edinburgh International Book Festival at Charlotte Square Gardens on August 22, 2017 in Edinburgh, Scotland.
ROBERTO RICCIUTI/GETTY IMAGES

For Americans, a report saying inequality has dramatically fallen seems absurd. In the West, the gap between the rich and poor has been widening, and the middle class is gradually vanishing. But on a global scale, economic equality has improved to the highest level since the late 19th century, according to new research by one of the world’s foremost experts on the topic. “It’s very good news,” he told Fortune.

“Inequality in individual countries has been generally, in the last 30 years, up,” economist Branko Milanović, said in an interview with Fortune about his findings. “But global inequality at the same time has been going down. So these two things are not contradictory. Simply, global inequality depends on rates of growth of different countries.”

Milanović is one of the world’s foremost experts on global inequality, having previously served as the World Bank’s lead research economist and authored several books on the topic, including Worlds Apart (2005) and The Haves and the Have-Nots (2011). Currently a professor at the City University of New York, Milanović has been a visiting scholar at several universities including Oxford, the London School of Economics, and Johns Hopkins. He published his findings in a large essay for Foreign Affairs titled “The Great Convergence.”

Milanović measures inequality using the Gini coefficient, in which zero is perfect equality and 100 is total inequality. The world’s score was 60.1 in 2018, the most recent year for which data is available, down from 61.8 five years prior in 2013. The global Gini coefficient for each year is usually only calculated a few years later, because it requires over 130 countries’ individual income distributions.
As with so many features of the modern global economy, he says, you have to look at China to really understand it.

A story decades in the making

Global inequality began to fall two decades ago, when China’s economy started to boom, Milanović writes. China’s explosive growth has been a main driver of the global inequality decline, partly because it’s home to over 1 billion humans, nearly a fifth of the world population. Its meteoric rise on the world stage has closed the chasm between the West and the rest of the world, according to Milanović.

There are now more rich people in Asia than there were two decades ago. For the rich or middle class in North America and Europe, this means less purchasing power on a global scale. Especially for the Western middle class, luxuries like international travel or state-of-the-art tech will become increasingly unaffordable.

In his essay, Milanović gives the example of a worker in Germany no longer being able to take a luxurious four-week tour of Thailand, and instead opting for a shorter or cheaper vacation. This is because as more people become wealthy globally, some people are displaced from the global middle or upper-middle class. The wealthiest Westerners will remain the world’s richest, but the middle earners will feel the squeeze of the changing global income distribution. A global economic balancing of the scales is finally eroding the Western hegemony, Milanović said.

“It’s very good news. There is no reason why for two centuries, people from the West should’ve been at the top,” he said. “Now they will not be at the top, and I don’t see that as a catastrophic outcome. I see it as a rather good outcome.”

The current shuffling of the global wealth pyramid is the most significant since the Industrial Revolution, according to Milanović’s research. Because the U.S. is the world’s largest economy, it would be “very difficult” if not impossible for it to match the rate of growth by Asian giants like China, India, and Indonesia. Even China is now so developed that it cannot maintain its previous pace.

All eyes turn to Africa

Of course, global equality does not benefit the populations of each country. In fact, the increasingly even distribution of wealth globally comes as inequality increases in certain Western societies, because now people of neighboring classes (like upper-middle class and upper class) in the West belong to hugely different classes in the worldwide hierarchy. Several decades ago, the upper, upper-middle, and middle classes in the U.S. were among the world’s richest, but that’s no longer the case.

“What’s interesting is that actually [falling global inequality] would reduce the real income of people in lower deciles in the West,” Milanović said. “Even if nothing changes domestically, real incomes will become more polarized.”

The impact of the COVID-19 pandemic, the state of U.S.-China relations, and Russia’s invasion of Ukraine make it difficult to forecast the future of global inequality, Milanović said. However, the spotlight will likely shift from Asia to Africa. Because China’s GDP has already significantly improved, it cannot continue to dramatically drive global inequality down, as such movement requires rapid economic growth.
Africa has the advantage of high birth rates, and thus a growing population and expanding workforce, unlike the rest of the world where birth rates are falling below replacement levels. Most African countries are also poor, meaning they have the potential to increase their wealth considerably and eclipse the growth rate of richer countries. However, Milanović does not have much optimism for that scenario, considering that only six African countries have maintained a 5% growth rate for at least five years since 1950.

“What is new is the discussion of the role of Africa, because Africa is the only continent with an increasing population,” Milanović told Fortune. “In order to actually continue with the decrease in inequality, it will have to grow fast, but that’s fairly unlikely.”

 

The West is poorer and ‘it’s very good news,’ says top inequality researcher. ‘There is no reason why for 2 centuries, people from the West should’ve been at the top’​

BYRACHEL SHIN
June 17, 2023 at 12:23 AM GMT+8
Branko Milanovic

American-Serbian economist Branko Milanovic at the Edinburgh International Book Festival at Charlotte Square Gardens on August 22, 2017 in Edinburgh, Scotland.
ROBERTO RICCIUTI/GETTY IMAGES

For Americans, a report saying inequality has dramatically fallen seems absurd. In the West, the gap between the rich and poor has been widening, and the middle class is gradually vanishing. But on a global scale, economic equality has improved to the highest level since the late 19th century, according to new research by one of the world’s foremost experts on the topic. “It’s very good news,” he told Fortune.

“Inequality in individual countries has been generally, in the last 30 years, up,” economist Branko Milanović, said in an interview with Fortune about his findings. “But global inequality at the same time has been going down. So these two things are not contradictory. Simply, global inequality depends on rates of growth of different countries.”

Milanović is one of the world’s foremost experts on global inequality, having previously served as the World Bank’s lead research economist and authored several books on the topic, including Worlds Apart (2005) and The Haves and the Have-Nots (2011). Currently a professor at the City University of New York, Milanović has been a visiting scholar at several universities including Oxford, the London School of Economics, and Johns Hopkins. He published his findings in a large essay for Foreign Affairs titled “The Great Convergence.”

Milanović measures inequality using the Gini coefficient, in which zero is perfect equality and 100 is total inequality. The world’s score was 60.1 in 2018, the most recent year for which data is available, down from 61.8 five years prior in 2013. The global Gini coefficient for each year is usually only calculated a few years later, because it requires over 130 countries’ individual income distributions.
As with so many features of the modern global economy, he says, you have to look at China to really understand it.

A story decades in the making

Global inequality began to fall two decades ago, when China’s economy started to boom, Milanović writes. China’s explosive growth has been a main driver of the global inequality decline, partly because it’s home to over 1 billion humans, nearly a fifth of the world population. Its meteoric rise on the world stage has closed the chasm between the West and the rest of the world, according to Milanović.

There are now more rich people in Asia than there were two decades ago. For the rich or middle class in North America and Europe, this means less purchasing power on a global scale. Especially for the Western middle class, luxuries like international travel or state-of-the-art tech will become increasingly unaffordable.

In his essay, Milanović gives the example of a worker in Germany no longer being able to take a luxurious four-week tour of Thailand, and instead opting for a shorter or cheaper vacation. This is because as more people become wealthy globally, some people are displaced from the global middle or upper-middle class. The wealthiest Westerners will remain the world’s richest, but the middle earners will feel the squeeze of the changing global income distribution. A global economic balancing of the scales is finally eroding the Western hegemony, Milanović said.

“It’s very good news. There is no reason why for two centuries, people from the West should’ve been at the top,” he said. “Now they will not be at the top, and I don’t see that as a catastrophic outcome. I see it as a rather good outcome.”

The current shuffling of the global wealth pyramid is the most significant since the Industrial Revolution, according to Milanović’s research. Because the U.S. is the world’s largest economy, it would be “very difficult” if not impossible for it to match the rate of growth by Asian giants like China, India, and Indonesia. Even China is now so developed that it cannot maintain its previous pace.

All eyes turn to Africa

Of course, global equality does not benefit the populations of each country. In fact, the increasingly even distribution of wealth globally comes as inequality increases in certain Western societies, because now people of neighboring classes (like upper-middle class and upper class) in the West belong to hugely different classes in the worldwide hierarchy. Several decades ago, the upper, upper-middle, and middle classes in the U.S. were among the world’s richest, but that’s no longer the case.

“What’s interesting is that actually [falling global inequality] would reduce the real income of people in lower deciles in the West,” Milanović said. “Even if nothing changes domestically, real incomes will become more polarized.”

The impact of the COVID-19 pandemic, the state of U.S.-China relations, and Russia’s invasion of Ukraine make it difficult to forecast the future of global inequality, Milanović said. However, the spotlight will likely shift from Asia to Africa. Because China’s GDP has already significantly improved, it cannot continue to dramatically drive global inequality down, as such movement requires rapid economic growth.
Africa has the advantage of high birth rates, and thus a growing population and expanding workforce, unlike the rest of the world where birth rates are falling below replacement levels. Most African countries are also poor, meaning they have the potential to increase their wealth considerably and eclipse the growth rate of richer countries. However, Milanović does not have much optimism for that scenario, considering that only six African countries have maintained a 5% growth rate for at least five years since 1950.

“What is new is the discussion of the role of Africa, because Africa is the only continent with an increasing population,” Milanović told Fortune. “In order to actually continue with the decrease in inequality, it will have to grow fast, but that’s fairly unlikely.”

I've seen New York City, I have seen filthy rich people and dirt shit poor people.

USA is a land of extremes.
 
But many non white slaves are so loyal to their white masters, they love their masters more than their masters love themselves, they and their ancestors have lived under their western masters for too long and had long taken it for granted that their masters should and will always be their masters.
 
In his essay, Milanović gives the example of a worker in Germany no longer being able to take a luxurious four-week tour of Thailand, and instead opting for a shorter or cheaper vacation. This is because as more people become wealthy globally, some people are displaced from the global middle or upper-middle class. The wealthiest Westerners will remain the world’s richest, but the middle earners will feel the squeeze of the changing global income distribution. A global economic balancing of the scales is finally eroding the Western hegemony, Milanović said.

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But many non white slaves are so loyal to their white masters, they love their masters more than their masters love themselves, they and their ancestors have lived under their western masters for too long and had long taken it for granted that their masters should and will always be their masters.

for starters you could cut off all exports to the West :enjoy:
 
in west 90% of poor or homeless is because they chose to ..cos they are addicts or lazy or useless

There is work every where for anybody to earn a decent living..US unemployment rate is below 3%
There are Govt programs and welfare ,to support for those who are in financial distressed ,lower income,disabled or old/have health issues

But some countries use kids and prisoners to work in the factories or even projects abroad and pay nothing !
 
Case in point, containing China doesn't work, US should try to work hard to improve itself and try to be competitive.



i am against commie welfare in US blue cities

and against any kind of international trade barriers, sanctions, etc... since it hurts everyone




however, none of US's policies can compare to the damage xi's policies have caused


US has helped uplift EU, japan, korea, taiwan, singapore

king commie xi:










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for starters you could cut off all exports to the West :enjoy:
Already reduced greatly, now China's biggest trading partner is ASEAN, in general, China's trade with non western countries are booming, with western countries is declining, the overall trade and surplus keep rising year on year.


But some countries use kids and prisoners to work in the factories or even projects abroad and pay nothing !
This some countries including US

 
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for starters you could cut off all exports to the West :enjoy:
But the first part is accurate. In the 1950's and 1960's many relatively (by today's stands) unskilled workers who were feeding metal sheets to a machine to bend and assemble them into cars in Detroit were getting such high wages that typically a man would work in factory, wife would stay home and care for 3 or 4 children, buy a nice home, car and go to Disneyland. Now only the top 1% or so of earners can do that. A median worker could do those then.
 
What is funny is the anti-western rhetoric Chinese on PDF especially when they invoke "the ancestors". My guy you dress like them, all suit and tie, your largest partners are the west, Chinese were so chummy with the west in the past, it was as if they were inseparable up until this Xi guy came in. Then they took a U-turn and started this anti-west rhetoric. Which is stupendously Ironic if you take a look at the Chinese flag and see the hammer and sickle of the old Soviet Revolution and revolutionary Marxism.

Tone it down, the western cultural influence and imitations are the first that should be removed if you want to preach others.
 
What is funny is the anti-western rhetoric Chinese on PDF especially when they invoke "the ancestors". My guy you dress like them, all suit and tie, your largest partners are the west, Chinese were so chummy with the west in the past, it was as if they were inseparable up until this Xi guy came in. Then they took a U-turn and started this anti-west rhetoric. Which is stupendously Ironic if you take a look at the Chinese flag and see the hammer and sickle of the old Soviet Revolution and revolutionary Marxism.

Tone it down, the western cultural influence and imitations are the first that should be removed if you want to preach others.
Typical Indian slave mentality, failing to see that article is talking about western global domination. Human civilizations take elements from all cultures but the two centuries old global western domination is an anomaly, Indians believe this western global domination will last for ever and ever?
 
Typical Indian slave mentality, failing to see that article is talking about western global domination. Human civilizations take elements from all cultures but the two centuries old global western domination is an anomaly, Indians believe this western global domination will last for ever and ever?
But one thing I don't understand is the extreme adherence to Western dress styles and culture by modern Chinese. Every important official seems to wear a suit and tie, housing developments have Western style names and try to create copies of Western cityscapes, people are doing weddings in Western style, gown and all. Why this infatuation in copying everything Western? China has beautiful ancient civilization, and it is sad to see it all wither away.

 

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