‘The truth of 1971 can be reached to all through films’

[UKBengali]

If it was not your home why did you fight to keep it

To use as colony for resources.

 

[Rusty]

Imran Khan does.

Make up your mind.
Are we bad people who don't care about you or we good people who do care about you?

Personally I am moving from the "I care about you" to "Go swim in your samp and leave us alone" camp

 

[UKBengali]

Make up your mind.
Are we bad people who don't care about you or we good people who do care about you?

Personally I am moving from the "I care about you" to "Go swim in your samp and leave us alone" camp

Why you talking about something else now?
Unlike you, IK is the leader of Pakistan and he wants good relations with BD. BD is open to Pakistanis that are willing to acknowledge the mistreatment of the 1947-1971 period.

 

[Rusty]

Why you talking about something else now?
Unlike you, IK is the leader of Pakistan and he wants good relations with BD. BD is open to Pakistanis that are willing to acknowledge the mistreatment of the 1947-1971 period.

Then I guess you will never having good relations with us as we only acknowledge reality and not swamp fairy tales.

 

[UKBengali]

Then I guess you will never having good relations with us as we only acknowledge reality and not swamp fairy tales.

You are not important but IK is. He matters, you do not.

He has already talked about the mistreatment and discrimination and I can see a full and unconditional apology coming soon to allow normal relations with BD.

 

[Rusty]

You are not important but IK is. He matters, you do not.

He has already talked about the mistreatment and discrimination and I can see a full and unconditional apology coming soon to allow normal relations with BD.

I'm actually pretty important, ask all the swamp dwellers

IK has expressed regret of 71, as has Musharaf and most Pakistanis agree with it.
Remember, we also hung Buhtto, the guy responsible for it.

What you want is for us to bend over for you, but you are forgetting that we are not Indians. We will not kowtow to Easterners fairy tales.

 

[UKBengali]

I'm actually pretty important, ask all the swamp dwellers

IK has expressed regret of 71, as has Musharaf and most Pakistanis agree with it.
Remember, we also hung Buhtto, the guy responsible for it.

What you want is for us to bend over for you, but you are forgetting that we are not Indians. We will not kowtow to Easterners fairy tales.

BD requires a full and unconditional apology and IK will most likely give that.
He knows that making amends with BD is in Pakistan best interests.

 

[khair_ctg]

Geography is Kadr (Fate) - Ibn-i Haldun (The true Father of the Modern Political Science. Machiavelli wrote his epic "The Prince" based on his work Mukaddema)

Historically speaking, Bengal has always been an invader's paradise!!! For example, only 17 Turkic horsemen just rode through Bengal and conquered it without chopping a single head off!!! The British East India Company defeated 70K strong Army of the Nawab of Bengal with only 200 British soldiers aided by 2,800 South Indian mercenaries!!! The entire Army of the Nawab stood idle due to the treachery of the top generals, ministers, bureaucrats, Marwari businessmen etc. The entire command structure of the current BD Army has been destroyed as soldiers rampantly kill their officers with a mindset like - soldiers are brothers to one another, we want the blood of the officer!!! If the Burmese Army marches even up to to Dhaka not a single folk will fire a single shot with a single air gun to protest!!!! As such, I would rather say Pak has somehow saved her skin with a minimal loss!!! BD isn't worth fighting for...

that is factually not correct. the number of Turkic soliders under Bakhtiyar Khilji numbered in the thousands with most accepted count of around 10,000. if you want sources, can provide.

you are right though that nothing near the main force was required to topple Lakhsman Sena in Nadia, the Senas' second capital city. the earliest known narrative says that only 200 cavalrymen-strong detachment from the main force got through the city disguising as horse dealers and captured the Lakhsman Sena palace, moments before which king fled to the forests. it's a legend that Bakhtiyar Khilji moved so fast only 17 horsemen could keep up.

Khilji was under Ghurid command; the Ghuris which established Turkic Muslim rule in Delhi for the first time ever. And 10 years after that, Khilji entered Bengal.

As for the Muhajir folks, 90% of them were killed including babies, kids, elderly, women etc. And, it's in million with the total ethnic cleansing. Every Muhajir household went through what Mujib faced during his elimination. Even the serious Indian analysts mentioned that in their books. One such book is, Inside Bangladesh today; an eye-witness account by Basant Chaterjee (1973). In fact the military crackdown on the 25th March was done to put a stop to it, but it was too late too little....

you are absolutely right. and Kader Siddiqui was one of those butchers. see the video of the butcher himself doing what he probably got very skilled at at that point. the likes of Kader Siddiqui, Hemayat Uddin and Moni Singh even have background serving in East Pakistan Rifles and Bengal Regiment of Army. these were premium recruitment targets of KGB that was actively operating in East Pakistan throughout the 60s, and may have even traveled to Soviet Union for training.

i have accounts of my own family members in East Pakistan around that time (very late 60s) being caught interrogated by pro-socialist ragtags. the only questions they asked were to determine if they were non-bengalis. they are told to prove they were bengalis, by making them speak Bengali, and tell which gaon/gram (village) they were from. it's a relief they were all 'pure' Bengali. there were women in the group too. Allah knows what would've happened if they found just one non-Bengali family member. later it was found that it was mainly a leftist 'workers'' group acting on some rumours of some dispute between a couple of Bengalis and couple of West Pakistani officers.

 

[SQ8]

It looks like @Oscar has deleted my post.

They were fighting for power hungry Bhutto and Dictator Ayub Khan and for the feudal elites of Pakistan.

The numbers havent been verified by anyone other than in BD - atrocities were committed unspeakable; but there js no need to exaggerate the numbers or accounts beyond what was acknowledged by neutral sources.

Bhutto didn’t care, he was planning for separation since the 60s. Ayub Khan was the true racist responsible for the nail in the coffin.

 

[Black_cats]

The numbers havent been verified by anyone other than in BD - atrocities were committed unspeakable; but there js no need to exaggerate the numbers or accounts beyond what was acknowledged by neutral sources.

Bhutto didn’t care, he was planning for separation since the 60s. Ayub Khan was the true racist responsible for the nail in the coffin.

Thanks for honest explanation. Most honest and neutral sources has put the number between .3 million to 1 million. Still it is a significant number.

 

[bluesky]

Historically speaking, Bengal has always been an invader's paradise!!! For example, only 17 Turkic horsemen just rode through Bengal and conquered it without chopping a single head off!!!

Inverted stupid, read the account written by Minhazuddin Siraj in his "Taj-ul-Nasiri", by Charles Stewert in his "History of Bengal", by Buchanan in his "History of Bangalah" and a dozen others before you again distort the historical facts. Bakhtier Khiliji's expedition to Nadia in 1201 CE comprised more than 12,000 horse-mounted cavalry troops. At least a total of 200,000 non-Bengali Turkic-Afghan Muslim immigrants entered and domiciled in Bengal within a few months after this expedition. It was only ten years after the same group of people of Sultan Muhammed Ghori occupied Delhi.

Now, ask yourself where are the descendants of these Turkic-Afghan and other non-Bengali immigrants. Do you think they went back to the stone land of Afghaniya? Talk rational, idiot!! You are talking as if you are the father of these immigrants and no one in Bengal is their descendant. Ignorance is a blessing for people like you who love to twist the facts to suit his false statement.

 

[Nilgiri]

Inverted stupid, read the account written by Minhazuddin Siraj in his "Taj-ul-Nasiri", by Charles Stewert in his "History of Bengal", by Buchanan in his "History of Bangalah" and a dozen others before you again distort the historical facts. Bakhtier Khiliji's expedition to Nadia in 1201 CE comprised more than 12,000 horse-mounted cavalry troops. At least a total of 200,000 non-Bengali Turkic-Afghan Muslim immigrants entered and domiciled in Bengal within a few months after this expedition. It was only ten years after the same group of people of Sultan Muhammed Ghori occupied Delhi.

Now, ask yourself where are the descendants of these Turkic-Afghan and other non-Bengali immigrants. Do you think they went back to the stone land of Afghaniya? Talk rational, idiot!! You are talking as if you are the father of these immigrants and no one in Bengal is their descendant. Ignorance is a blessing for people like you who love to twist the facts to suit his false statement.

Welcome back to forum!

 

[Rusty]

BD requires a full and unconditional apology and IK will most likely give that.
He knows that making amends with BD is in Pakistan best interests.

best intereste... oh man, I burst our laughing!
man, you are the first person to ever make me burst out laughing on this forum.

Yeah, our people don't like to eat swamp fish so we have no intrest.

The best you will get is "regret" and we have already expressed that. Now for your best intreset you better applogozie for killing all those Urdu speaking Pakistanis and giving the world fish curry

 

[UKBengali]

best intereste... oh man, I burst our laughing!
man, you are the first person to ever make me burst out laughing on this forum.

Yeah, our people don't like to eat swamp fish so we have no intrest.

The best you will get is "regret" and we have already expressed that. Now for your best intreset you better applogozie for killing all those Urdu speaking Pakistanis and giving the world fish curry

Like I say you do not matter but IK does.
He would be interested in learning lessons from BD achievements in social and economic areas.
There is going to be a consumption boom in BD as it has reached the magic 5K PPP level now and huge opportunities are there for Pakistani agricultural exports to BD.