What's new

THE GULF RISING: Defense Industrialization in Saudi Arabia and the UAE

The SC

ELITE MEMBER
Joined
Feb 13, 2012
Messages
32,233
Reaction score
21
Country
Canada
Location
Canada
Executive Summary

Because of their sizeable financial resources, close relations with Washington, and privileged access to the top transatlantic defense companies, Saudi Arabia and the UAE are in a unique position to explore opportunities and make important strides in the military-industrial domain that other countries can simply ill-afford to make.
Moreover,over the past decade, globalization and the information technology (IT) revolution in military naffairs (RMA) have opened up the international defense market and made it less exclusive, allowing Saudi Arabia and the UAE to overcome some of the key scientific and technological challenges that accompany the building and sustaining of indigenous defense industries.
For Saudi Arabia and the UAE, the creation of modern military industries that could compete in the international defense market promotes a set of domestic and foreign policy interests. Both countries seek to develop their arms manufacturing capabilities to address a range of perceived internal and external national security threats, reduce their political dependence on the United States and other influential powers that dominate the global defense market, diversify their economies, affirm their regional status and prestige, enhance their military credibility, and finally augment their diplomatic leverage.
Self-sufficiency is not a realistic goal for Saudi Arabia and the UAE. But in some limited security and defense areas, including spare parts, ammunition, and potentially shipbuilding (for the UAE), both countries have made steps forward. In addition, they now design, manufacture, and modernize military vehicles, communication and electronic systems, and unmanned systems including drones. They have also significantly upgraded their maintenance, repair and overhaul (MRO) capabilities in the aerospace industry.
Because of Saudi and Emirati improvement in such capabilities, the old adage of “Arabs don’t do maintenance” no longer reflects reality.
Furthermore, both countries’ military personnel have drastically enhanced their military training and competency and can now operate some of the most sophisticated weapons systems. They have also steadily increased their defense spending as part of their gross domestic product (GDP) and successfully absorbed some technology transfers.
The development of strategic partnerships with Washington, London, and Paris and some of the leading global defense firms over the years has offered Saudi Arabia and the UAE the opportunity to aggressively pursue defense industrialization. But out of all enabling factors, it is unquestionably both countries’ large and sophisticated offset programs, which have emphasized technology transfer, that have contributed the most to
their effort to develop their indigenous defense capabilities. Saudi Arabia and the UAE are projected to be among the top twenty global military offset markets for the next decade. Through these offset programs, Saudi Arabia and the UAE have been able to connect their domestic defense sectors with global defense producers and enable them to acquire basic industrial knowledge and know-how. The results are mixed but in some areas encouraging, as a number of indigenous industries have been established in Riyadh, Abu Dhabi,
and other locations in joint ventures with global defense industry giants.
Yet these accomplishments notwithstanding, embarking on a successful path to domestic military industrialization could, depending on the desired objectives, require nothing short of a total state effort and a societal transformation.
Political stability, national leadership, and relative abundance of financial capital in Saudi Arabia and the UAE have been crucial to getting military industrialization off the ground, but to develop, rationalize, and sustain the process for the long term both countries stand a better chance of succeeding if they implement the following set of recommendations:

Clarity of Purpose and Strategy:

Saudi and Emirati military industrialization must have a more precise strategic and tactical purpose.
High-tech and small-scale is the best way forward for both countries, but Saudi Arabia and the UAE ought to think more seriously about ways to effectively integrate the process of local arms production into the broader context of national defense policy and arms acquisition.

Defense Production Policy:

Riyadh and Abu Dhabi must formulate clear defense production policies and create overarching bodies for long-term defense planning. This is important for consistency between short-term decisions and
long-term plans.

Organization of Defense:

Riyadh and Abu Dhabi must organize their national defense establishments by creating credible and
authoritative institutions as well as solid legal and administrative frameworks. If defense ministries in Riyadh and Abu Dhabi assume key defense-related powers and refrain from relegating them to kings or military
commanders, military industrialization would profit.

Technology Transfer:

A diverse approach to technology transfer that addresses actual needs and realities would be most beneficial to Saudi Arabia and the UAE. Riyadh and Abu Dhabi should continue to adopt a deliberate policy of
training their nationals and encouraging them to learn skills on the job.

Research & Development and Science & Technology:

Saudi Arabia and the UAE should develop a more robust local R&D capability that would have more direct interaction with the users—the armed forces and foreign clients. But advances in R&D have to correspond to
S&T levels in user organizations. Both countries should also create more dynamic linkages between science institutions (universities, parks, institutes, etc.,) and the defense industry.

Private Sector Participation:

Saudi Arabia and the UAE need to ensure a greater role for the private sector in funding the enterprise of
military industrialization. Otherwise defense production would remain wholly state-owned, which works against the streamlining of defense industrial activity.

Offset Programs:

Saudi Arabia and the UAE should further integrate their offset programs into national strategies for industrial
development. In order to reduce their dependency on external technology suppliers, both countries must maximize the effect of job creation.

Maintenance, Repair, and Overhaul:

Because Saudi and Emirati technicians and engineers, as few as they are, are still unable to maintain
modern US and other Western weapons systems without the help of foreign workers, further focus on and investment in MRO capabilities is needed in Saudi Arabia and the UAE.

Bilateral or GCC-wide Military Industrial Cooperation:

Saudi Arabia and the UAE would benefit from developing a joint MRO base and an integrated or complementary services and production infrastructure. This would be hugely profitable economically, as it would allow for maximal exchange of experience and skills, as well as fuller, more prolonged use of facilities
and qualified manpower. Implications for US Policy Efforts by Saudi Arabia and the UAE over the past decade to upgrade their national defense capabilities by purchasing arms and pursuing domestic military industrialization contribute to US strategic plans and interests in the Middle East and are generally consistent with the broader US commitment to expanding its global partnerships and strengthening its friends and allies’ defense capabilities. However, should current political uncertainties in US-Gulf relations persist and, more dramatically, a strategic rift between Washington and Riyadh develop in the future due to major policy differences, intensified defense industrialization in the Gulf could carry risks to US strategic interests in the Middle East.
One of the motivations of Saudi Arabia and the UAE to pursue military industrialization is to reduce their political dependence on the United States. Unilateralism on the part of US friends and allies can sometimes undermine security interests, as evidenced by Israel’s unilateral military actions in Lebanon, Syria, and the Palestinian Territories.
The United States has often favored and called for regional solutions to many of the Middle East’s security problems, and Washington would be relieved if Saudi Arabia and/or the UAE could step up and use their own defense and diplomatic resources to defuse a potential crisis in the future.
However, if another major crisis, a la 1990-91 Gulf War, occurs and the Saudis and/or the Emiratis decide to act on their own to protect their interests outside the confines of the US-Gulf partnership, US strategic interests might be at risk.
While Saudi Arabia’s current capacity to act more independently from the United States is lower, its
willingness will only increase should relations with Washington fail to improve and its defense industrialization effort develop at a more rapid pace. This equation is almost reversed with the UAE. Abu Dhabi’s capacity to act more independently from the United States is higher (its armed forces are more technically proficient and
combat-ready than the Saudi military) and will only strengthen with time, but its willingness to do so is decreased because it has a stable relationship with Washington and much prefers to work with US-led, international coalitions. This explains why Abu Dhabi is interested in strengthening its partnership with NATO and vice versa. Like Saudi Arabia, the UAE has regional leadership ambitions, but it seeks to lead by example, and its foreign policy outlook tends to be more global and cosmopolitan than Saudi Arabia’s.
The sustainability of the US-Gulf partnership is a joint responsibility, despite Washington’s senior status. The Arab Gulf countries, and Saudi Arabia and the UAE in particular, have obligations too.
Building closer security relationships and integrating national defense capabilities (most importantly in air and missile defense, and intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance) should be more pressing priorities for Arab Gulf leaders. Interoperability is also not a one-way street. Washington has been adamant about
its Gulf partners maintaining compatibility with US defense systems. However, often times, when these partners request the purchase of US items that would uphold US-GCC and inter-GCC interoperability, their requests are denied by The sustainability of the US-Gulf partnership is a joint responsibility, despite
Washington’s senior status.
The Arab Gulf countries, and Saudi Arabia and the UAE in particular, have obligations too. Building closer security relationships and integrating national defense capabilities (most importantly in air and missile defense, and intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance) should be more pressing priorities for Arab Gulf
leaders. Interoperability is also not a one-way street. Washington has been adamant about its Gulf partners maintaining compatibility with US defense systems. However, often times, when these partners request the purchase of US items that would uphold US-GCC and inter-GCC interoperability, their requests are denied by
Washington. The two major reasons for this are strict export controls and a US Israel policy of Qualitative Military Edge (QME), which is designed to maintain Israel’s regional military supremacy and uphold its deterrence posture. In the Gulf partners’ view, the problem is not limited to US rejection but also to Washington’s slow or lacking response. Sometimes it takes years to get an answer from Washington for a specific military purchase, and by the time a response is provided the price as well as the needs and circumstances of the Gulf partners would have changed.
But Saudi Arabia and the UAE shouldn’t rely solely on US cooperation. There is ample room for defense-industrial cooperation and collaboration between Riyadh and Abu Dhabi and other GCC capitals, be it in manpower, skilled expertise, manufacturing and/or MRO, that can address some deficiencies. The problem is that politics, rivalry, and prestige have stood in the way of such a goal. The United States has been pushing the GCC to think more collectively for some time, but disagreements among its members, be it on Syria,
Egypt, or Iran, are real. So long as political discord reigns in the GCC, the US-Gulf partnership, with its defense-industrial component, will never meet its true potential and remain limited to bilateral
affairs between the United States and individual GCC members.

Conclusion

Military industrialization in Saudi Arabia and the UAE is a natural consequence of both countries’ ambitions to affirm their rising regional status as well as their efforts over the years to modernize their societies and diversify their economies. The pace, scope, and effectiveness of Saudi and Emirati military industrialization efforts will continue to depend, in many respects, on broader societal change in both countries. But it would be misleading to say that the Saudi and Emirati political systems, because of their restrictive attributes—including secrecy, excessive centralization, exclusionism, corruption, and lack of accountability—totally obstruct military industrialization. What matters most when it comes to successful military industrialization
is intent, vision, resources, and a set of sound political, economic, and military industrial strategies.
Saudi Arabia and the UAE still struggle with the formulation of such strategies, but they are gradually improving and learning from the top defense companies in the world, by way of collaboration and partnership.
It bears repeating that military industrialization in Saudi Arabia and the UAE is a long-term process. Indeed, it is likely to take anywhere between five to fifteen years before either country can effectively export military items en masse and increasingly rely on its own local manpower and arms production capabilities to address national security needs. But Riyadh and Abu Dhabi are careful not to rush the process, and they have
every reason to be confident about the future.

https://www.files.ethz.ch/isn/182154/The_Gulf_Rising.pdf

This is a long and comprehensive paper on the subject of the thread (you can follow the link to the full pdf). It is a 2012 paper and many things have moved on since..Also bear in mind that this article concerns the Defense industrialization with the USA, there are also other paths taken by KSA and the UAE, Like China, South Korea,, Ukraine, Turkey and Pakistan, to name a few..
Any more inputs are welcome..
 
Last edited:
Executive Summary

Because of their sizeable financial resources, close relations with Washington, and privileged access to the top transatlantic defense companies, Saudi Arabia and the UAE are in a unique position to explore opportunities and make important strides in the military-industrial domain that other countries can simply ill-afford to make.
Moreover,over the past decade, globalization and the information technology (IT) revolution in military naffairs (RMA) have opened up the international defense market and made it less exclusive, allowing Saudi Arabia and the UAE to overcome some of the key scientific and technological challenges that accompany the building and sustaining of indigenous defense industries...

Sir, I've been reading these "research papers" about KSA's industrial and defense related internal growth for a decade and a half now. I met a guy at a dinner party in Texas a few years ago and he was one of the advisers to either the King of KSA or the Deputy Crown / King. After a few drinks, he opened up and it was hilarious to hear.

This guy was a scholar on these topics and had gone to KSA to advise them as an expert. So per him, the leadership in KSA doesn't really care for the people. They just want to remain the kings and the princess. Every time some public related concerns pop open, they issue some special benefits for the Arab population (KSA Citizens) and everyone shuts up for the next 5 years. Everyone's chilled and there is no one in a true leadership capacity and aggressiveness to do anything. So nothing gets done, but a lot of money is spent on media hype and "sit visits" showing construction that never ends.

I know for a fact that the US had advised KSA last decade about the Oil issue they have been facing for the past three years and due to which their system and economy is going down the drain pretty fast. What did they do to avoid this serious damage to their economy when we told them its coming 7 years ago? Absolutely Nothing!! The US also urged them very hard that our success (America's) is based on our ability to bring the top talent from across the world, so if they want to diversify their system, they'll have to open up their immigration and give educated, top talent to come to the KSA to shape up their economy. Well, that advise was given 10 years ago. They recently announced some changes to open immigration and that won't take affect till 2020. This article is just one of many talking about these gigantic defense complex they can build. But with who, when and how, no one knows. All talk, no walk or action. Thanks
 
There is a lot going on in KSA, maybe you are not aware of it.. there is no economy going down the drain, and there are so many JV's being realized with many top worldwide corporations.. as for the talent pool KSA has currently more than 100 000 students pursuing either PhD or post doctoral studies in many advanced technological fields, and they have been sending students for at least the last decade just to give some sense of proportions as for the talent pool.. Also KSA with its stability and strength of its economy is attracting a lot of foreign investments. These are all facts you can google or research..Since this is mainly a military forum you won't hear about KSA's other achievements, like its high tech cities, research facilities and top of the line Universities, to name a few.. in brief KSA is on the right path and rising, also a lot of Arab countries are rising with KSA and the UAE..This is just the beginning of the rise, things will get better and in quite a fast time, give it a decade or so..

A lot of things have changed, nonetheless one key point that needs to be highlighted is, that when buying cutting edge tech, sometimes offset programs become an impediment.

Here is a good read about it, yes some have risks of corruption but it depends on the type of offsets..

Offset agreement

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offset_agreement
 
I personally do not believe either country has the industrial base and trained manpower to establish a military industrial sector. However everyone must start somewhere and these countries have petrodollars to kick start things. Best of luck hope to see some Arab designed and built stuff coming off the production line in near future.
 
There is a lot going on in KSA, maybe you are not aware of it.. there is no economy going down the drain, and there are so many JV's being realized with many top worldwide corporations.. as for the talent pool KSA has currently more than 100 000 students pursuing either PhD or post doctoral studies in many advanced technological fields, and they have been sending students for at least the last decade just to give some sense of proportions as for the talent pool.. Also KSA with its stability and strength of its economy is attracting a lot of foreign investments. These are all facts you can google or research..Since this is mainly a military forum you won't hear about KSA's other achievements, like its high tech cities, research facilities and top of the line Universities, to name a few.. in brief KSA is on the right path and rising, also a lot of Arab countries are rising with KSA and the UAE..This is just the beginning of the rise, things will get better and in quite a fast time, give it a decade or so..



Here is a good read about it, yes some have risks of corruption but it depends on the type of offsets..

Offset agreement

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offset_agreement

You need to calm down, What I meant is since the OP was published, things have move on for the better.

Secondly, I have personally worked on Offset Contracts, so I know what I'm talking about.

Thank You
 
You need to calm down, What I meant is since the OP was published, things have move on for the better.

Secondly, I have personally worked on Offset Contracts, so I know what I'm talking about.

Thank You
What calm has to do with this, I am very calm and rational, I just pointed out a source so maybe you can enlighten us on the impediments in the offset contracts or programs when buying cutting edge technologies, we are all here to learn something interesting.. Thanks in advance..
 
What calm has to do with this, I am very calm and rational, I just pointed out a source so maybe you can enlighten us on the impediments in the offset contracts or programs when buying cutting edge technologies, we are all here to learn something interesting.. Thanks in advance..

Just as an example, the APG 63 radar for the F15SA. Offset = ZERO
 
Just as an example, the APG 63 radar for the F15SA. Offset = ZERO
Shouldn't we take the whole of the F-15SA with wings and cockpit production as well as the modernization of all F-15S to F-15-SA in KSA?
 
Shouldn't we take the whole of the F-15SA with wings and cockpit production as well as the modernization of all F-15S to F-15-SA in KSA?
So what is the offfset with this program? MRO?
 
What I just mentioned and most probably some more..
MRO is different, it is not "Offset."

MRO = Maintenance, Repair, and Overhaul. Basically having the capability to maintain the birds in country.

This is Offset:

The Tawazun Economic Program, which is overseen by the Tawazun Economic Council, is UAE’s industrial participation program that seeks to derive economic value from the country’s extensive defense procurement program.

Since 1992, Tawazun Economic Program has worked actively to diversify the UAE economy by creating new ventures in sectors of national importance. The program has partnered with international contractors, brought investments and latest technologies into UAE, generated knowledge based jobs for UAE nationals and created business opportunities for UAE companies.

The program has six key objectives:

  1. Build critical national defense industry
  2. Create knowledge based economy
  3. Diversify UAE’s economy by growing the country’s Industrial base
  4. Create business opportunities for UAE private sector
  5. Generate high value exports
  6. Produce employment opportunities for UAE Nationals in high-tech fields
A foreign defense contractor supplier to UAE, with over USD 10 million in contract value over a five year period, must participate in the Tawazun Economic Program. The foreign contractor generates obligations as a result of sale of goods and services to UAE. Tawazun Economic Program has established formal guidelines that outline the focus areas, mechanics and process to fulfil these obligations. The aim of Tawazun Economic Program is to continue to catalyze new projects that fulfil the objectives listed above.

https://tec.tawazun.ae/the-program/
 
Last edited:
MRO is different, it is not "Offset."

MRO = Maintenance, Repair, and Overhaul. Basically having the capability to maintain the birds in country.

This is Offset:

The Tawazun Economic Program, which is overseen by the Tawazun Economic Council, is UAE’s industrial participation program that seeks to derive economic value from the country’s extensive defense procurement program.

Since 1992, Tawazun Economic Program has worked actively to diversify the UAE economy by creating new ventures in sectors of national importance. The program has partnered with international contractors, brought investments and latest technologies into UAE, generated knowledge based jobs for UAE nationals and created business opportunities for UAE companies.

The program has six key objectives:


  1. Build critical national defense industry
  2. Create knowledge based economy
  3. Diversify UAE’s economy by growing the country’s Industrial base
  4. Create business opportunities for UAE private sector
  5. Generate high value exports
  6. Produce employment opportunities for UAE Nationals in high-tech fields
A foreign defense contractor supplier to UAE, with over USD 10 million in contract value over a five year period, must participate in the Tawazun Economic Program. The foreign contractor generates obligations as a result of sale of goods and services to UAE. Tawazun Economic Program has established formal guidelines that outline the focus areas, mechanics and process to fulfil these obligations. The aim of Tawazun Economic Program is to continue to catalyze new projects that fulfil the objectives listed above.

https://tec.tawazun.ae/the-program/
You can find the six point equivalence in the transfer of technology for the F-15SA, the wings and cockpit are made in KSA with Saudi hands, brains and composite materials made in KSA..The upgrading of the F-15SA will be made in KSA with Saudi hands and brains again.. so maybe 5 points out of 6 in this project alone.. what do you think?
 
You can find the six point equivalence in the transfer of technology for the F-15SA, the wings and cockpit are made in KSA with Saudi hands, brains and composite materials made in KSA..The upgrading of the F-15SA will be made in KSA with Saudi hands and brains again.. so maybe 5 points out of 6 in this project alone.. what do you think?

Sir, then why are the F15's being flown in from the US? As far as I know, maybe they have the capability to be repaired, but being built from scratch, I don't think so, but you could provide evidence to back up your claim.
 
Turkey's ASELSAN, Saudi TAQNIA form joint venture


Turkish defense systems producer ASELSAN and Saudi firm TAQNIA have established a new company in Saudi Arabia

home > Turkey, world, todays headlines 27.12.2016

thumbs_b_c_f4c5ffc28f1a54213f1a278748f45e8e.jpg




ANKARA

The Turkish Armed Forces Foundation company ASELSAN said on Tuesday it had established a joint venture with Saudi firm TAQNIA in Saudi Arabia.

In a statement to the Borsa Istanbul, Turkey's main stock exchange, the company said that the registration of its joint defense company SADEC was completed.

The new company has a $6 million capital and will operate in Saudi Arabia in the areas of radar, electronic warfare and electro-optical systems, according to the statement.

The Turkish company also said that the new joint company would have a positive impact on its income.

ASELSAN announced on Nov. 23 of last year that it had signed a provisional deal with Saudi firm TAQNIA on the establishment of a joint venture in Saudi Arabia.

ASELSAN, a leading Turkish defense systems producer, is ranked 58th on a list of the world's top 100 defense giants in 2016, compiled by the prestigious U.S. weekly, Defense News.

http://aa.com.tr/en/todays-headlines/turkeys-aselsan-saudi-taqnia-form-joint-venture/715224
 

Back
Top Bottom