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Turkey tells Syria: make reforms now

As Syrian protests turned increasingly violent in recent days, Turkey urged the country’s administration to make reforms “without delay,” an adviser to the Turkish president has said.

“Waiting for the protests to end to make reforms is the wrong approach. Necessary reforms should be made now, not later. Leaders should be brave,” Erşat Hürmüzlü, adviser to President Abdullah Gül on the Middle East, told Hürriyet Daily News & Economic Review in an interview on Monday.

Syria is a very important country for Turkey, Hürmüzlü said, recalling that this country is in a significant process of transformation. “The system, stability and demands of the Syrian people are all equally important for us," he said. The Syrian leader should apply immediately “whatever they believe in without waiting for other accounts,” Hürmüzlü said.

Citing indirectly the aspect of the Syrian administration that resists reforms, Hürmüzlü said some defects could occur in the administrative systems such as corruption or being privileged. “Yet, leaders should push them,” he said.

Syrian authorities accused fundamentalists and "armed gangs" of aiming to incite unrest in the country after the demonstrations turned violent in recent days.

Giving Turkey as an example for its recent transformation, Hürmüzlü said: “We, as Turkey, faced our mistakes and made reforms. We changed our minds rather than laws. Economic and social-cultural changes follow that. Changing the vision is more important than changing laws. Implementers of law may resist, however, a complete change of mind can pave the reforms,” he said.

Hürmüzlü drew attention to the differences between Syria and other Arab countries. “Similarly, the people of the region are pouring into the streets not for food, but for their dignity. The difference is that the foreign policy and domestic policy of other Arab countries, such as in Egypt, was kept separate. The expectations of the people were not reflected in foreign policies,” he said.

However, foreign policy and people’s expectations almost overlap in Syria, Hürmüzlü said, adding that this was the reason Syria was the last country to witness protests, he added.

The adviser is optimistic that the protests would not end with a change of regime. “The reforms can respond to the demands of the Syrian people. It would be an easy transformation if the Syrian administration can make significant reforms on human rights and democracy and find solutions in the struggle against corruption,” Hürmüzlü said.

“There have been coups and monarchic republics. A normal birth of regimes can only come with election polls,” he said, adding that the systems in the Middle East were created very late, 20 years after the Cold War had finished. He recalled Turkey also suffered similar troubles, but transformed easier.

He ruled out that foreign countries’ intervention caused uprisings in Arab countries. “Some say that these uprisings came one after another because some circles pushed the button for the natural resources of these countries. Saying someone pushed the button is an insult for people of the region,” he said. Hürmüzlü described the reaction of those people as a “burst of anger, which was suppressed for many years by fear.”

Asked about the criticisms against Turkey for not voicing a stronger stance on democracy for countries such as Saudi Arabia and Bahrain, which also have been facing revolts, Hürmüzlü said Turkey would not impose anything on other countries. People of the region could observe what Turkey had been doing in the name of democracy and they could inspire, he said. “Turkey can’t be a sub-contractor.”

For the case of Bahrain, Gulf states not only sent troops to the conflict-hit country, but also supported it financially with $10 billion to help Bahrain make reforms, Hürmüzlü said. “States in the region should solve their problems within the region. They should not seek solutions outside the region by delegating to powerful countries as sub-contractors,” he said.

Asked about Turkey’s shift in policy regarding NATO intervention in Libya, Hürmüzlü said Turkey opposed a military occupation to change regime in Libya. Prime Minister Erdoğan’s remarks ruling out NATO intervention in Libya were to prevent an illegitimate military occupation of the country, he said.

”We don’t want Libya to turn into an Iraq. No country or countries independently can decide to intervene in another state. That decision should be taken within the scope of international laws.”

Hürmüzlü said Ankara’s attitude to NATO’s role in Libya should be considered as “before and after the U.N. Security Council decision on the issue.”

“The U.N. decision presented international legitimacy,” he said.

Turkey tells Syria: make reforms now - Hurriyet Daily News and Economic Review
 
The Conflict in Syria as it Relates to Turkey | News,Updates,and Discussions

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This is a thread where members can post news about various events in Syria that you feel effect Turkey. For example if an incident happens at the border you can post it here so that it can be discussed.


These are some older threads in relation to syria:

ISIL gives 3 days for guards to evacuate the tomb

What will be TAF's reaction in case the tomb gets attacked

A fighter is shotdown near the border

Aleppo Clashes Threaten to Spill into Turkish Territory

Turkey Opens Border to Armenians from Syria

Turkey's military plan to rescue its soldiers in Syria revealed

Turkish tomb in Syria becomes flashpoint for conflict

YouTube blocked in Turkey

Security leak linked with Syrian regime, al-Qaeda
 
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Turkish Artillery Returns Fire into Syrian Territory
March 27,2014

An official said Turkish artillery returned fire into Syrian territory after a shell from fighting in the neighboring country landed on a road near a Turkish border

The governor’s office for Turkey’s Hatay province said Thursday no one was hurt by the shell, which was fired during fighting between Syrian regime and opposition forces over the predominantly Christian Armenian town of Kassab. The shell strayed three kilometers inside Turkey.

It office said Turkish artillery units near the border retaliated for the shelling, firing at the region it originated from.

Turkey frequently retaliates against stray fire from Syrian government or opposition forces.

The latest move comes days after Turkey shot down a Syrian fighter jet that it said violated Turkey’s airspace.

Türkiye'den Suriye topraklarına top atışı - CNN TÜRK
Turkey retaliates for stray Syrian shell | The Times of Israel
 
well why doesnt Saudi arab /turkey just bomb syrain headquarters or annihilate syrian air force and be over with it. a squardon of typhoons can do it in few sorties.
the civil war is killing too many people with no end visible
 
What's the enemies position?
How far out and strength?
Do they have anything heavier then the usual terrorist shit?
 
What's the enemies position?
How far out and strength?
Do they have anything heavier then the usual terrorist shit?
From what i know they have technicals, some tanks, mortars, atgms, and some A.A guns.
 
What's the largest caliber you can go on technicals?
Would anything above 20mm rip off?
 
ISIL was planning to bomb the Suleyman Sah Tomb however some ISIL members believed that it would be a risky and necessary move.
this is retarded...

They're making threats like mindless zombies but when push comes to shove they find logic?

Cowards
 
this is retarded...

They're making threats like mindless zombies but when push comes to shove they find logic?

Cowards


The vid of threatening an attack on the tomb wasn't from high ranked members, if it was from the 'Emir' al Baghdadi it would have been a very high possibility that they attack.

Besides quit playing badass.
 

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