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The BRICS Group Announces New Members, Expanding Its Reach

The BRICS Group Announces New Members, Expanding Its Reach​

Argentina, Egypt, Ethiopia, Iran, the U.A.E. and Saudi Arabia have been invited to join the club of emerging nations, strengthening its role as a geopolitical alternative to Western-led forums.


President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva of Brazil, President Xi Jinping of China, President Cyril Ramaphosa of South Africa, Prime Minister Narendra Modi of India and Sergei Lavrov, the foreign minister of Russia, walk after posing for a picture.

The BRICS club of emerging nations announced plans to add new members on Thursday.Credit...Pool photo by Alet Pretorius

President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva of Brazil, President Xi Jinping of China, President Cyril Ramaphosa of South Africa, Prime Minister Narendra Modi of India and Sergei Lavrov, the foreign minister of Russia, walk after posing for a picture.

Lynsey Chutel
By Lynsey Chutel
Reporting from the BRICS summit in Johannesburg.
Aug. 24, 2023Updated 5:16 a.m. ET
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The five-nation BRICS club of emerging economies that came together to tilt the international order away from the West announced plans Thursday to expand its membership, feeding concerns about a growing global divide.
The group said that Argentina, Egypt, Ethiopia, Iran, the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia had been invited to join, and that their membership would begin in January.
The BRICS group announced the expansion at a summit in South Africa that attracted a level of global interest rarely seen since its first meeting in 2009. Back then, the group’s name was BRIC, an acronym coined by economists at Goldman Sachs to describe a group of developing nations with rapidly growing economies and populations: Brazil, China, India and Russia. South Africa would join a year later, adding an “S” to the acronym.
It is now a formalized group that seeks to challenge the dominance of Western-led forums like the Group of Seven and the World Bank. But leaders of the member states have repeatedly said they do not want direct competition with these groupings, but rather to bring diversity amid increasing polarization.

“This membership expansion is historic,” China’s leader, Xi Jinping, said at a briefing with the other leaders. “It shows the determination of BRICS countries for unity and cooperation for the broader developing world.”

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Mr. Xi, in a suit, sits in front of a row of other officials in suits. President Ramaphosa is shown on screens in the foreground.

China’s leader, Xi Jinping, called the membership expansion “historic.”Credit...Pool photo by Gianluigi Guercia

Mr. Xi, in a suit, sits in front of a row of other officials in suits. President Ramaphosa is shown on screens in the foreground.

That polarization has been deepened by Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and strained relations on economic and security issues between the United States and China. Smaller countries caught between the world’s wealthier nations have faced pressure to pick sides or, in some cases, occupy a middle ground in an effort to get the best deal from the competing nations.

“The entire global south is feeling the constraints, the limits of the current system and looking for other options,” said Cobus van Staden, a researcher with the China Global South Project.
American officials have sought to play down the impact of the group’s expansion plans. On Tuesday, Jake Sullivan, the White House national security adviser, told reporters that the Biden administration is “not looking at the BRICS as evolving into some kind of geopolitical rival to the United States or anyone else.”

He said that the United States had “strong positive” relations with Brazil, India and South Africa, adding that “we will continue to manage our relationship with China; and we will continue to push back on Russia’s aggression.”
Despite a public show of unity at the tightly controlled conference, the BRICS members brought divergent views on expansion. China had pushed for a rapid expansion, seeing in the grouping a platform to challenge American power. Several leaders warned against a return to a divisive global order reminiscent of the Cold War, and were careful not to alienate partners in Europe and North America.
Mr. Xi, in a speech read by a subordinate at the summit earlier this week, had said: “International rules must be written and upheld jointly by all countries, rather than dictated by those with the strongest muscles.”
Brazil’s president, Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, said he favored expanding the BRICS’ access to capital. South Africa, the smallest economy, lobbied for greater African representation.

An oil tank farm, on a large swathe of sand in the middle of calm blue waters.


An oil tank farm in Ras Tanura, Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia is the BRICS club’s biggest trading partner in the Middle East.Credit...Christophe Viseux for The New York Times

An oil tank farm, on a large swathe of sand in the middle of calm blue waters.

Some of the countries that were invited to join have considerable practice walking a fine diplomatic line with the West. Saudi Arabia, the BRICS club’s biggest trading partner in the Middle East, has cultivated ties with China and has demonstrated independence from American interests despite its longstanding security relationship with the United States.

Egypt, politically and geographically straddling Africa and the Middle East, has built strong relationships with Russia and China, while maintaining its ties to the United States.

For Argentina, facing yet another economic crisis and diminishing foreign reserves, membership in the BRICS could be a financial lifeline. During the summit, Mr. Lula has championed the creation of an alternative trading unit that would ease emerging nations’ dependence on the strong U.S. dollar. Argentina has already begun repaying some of its loans in the Chinese currency, analysts said, though it is unclear how much relief it will gain.
Iran applied to join BRICS in June as part of its efforts to strengthen economic and political ties with non-Western powers and to demonstrate that the West’s efforts to isolate the country have failed. The country, which holds the world’s second-largest gas reserves and a quarter of the oil reserves in the Middle East, has stayed afloat by selling discounted oil to China, among other maneuvers.
The United Arab Emirates, which was also invited as a formal member, had already joined the BRICS’ New Development Bank in June.
David Pierson contributed reporting from Hong Kong, Edward Wong from Washington, and Isabella Kwai from London.
Lynsey Chutel covers Southern Africa from the Johannesburg bureau and also writes about Africa for The Times's international morning newsletters. She previously worked for Foreign Policy, Quartz and the Associated Press. More about Lynsey Chutel
 
The big difference between BRICS and the West is that most of the western allies operate on a system of shared values of collective defence and prosperity. The BRICS nations all have differing, and in some cases even opposing values. Brazil is looking for economic expansion and stability, Russia is looking for im*perial*!stic conquest, India is looking for geopolitical troubles , China is looking for geopolitical harmony and the leaders of South Africa are just looking for more money to embezzle from the state.
 
Yes...

But what these people want is to be wealthy, advanced, and developed.

Now, just use logic, how for them to achieve their dream?

If they are just believing to be great, but don't want to work hard to achieve it, then it's useless.

Trade?

More likely they will be slaughtered by China.

In the past we already had a Non-Bloc Organization... the result today?

None.

So, what is the difference this time?

Just prepare to be disappointed.


Sorry guys, for telling the harsh truth. There's nothing great about these people. They are living in fantasy. They are dreaming and their ego won't accept reality. They are childish.

If these people want to achieve great success, they should be disciplined hard.

If I'm the leader of the BRICS, I won't accept a country who doesn't want to be disciplined and work hard. And I definitely don't want to accept childish behavior.

Being soft like a school teacher in USA? Well, you already see the result of how these USA children grow up and are spoiled.
I don't think these countries could be as rich as European countries. But if an organization could reduce risk of being exploited by west or sinking deeper, why not join in it? China can also get profit from Brics from strategy perspective. Of course China will lose money to aid other countries. But as long as US loses more, it's not a problem. The only thing I'm nervous is India. I don't want India to use China's money to develop itself.
 
Unless if these countries are willingly to run like China, they will success.

If not, they just want the China's money to be wasted and then blame China for giving them the money.

China can indeed only reduce the influence of colonialism on African countries, and internal problems can only be solved by themselves.

Generally speaking, Eastern Africa has developed better in recent years.

Most countries in Africa have not experienced the stage of classical civilization, and they are not as good in personal skills, organization, and discipline. So the development of Africa needs more time.
 
India couldn't stop the expansion of BRICS. It'll have even less ability to drag things down being one of 11. India will eventually leave on its own if it can't play an effective Trojan Horse for White Masters.

The sooner China can kick India out the better.
 
just a big expensive terror feudal tinpot dictator dinner party

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India couldn't stop the expansion of BRICS. It'll have even less ability to drag things down being one of 11. India will eventually leave on its own if it can't play an effective Trojan Horse for White Masters.

Who did you add ? Saudi Arabia, UAE, Egypt
It is more like adding more countries that can torpedo China.
 
Who did you add ? Saudi Arabia, UAE, Egypt
It is more like adding more countries that can torpedo China.

China sold drones, aircraft, artillery and ICBMs among other things to those countries. Only India likes playing loyal colonial subjects to White Masters.
 
BRICS is like a fine dish, like Macaroni cheese. It has Pasta Cheese Milk nutmeg salt and black pepper. If you add sugar, fish and aubergine it then is no longer Macaroni cheese but a disgusting mishmash of inedible ingredients that make you puke.
That appears to be the destiny of this "new" BRICS.
USA domination is all dishes of the world except Cuba, North Korea and Iran.

And they eat them all very well.

BTW mac cheese is not a fine dish, it's junk food.

It looks like someone is butt hurt :enjoy:

Egypt, Saudis, UAE are closer to America than India ever was
If you see what bought ruling elites of Egypt, KSA and UAE, they likely buy a lot more Made in USA than Made in india.
But if you see what bought common people of those countries, likely it was more Made in India.

But the people who take decisions are ruling elites and aren't common people.

It doesnt matter how big is your GDP if you only sells goods and services for the poors, you can't persuade powerful people with that.
But if you sell the best healthcare and best luxury products like USA does, then you can rule over all the kings of this planet.
 
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The BRICS Group Announces New Members, Expanding Its Reach​

Argentina, Egypt, Ethiopia, Iran, the U.A.E. and Saudi Arabia have been invited to join the club of emerging nations, strengthening its role as a geopolitical alternative to Western-led forums.


President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva of Brazil, President Xi Jinping of China, President Cyril Ramaphosa of South Africa, Prime Minister Narendra Modi of India and Sergei Lavrov, the foreign minister of Russia, walk after posing for a picture.

The BRICS club of emerging nations announced plans to add new members on Thursday.Credit...Pool photo by Alet Pretorius

President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva of Brazil, President Xi Jinping of China, President Cyril Ramaphosa of South Africa, Prime Minister Narendra Modi of India and Sergei Lavrov, the foreign minister of Russia, walk after posing for a picture.

Lynsey Chutel
By Lynsey Chutel
Reporting from the BRICS summit in Johannesburg.
Aug. 24, 2023Updated 5:16 a.m. ET
Sign up for The Interpreter newsletter, for Times subscribers only. Original analysis on the week’s biggest global stories, from columnist Amanda Taub. Get it with a Times subscription.
The five-nation BRICS club of emerging economies that came together to tilt the international order away from the West announced plans Thursday to expand its membership, feeding concerns about a growing global divide.
The group said that Argentina, Egypt, Ethiopia, Iran, the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia had been invited to join, and that their membership would begin in January.
The BRICS group announced the expansion at a summit in South Africa that attracted a level of global interest rarely seen since its first meeting in 2009. Back then, the group’s name was BRIC, an acronym coined by economists at Goldman Sachs to describe a group of developing nations with rapidly growing economies and populations: Brazil, China, India and Russia. South Africa would join a year later, adding an “S” to the acronym.
It is now a formalized group that seeks to challenge the dominance of Western-led forums like the Group of Seven and the World Bank. But leaders of the member states have repeatedly said they do not want direct competition with these groupings, but rather to bring diversity amid increasing polarization.

“This membership expansion is historic,” China’s leader, Xi Jinping, said at a briefing with the other leaders. “It shows the determination of BRICS countries for unity and cooperation for the broader developing world.”

Image
Mr. Xi, in a suit, sits in front of a row of other officials in suits. President Ramaphosa is shown on screens in the foreground.

China’s leader, Xi Jinping, called the membership expansion “historic.”Credit...Pool photo by Gianluigi Guercia

Mr. Xi, in a suit, sits in front of a row of other officials in suits. President Ramaphosa is shown on screens in the foreground.

That polarization has been deepened by Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and strained relations on economic and security issues between the United States and China. Smaller countries caught between the world’s wealthier nations have faced pressure to pick sides or, in some cases, occupy a middle ground in an effort to get the best deal from the competing nations.

“The entire global south is feeling the constraints, the limits of the current system and looking for other options,” said Cobus van Staden, a researcher with the China Global South Project.
American officials have sought to play down the impact of the group’s expansion plans. On Tuesday, Jake Sullivan, the White House national security adviser, told reporters that the Biden administration is “not looking at the BRICS as evolving into some kind of geopolitical rival to the United States or anyone else.”

He said that the United States had “strong positive” relations with Brazil, India and South Africa, adding that “we will continue to manage our relationship with China; and we will continue to push back on Russia’s aggression.”
Despite a public show of unity at the tightly controlled conference, the BRICS members brought divergent views on expansion. China had pushed for a rapid expansion, seeing in the grouping a platform to challenge American power. Several leaders warned against a return to a divisive global order reminiscent of the Cold War, and were careful not to alienate partners in Europe and North America.
Mr. Xi, in a speech read by a subordinate at the summit earlier this week, had said: “International rules must be written and upheld jointly by all countries, rather than dictated by those with the strongest muscles.”
Brazil’s president, Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, said he favored expanding the BRICS’ access to capital. South Africa, the smallest economy, lobbied for greater African representation.

An oil tank farm, on a large swathe of sand in the middle of calm blue waters.

An oil tank farm in Ras Tanura, Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia is the BRICS club’s biggest trading partner in the Middle East.Credit...Christophe Viseux for The New York Times

An oil tank farm, on a large swathe of sand in the middle of calm blue waters.

Some of the countries that were invited to join have considerable practice walking a fine diplomatic line with the West. Saudi Arabia, the BRICS club’s biggest trading partner in the Middle East, has cultivated ties with China and has demonstrated independence from American interests despite its longstanding security relationship with the United States.

Egypt, politically and geographically straddling Africa and the Middle East, has built strong relationships with Russia and China, while maintaining its ties to the United States.

For Argentina, facing yet another economic crisis and diminishing foreign reserves, membership in the BRICS could be a financial lifeline. During the summit, Mr. Lula has championed the creation of an alternative trading unit that would ease emerging nations’ dependence on the strong U.S. dollar. Argentina has already begun repaying some of its loans in the Chinese currency, analysts said, though it is unclear how much relief it will gain.
Iran applied to join BRICS in June as part of its efforts to strengthen economic and political ties with non-Western powers and to demonstrate that the West’s efforts to isolate the country have failed. The country, which holds the world’s second-largest gas reserves and a quarter of the oil reserves in the Middle East, has stayed afloat by selling discounted oil to China, among other maneuvers.
The United Arab Emirates, which was also invited as a formal member, had already joined the BRICS’ New Development Bank in June.
David Pierson contributed reporting from Hong Kong, Edward Wong from Washington, and Isabella Kwai from London.
Lynsey Chutel covers Southern Africa from the Johannesburg bureau and also writes about Africa for The Times's international morning newsletters. She previously worked for Foreign Policy, Quartz and the Associated Press. More about Lynsey Chutel
for the record : i am not opposed to competition in the world-leader arenas.
just so long as it's peaceful competition.
 
If you see what bought ruling elites of Egypt, KSA and UAE, they likely buy a lot more Made in USA than Made in india.
But if you see what bought common people of those countries, likely it was more Made in India.

But the people who take decisions are ruling elites and aren't common people.

It doesnt matter how big is your GDP if you only sells goods and services for the poors, you can't persuade powerful people with that.
But if you sell the best healthcare and best luxury products like USA does, then you can rule over all the kings of this planet.

You should tell that to the CCP bots who think somehow all the BRICS partners are going to fight the West for China

You have a garbage thread here
BRICS Emerges as the World's Largest GDP Bloc, Overtaking G7, Propelled by China's Rapid Expansion
 

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