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Rohingya refugess in Ruili,Yunnan

After that, foreigners will again give China labeled as "oppression of religious freedom," the human rights hat:moil:

westerners lol.? Where are the human rights in East ukraine ,where west sponsored junta is mass murdering east ukrainian people?

**** the west.
 
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Aren't the Rohingya's from Rakhine state, on Burma-Bangladesh border? Why do they need to go all the way accross Myanmar to take refuge in China, when Bangladesh a Muslim country is just across the border?
 
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Aren't the Rohingya's from Rakhine state, on Burma-Bangladesh border? Why do they need to go all the way accross Myanmar to take refuge in China, when Bangladesh a Muslim country is just across the border?

Because Indian installed puppet dictator Hasina does not allow them in, under Indian instruction. Bangladesh need to make a comprehensive deal with Myanmar under supervision of ASEAN, OIC and China, so that we can take them in. We cannot afford to have bad relation with Myanmar, we need to solve this Rohingya issue with Myanmar at whatever cost.

Bengal Sultanate:
Places and Structures of Ancient Bengal: Paintings and Pictures
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Arakan used to be a vassal of Bengal Sultanate for centuries, long before it was conquered by Myanmar king around 1785. This happened because of the fall of Bengal to British in 1757 and the British did not look after Bengal's Vassals, but after 41 years, it was taken over by the British in 1826. British in 1947 decided to give Arakan to Burma.

The Rise of Islam and the Bengal Frontier, 1204–1760
"The reigns of Sultan ‘Ala al-Din Husain Shah (1493–1519) and his son Nasir al-Din Nusrat Shah (1519–32) are generally regarded as the “golden age” of the Bengal sultanate.[90] In Husain Shah’s reign, for example, Bengali Hindus participated in government to a considerable degree: his chief minister (vazīr), his chief of bodyguards, his master of the mint, his governor of Chittagong, his private physician, and his private secretary (dabīr-i khāṣ) were all Bengali Hindus.[91] In terms of its physical power and territorial extent, too, this was the sultanate’s high tide. In the second year of his reign, 1494, Sultan Husain Shah extended the kingdom’s northern frontiers, invading and annexing both Kuch Bihar (“Kamata”) and western Assam (“Kamrup”).[92] Writing around 1515, Tome Pires estimated this monarch’s armed forces at a hundred thousand cavalrymen. “He fights with heathen kings, great lords and greater than he,” wrote the Portuguese official, “but because the king of Bengal is nearer to the sea, he is more practised in war, and he prevails over them.”[93] The king thus managed to make a circle of vassals of his neighbors: Orissa to the southwest, Arakan to the southeast, and Tripura to the east.[94]

But the palmy days of independent Bengal were numbered. Even as the Husain Shahi dynasty was taking root, Babur, a brilliant Timurid prince, was rising to prominence in Central Asia and Afghanistan. In 1526, resolving to make a bid for empire in North India, Babur led his cavalry and cannon through the Khyber Pass and overthrew the Lodi dynasty of Afghans, the last rulers of a vastly shrunken and decayed Delhi sultanate. As a result of this triumph, defeated Afghans moved down the Gangetic plain and into the Bengal delta, where they were hospitably received by Nasir al-Din Nusrat Shah.[95] Thus the span of a century from the death of Jalal al-Din Muhammad (d. 1432) to that of Nasir al-Din Nusrat Shah (d. 1532) witnessed a wholesale transformation of Bengal’s political fabric. In the reign of the former sultan, descendants of old Turkish families had still formed the kingdom’s dominant ruling group. But in the following century the scope of Bengali participation at all levels of government continually widened, while the throne itself passed from Indo-Turks, to East Africans, to an Arab house, and, finally, to Afghans."
 
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India does not want good relation between Bangladesh and Myanmar.
How exactly does providing refuge to rohingyas have any effect on Myanmar-Bangladesh relationship? I suppose there are lot of other issues between Bangladesh and Myanmar as it is..
You still haven't given me the proof of Indian involvement in Bangladesh's handling of the rohingya issue..
 
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How exactly does providing refuge to rohingyas have any effect on Myanmar-Bangladesh relationship? I suppose there are lot of other issues between Bangladesh and Myanmar as it is..
You still haven't given me the proof of Indian involvement in Bangladesh's handling of the rohingya issue..

I am not here to give you proof of anything, believe what you want to believe. Thanks for the conversation.
 
They sure look Indian. But how did you conclude from the pic that they look like untouchables?



So you're here simply to voice your baseless thoughts?:pop:

Because they are dark skin. Light skin indians are desirable so I doubt these people are elite class.
 
Because they are dark skin. Light skin indians are desirable so I doubt these people are elite class.

Skin tone has nothing to do with our caste system. And caste system is the source of our untouchables, not skin tone.
 
They are similar to majority Bangladeshi's, converts from Dalit. They belong in Bangladesh among their own people. Bangladesh should take all Rohingya refugees, it is their natural homeland.

The problem is that Bangladesh is not wealthy either to take this burden.

So from the Humanitarian point of view, China could try to help as much as possible.
 
The problem is that Bangladesh is not wealthy either to take this burden.

So from the Humanitarian point of view, China could try to help as much as possible.

Thank you for the sentiment, we appreciate Chinese Humanitarian help. But I don't believe this has to be permanent arrangement.

If you look at post #20, the British take over of Bengal in 1757 started the trouble. The British were not attentive to our near abroad concerns, so our Arakan vassal was attacked and taken over by Bamar/Burmans in 1785. The British waited 41 years to take over Arakan after winning the 1st Anglo-Burmese war. Then in 1947, not only did the British gift our territory to India on the West (please look at the maps) in the name of Hindu majority, they also gifted Arakan to Myanmar. That really is the root of the problem. Just like the West did their magic with Ottoman empire, they did the same here in this part of the world as well.

Note the British did not partition off Burma for its minorities, instead Burma was returned intact as a whole to the majority group together will all other minority areas.

The problem today is we are under Indian aggression and subjugation and they make sure we cannot perform well economically. If we can become a part of NATO like military alliance with China with mutual defense pact, only then India will back off and loose their strangle hold on Bangladesh. Also this will help us get fair share of water from the international common rivers that flow in from India.

Bangladesh has a relatively small land for its population, but most of the land is fairly fertile. So if we have a network of mega cities, most of the population can become urban, they can live and work in these low cost manufacturing hubs. The small land size also mean the infrastructure will not cost too much. An ideal future scenario for us would be to become like a bigger version of Singapore, but instead of one big city, we will have a network of them in different parts of the country. With this kind of development, we should easily be able to accommodate a few million more people, whether they are Rohingya or economic migrants who moved elsewhere due to lack of opportunity. So the first condition is that we need to end Indian interference with help of China some time in the future and then after that we are fairly sure that the economy will take off quickly as we have no other major problems or obstacles on the way.
 
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Thank you for the sentiment, we appreciate Chinese Humanitarian help. But I don't believe this has to be permanent arrangement.

If you look at post #20, the British take over of Bengal in 1757 started the trouble. The British were not attentive to our near abroad concerns, so our Arakan vassal was attacked and taken over by Bamar/Burmans in 1785. The British waited 41 years to take over Arakan after winning the 1st Anglo-Burmese war. Then in 1947, not only did the British gift our territory to India on the West (please look at the maps) in the name of Hindu majority, they also gifted Arakan to Myanmar. That really is the root of the problem. Just like the West did their magic with Ottoman empire, they did the same here in this part of the world as well.

Note the British did not partition off Burma for its minorities, instead Burma was returned as a whole to the majority group together will all other minority areas.

The problem today is we are under Indian aggression and subjugation and they make sure we cannot perform well economically. If we can become a part of NATO like military alliance with China with mutual defense pact, only then India will back off and loose their strangle hold on Bangladesh. Also this will help us get fair share of water from the international common rivers that flow in from India.

Bangladesh has a relatively small land for its population, but most of the land is fairly fertile. So if we have a network of mega cities, most of the population can become urban, they can live and work in these low cost manufacturing hubs. The small land size also mean the infrastructure will not cost too much. An ideal future scenario for us would be to become like a bigger version of Singapore, but instead of one big city, we will have a network of them in different parts of the country. With this kind of development, we should easily be able to accommodate a few million more people, whether they are Rohingya or economic migrants who moved elsewhere due to lack of opportunity. So the first condition is that we need to end Indian interference with help of China some time in the future and then after that we are fairly sure that the economy will take off quickly as we have no other major problems or obstacles on the way.
Have any bd leaders propose the alliance idea before?
 
Have any bd leaders propose the alliance idea before?

To tell the truth I don't know for sure. From 1975 onward during BNP rule we had fairly close relationship with China. Awami League and Ershad's military rule is associated with closeness to India:
Bangladesh–China relations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Currently Awami League led by Hasina has been in power Since 2009 and just legitimized her rule for next 5 years in a sham election in January under gun point with direct Indian help. The opposition boycotted the election and tried to protest, but thousands were killed and even today they are being hounded and killed and most disappear without trace. A common method of disappearance is to tie cement block with corpse and dump them in nearby lake or river, which is plentiful in Bangladesh. Bangladesh is today a large open air prison like Gaza.

One of the top ten businessman (the richest people in the country) made a comment to his relative (a friend of mine) that Bangladesh is today 100% run by RAW (Indian Intelligence). They protect Hasina and ensure any threat is eliminated. You should also take a look at these posts to see how we got to this situation:
Agartala Conspiracy confession, what does it mean for our history | Page 28
The man who broke Pakistan and created Bangladesh: Serazul Alam Khan | Page 14

There are only two other people in this forum who you can get reliable inside story about what is going on in Bangladesh and what our majority people want for their future @M_Saint and @idune . I would request these two posters to tell you whether and how much Bangladesh would like a full military alliance with China and kick out Indian agents from our soil.
 

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