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i agree with you i only want that everyone should be united in Pakistan because its a very hard time for PAKISTAN , foreign powers are trying to divide us........ remeber brother we have to solve our issues by ourselves so that our enemy can not get any advantage of this.....PAkistan zindabad...... united we stand

Yes InshAllah but first we have to identify who is the enemy ?? there is a huge division and disagreement over here if it is it raw , cia , mosad ?? or is it Al qaeda , TTP , Taliban , religious extermists and fundamentalists , LET , JEM , other hudreds of religious tanzeems waghera waghera ...!!?
 
Yes InshAllah but first we have to identify who is the enemy ?? there is a huge division and disagreement over here if it is it raw , cia , mosad ?? or is it Al qaeda , TTP , Taliban , religious extermists and fundamentalists , LET , JEM , other hudreds of religious tanzeems waghera waghera ...!!?
its necessary to identify who is terrorist and extremist but it is also important that we should differentiate between freedom fighters and terrorist......if we want to adopt USA's defination then every one fighting against their interests is terrorist but when it defines according to Islam then this defination changes......Actually USA and western media make these things so much confusing that now ordinary muslim is not able to differentiate between them
 
Jihad is a farz ("fard" to our arabized brethren) and Masajid are open to be used for whatever purpose deemed necessary - Do you want the state telling us what religion's content should be? If each and every side is armed and ready to use these arms, we can then let god decide who his favorites are, if they win then surely god favors them, right? and if they lose then, well, they lose.

So what happens to Pakistan?? Whatever is the will of god, of course. No worries.

Jihad technically means to struggle, within and without. Now the meaning and implications could change depending on what the struggle is for and how the struggle is done. Don't ridicule the concept just because it hasn't been implemented in its true spirit. I do Jihad everyday. For me Jihad is introspection, I look within myself and struggle to make myself better than I was the day before. Now if you want to curse me for this Jihad, go for it.
 
Jihad technically means to struggle, within and without. Now the meaning and implications could change depending on what the struggle is for and how the struggle is done. Don't ridicule the concept just because it hasn't been implemented in its true spirit. I do Jihad everyday. For me Jihad is introspection, I look within myself and struggle to make myself better than I was the day before. Now if you want to curse me for this Jihad, go for it.
Mr Jihad also means fighting in the way of ALLAH with weapons don't use Jihad against Nafs to avoid Jihad with Sword or weapons
 
Mr Jihad also means fighting in the way of ALLAH with weapons don't use Jihad against Nafs to avoid Jihad with Sword or weapons

That's right, Mister Mabs - you got that? Mister!

This is for all you diehard Adventure/Danger Tourists:


A guide to dying in Pakistan

Fahd Husain


Bzzzzzzzz....That is the sound of death hovering over you. Take your pick: drone or dengue mosquito. Both ways, you are done for.

Death is the trend in Pakistan. You can choose from a wide variety of locales: Karachi, Lahore, Peshawar, Badin, North Waziristan. There is plenty of death to go around for all of you. There is the quick ka-boom if you want to experience the Reaper from the skies; there is the bloodsucking kind in Lahore if you desire to hold out for a while in a netted hospital bed before slipping into the hereafter; or if you want a surprise end, try walking a bazaar in say D I Khan. Who knows you might just meet a teenaged suicide bomber. Then of course, there is the famed drill-induced death that awaits you in Karachi. Chop, chop, chop and gunnybagged for your final journey. Karachi beckons if you are into this kind of stuff.

It is all happening here. If you’ve got the wish, we’ve got the means.


If you liked ‘Saw’, or ‘Saw 2’, you will absolutely love Pakistan. We have got Jigsaws crawling all over the place, and they do not even need funny masks. Decapitation? We got specialists. Death by your own bodyguard? Yep, done that. Severed limbs and noses? Happens in the warm confines of our homes. How about whipping? Hey, we can do that with our left hands, with an applauding audience as a bonus. Oh, and how about a shot in the back of the head by a posse of cops? We teach that at our police academies. If you want a headlined death, we have got this huge compound in Abbottabad you would cherish for the rest of your life — till the marines come. And now even our mosquitoes are trained to literally suck the life out of you. Beat that.

Remember we are 180 million strong. This means there are a lot of us. So a couple of hundred going six feet under does not really upset our demographic balance. We have lost 35,000 of our fellow Pakistanis in this war on terror and that does not even get us a mention in the 9/11 speeches by US presidents past and present. That is how conveniently expendable we are. Death gets a multiple visa on arrival.

We are the horror movie rated not ‘R’ but NC17. But age is no bar to death here. We have got dead kids turning up all the time. In fact, while movies end after two hours, this one does not. We just keep on killin’ and killin’. Imagine ‘Spartacus: Blood and Sand’ on steroids. That would be us.


An array of death merchants awaits you. There are the wild Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) dudes who will cut your throat while chanting holy verses. Your religious sentiments will therefore be lovingly safeguarded while you experience that throat-slitting feeling. If you do not want this cutting edge experience, we have for you the political militants. You can discuss your personal favourite ideologies and they will drill some sense into you — through your kneecaps. And there is also a homegrown scheme for you to whiten your black money if you so desire. You will be gagged and bound and bundled off to Fata and then perhaps to Afghanistan (no visa fee required). You can then pay a couple of million rupees of your black money as ransom — tax free — and return home to your loved ones. Word-of-mouth is the best advertisement, you know, that is why we are never short of thrill-seekers. ‘Pay as you go’ works best.

For the nature freaks, there is Lahore. Here are some tips to maximise your death wish: wear short sleeves, expose some skin (no midriffs please), try to stay near water bodies, and just hope for the worst. The mosquitoes, rest assured, will take care of the rest. Of course, if the thirsty insects mess it up, the doctors will ensure your wishes are fulfilled. Lahore Lahore aye na (Lahore is Lahore).

Further up north, Swat boasts lush hills and bloody memories. If you are lucky you may still run into a Taliban commander, but if not, you can dress like one and there are solid chances you will get lined up against a wall and shot. Look at the bright side: you got very dead in drop-dead surroundings. Swat is, after all, heaven on earth.

If on the other hand, you are the faint-hearted type, we could always just bore you to death. And we have just the place for it: parliament. You see, all good political debates have migrated to TV studios and parliament now echoes with eternal inanities. The roof of the building leaks, just like the politicians, and hardly anything ever gets done in there. You are in for a whole lot of — nothing. Are you man enough to do it?


We take our trade seriously here. We are good at the game of death — and striving for further excellence. We are blessed with trained manpower and fertile killing fields. We are open for business. We are dying for you to visit us. So snuff out those doubts, stop being killjoys and bite the bullet. Pakistan is a must-see, even if it is the last place you see.


The writer hosts a primetime show on a private TV channel. He can be reached at fahd.husain1@gmail.com
 
its necessary to identify who is terrorist and extremist but it is also important that we should differentiate between freedom fighters and terrorist......if we want to adopt USA's defination then every one fighting against their interests is terrorist but when it defines according to Islam then this defination changes......Actually USA and western media make these things so much confusing that now ordinary muslim is not able to differentiate between them

Actualy you are trying to differentiate between people who kill pakistani's and those who dont.
If they are killing Indians or americans or anyone else, then they are termed freedom figheters. If otherwise they are terrorists.
Lets see where this path leads you, and i for one dont see light at the end of this tunnel.
 
Actualy you are trying to differentiate between people who kill pakistani's and those who dont.
If they are killing Indians or americans or anyone else, then they are termed freedom figheters. If otherwise they are terrorists.
Lets see where this path leads you, and i for one dont see light at the end of this tunnel.
it was not about you if you dont know anything then there is no need to comment ............
 
Few days back i opened a thread about what have you said. About legistlation of mosques. I was almost about to declared "kafir" . So beware of upcoming fatwas from mullahs roaming around.

Well, then, just got to be aware of those bearded people who dream of being a mullah!, or a religious scholar as they would put it.
 
We have all been wondering how it is that Masajid have become arms depots, we have wondered how it is that arms smuggling has become routine and we have in the back of our minds a dangerous question, WHY is this taking place:




Karachi: private militias and arms smuggling
Musa Khan Jalalzai



Target killing in Karachi has been a highly destructive phenomenon since the 1980s. Both former President General (retd) Pervez Musharraf and President Asif Ali Zardari agree on the point that terror networks across the country were deliberately created and nurtured in the past. The recent target killings in Karachi and the networks of private militias, their way of killing and torturing innocent citizens astonished the whole world. Though there have been different roots of violence in the city, the primary roots are considered to be unchecked and unregulated religious schools that introduced suicide attacks against civilian and military targets. A majority of these schools have employed teachers from banned organisations such as Jaish-e-Mohammed, Sipah-e-Sahaba, Pashtun Taliban, Punjabi Taliban and Lashkar-e-Jhangvi.

Afghan refugees play their own specific ethnic role. In 2010, police arrested a few Taliban fighters while thousands more suspected members of Jundullah, the Badar Mansoor group, Kharooj, the Al-Mukhtar group, Punjabi Taliban, Asian Tigers, Lashkar-e-Jhangvi Al-Alami, Jundul Hafsa, Al-Furqan and Al-Qataal are still killing innocent people, collecting illegal taxes, and are involved in robbery, theft and looting. The inconsiderate policies of previous governments resulted in the reorganisation of sectarian infrastructure in a new form. The arrest of some members of sectarian groups recently opened up some important revelations before the police about the future role of these groups. Moreover, the city became a hub of international criminal gangs, drug and arms smugglers, and these syndicates have now become a roosting ground for the private militias of the Sunni and Shia sects.

Terrorists arrested in Karachi in August 2011 revealed a frightening story of killing, torture and arms smuggling. Their links with drug and land mafias and the emergence of terror networks in schools, colleges and universities is another misadventure faced by the government. In May 2011, an arrested student of Karachi University told the police investigation team that hundreds of his colleagues were fighting on ethnic lines. Another source confirmed a big terror network organised in Karachi University, NED University, and Dawood College of Engineering and Technology.

In addition to colleges and universities, the network of terrorist groups in Karachi prisons amply spread disillusion and fear in the police department. This network receives financial support from outside. Notwithstanding Interior Minister Rehman Malik’s assurance that police found major clues to the target killers, violence still swallows up innocent citizens in Karachi.

In September last year, Pakistani newspapers quoted a secret ISI report about the activities of Blackwater. Blackwater’s first known contract with the CIA for operations in Afghanistan was awarded in 2002 and was for work along the Afghanistan-Pakistan border. Pakistan’s military establishment thinks that the US supports anti-Pakistan elements fighting against Pakistani security forces in the tribal areas as the CIA conducts its covert war in Pakistan through Blackwater or Xe Services. The issue of the existence of Blackwater in Pakistan became clear when ex-US Defence Secretary Robert Gates in an interview with a TV channel in January 2010 confirmed that Blackwater and DynCorp were operating inside Pakistan.

As far as terror finance is concerned, the UK-based Pakistani ethnic and sectarian groups channel a huge amount of money through fake IDs to their respective groups in Karachi. This illegal transaction of money plays a major role in the purchase of arms and ammunition for ethnic and sectarian terrorists.


Last year, the Sindh Assembly was told that thousands of sophisticated weapons were smuggled into Karachi. On August 2, 2011, CID officials claimed to have seized rocket-launchers, rockets, weapons and bullets from a terror group. Moreover, the Anti-Extremism Cell (AEC) in Karachi seized heavy weapons from a sectarian group.

As international security experts have already warned about the smuggling networks of Afghan, Irani and Pakistani smugglers who smuggle drugs and arms from Central Asia, the Middle East and Iran into Karachi, police and security agencies have so far failed in tracking down their local connections. A secret document in Karachi recently revealed that Sri Lankan terror group, LTTE, had established an arms smuggling network in Karachi on September 14, 2009. The document revealed that LTTE had established joint arms smuggling networks with a number of international terrorist groups. Al Qaeda agent Mohammed Ali Qasim alias Abu Sohaib al-Makki was recently arrested living in the country for 10 years.

In February 2011, the Special Investigation Unit (SIU) arrested serial killers, including a retired army officer, involved in arms smuggling in Karachi. There are more than 35 sectarian terror groups and 25 illegal tax collecting religious and ethnic groups who have besieged the city from all sides. Arms are being smuggled into Karachi via the Gulf and the Arabian Sea. The underground networks of Afghan, Irani, Pakistani and Central Asian arms and drug smugglers has created a warlike situation in the city. Finally: these are some factors behind the killing, burning, battering, and smashing in Karachi over the last three decades. As the state and its institutions are mired in corruption, violence is spreading across the country. Recent violence caused more than Rs 12 billion a day loss. Other statistics revealed that more than 35,000 students and 700 teachers from violence-hit areas are not attending schools and colleges. Poverty, unemployment, sectarianism, ethnicity and arms smuggling may further exacerbate the level of violence in the city.


The writer is the author of Afghanistan Beyond 2014 and Punjabi Taliban. He can be reached at zai.musakhan222@gmail.com
 
We have all been wondering how it is that Masajid have become arms depots, we have wondered how it is that arms smuggling has become routine and we have in the back of our minds a dangerous question, WHY is this taking place:




Karachi: private militias and arms smuggling
Musa Khan Jalalzai



Target killing in Karachi has been a highly destructive phenomenon since the 1980s. Both former President General (retd) Pervez Musharraf and President Asif Ali Zardari agree on the point that terror networks across the country were deliberately created and nurtured in the past. The recent target killings in Karachi and the networks of private militias, their way of killing and torturing innocent citizens astonished the whole world. Though there have been different roots of violence in the city, the primary roots are considered to be unchecked and unregulated religious schools that introduced suicide attacks against civilian and military targets. A majority of these schools have employed teachers from banned organisations such as Jaish-e-Mohammed, Sipah-e-Sahaba, Pashtun Taliban, Punjabi Taliban and Lashkar-e-Jhangvi.

Afghan refugees play their own specific ethnic role. In 2010, police arrested a few Taliban fighters while thousands more suspected members of Jundullah, the Badar Mansoor group, Kharooj, the Al-Mukhtar group, Punjabi Taliban, Asian Tigers, Lashkar-e-Jhangvi Al-Alami, Jundul Hafsa, Al-Furqan and Al-Qataal are still killing innocent people, collecting illegal taxes, and are involved in robbery, theft and looting. The inconsiderate policies of previous governments resulted in the reorganisation of sectarian infrastructure in a new form. The arrest of some members of sectarian groups recently opened up some important revelations before the police about the future role of these groups. Moreover, the city became a hub of international criminal gangs, drug and arms smugglers, and these syndicates have now become a roosting ground for the private militias of the Sunni and Shia sects.

Terrorists arrested in Karachi in August 2011 revealed a frightening story of killing, torture and arms smuggling. Their links with drug and land mafias and the emergence of terror networks in schools, colleges and universities is another misadventure faced by the government. In May 2011, an arrested student of Karachi University told the police investigation team that hundreds of his colleagues were fighting on ethnic lines. Another source confirmed a big terror network organised in Karachi University, NED University, and Dawood College of Engineering and Technology.

In addition to colleges and universities, the network of terrorist groups in Karachi prisons amply spread disillusion and fear in the police department. This network receives financial support from outside. Notwithstanding Interior Minister Rehman Malik’s assurance that police found major clues to the target killers, violence still swallows up innocent citizens in Karachi.

In September last year, Pakistani newspapers quoted a secret ISI report about the activities of Blackwater. Blackwater’s first known contract with the CIA for operations in Afghanistan was awarded in 2002 and was for work along the Afghanistan-Pakistan border. Pakistan’s military establishment thinks that the US supports anti-Pakistan elements fighting against Pakistani security forces in the tribal areas as the CIA conducts its covert war in Pakistan through Blackwater or Xe Services. The issue of the existence of Blackwater in Pakistan became clear when ex-US Defence Secretary Robert Gates in an interview with a TV channel in January 2010 confirmed that Blackwater and DynCorp were operating inside Pakistan.

As far as terror finance is concerned, the UK-based Pakistani ethnic and sectarian groups channel a huge amount of money through fake IDs to their respective groups in Karachi. This illegal transaction of money plays a major role in the purchase of arms and ammunition for ethnic and sectarian terrorists.


Last year, the Sindh Assembly was told that thousands of sophisticated weapons were smuggled into Karachi. On August 2, 2011, CID officials claimed to have seized rocket-launchers, rockets, weapons and bullets from a terror group. Moreover, the Anti-Extremism Cell (AEC) in Karachi seized heavy weapons from a sectarian group.

As international security experts have already warned about the smuggling networks of Afghan, Irani and Pakistani smugglers who smuggle drugs and arms from Central Asia, the Middle East and Iran into Karachi, police and security agencies have so far failed in tracking down their local connections. A secret document in Karachi recently revealed that Sri Lankan terror group, LTTE, had established an arms smuggling network in Karachi on September 14, 2009. The document revealed that LTTE had established joint arms smuggling networks with a number of international terrorist groups. Al Qaeda agent Mohammed Ali Qasim alias Abu Sohaib al-Makki was recently arrested living in the country for 10 years.

In February 2011, the Special Investigation Unit (SIU) arrested serial killers, including a retired army officer, involved in arms smuggling in Karachi. There are more than 35 sectarian terror groups and 25 illegal tax collecting religious and ethnic groups who have besieged the city from all sides. Arms are being smuggled into Karachi via the Gulf and the Arabian Sea. The underground networks of Afghan, Irani, Pakistani and Central Asian arms and drug smugglers has created a warlike situation in the city. Finally: these are some factors behind the killing, burning, battering, and smashing in Karachi over the last three decades. As the state and its institutions are mired in corruption, violence is spreading across the country. Recent violence caused more than Rs 12 billion a day loss. Other statistics revealed that more than 35,000 students and 700 teachers from violence-hit areas are not attending schools and colleges. Poverty, unemployment, sectarianism, ethnicity and arms smuggling may further exacerbate the level of violence in the city.


The writer is the author of Afghanistan Beyond 2014 and Punjabi Taliban. He can be reached at zai.musakhan222@gmail.com[/QUOTE
Old Propaganda done by slaves of west
 
Mr Jihad also means fighting in the way of ALLAH with weapons don't use Jihad against Nafs to avoid Jihad with Sword or weapons

There are different levels of Jihad and you just can not jump to to the 10th level without going through the whole process. First change yourself, your family and the people around you. Mould them in a way that they are not a nuisance for the society and are constructive members of it and then pick up weapons to do Jihad in far off places. Right now the best Jihad would be to gear up and help the flood ravaged people of Sindh.
 
Parties, religious sectors, criminals store their required goods where they supposed to be safe. Surprise but common practice in Pakistan because if violence didn’t start, SC didn’t take action then how Ranger located out & arrest criminals and we knew about it? Who knows, still how many mosques are weapon depots? How many political party offices are godowns of ammunition? Remove root cause on people forced to keep weapon in places like that.
Free Karachi from MQM is only way to save Karachi from weapon city. 90 still safe from any Ranger’s raid.
 
Parties, religious sectors, criminals store their required goods where they supposed to be safe. Surprise but common practice in Pakistan because if violence didn’t start, SC didn’t take action then how Ranger located out & arrest criminals and we knew about it? Who knows, still how many mosques are weapon depots? How many political party offices are godowns of ammunition? Remove root cause on people forced to keep weapon in places like that.
Free Karachi from MQM is only way to save Karachi from weapon city. 90 still safe from any Ranger’s raid.

Yes, root cause...Is there any weapon industry in Karachi? Why not take actions against those who supply weapons to Karachi. It is in the knowledge of agencies that from where Arms and Ammunitions come into Karachi. Just take the example of UK riots, if people had the unlimited supply of weapons, the death toll much much higher than the present.

If we want to deweaponize the city, we need to break their supply chain. We need to kill the disease right?
 
Yes, root cause...Is there any weapon industry in Karachi? Why not take actions against those who supply weapons to Karachi. It is in the knowledge of agencies that from where Arms and Ammunitions come into Karachi. Just take the example of UK riots, if people had the unlimited supply of weapons, the death toll much much higher than the present.

If we want to deweaponize the city, we need to break their supply chain. We need to kill the disease right?


Would you agree, These land mafia's and smugglers have political connections, that's why it become difficult to take action against them?
 
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