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Railways denies Chinese firms’ locomotive manufacturing projects for non-compliance

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Railways denies Chinese firms’ locomotive manufacturing projects for non-compliance
NEW DELHI: Citing stringent norms, Indian Railways has rejected Chinese firms’ plea to relax the rules for the Rs 2,500 crore locomotive manufacturing plants in Bihar.

Two Chinese companies — CSR Corporation and CNR Corporation — had submitted bid for the Rs 1,300 crore electric locomotive project at Madhepura and Rs 1,200 crore diesel locomotive plant at Marhowra diesel locomotive project that are to be set up on public private partnership (PPP) model.

The firms, which were eyeing contracts valued at about Rs 35,000 crore over 10-11 years, had urged the Railway Board to relax the norms that stipulated the companies to have experience of operating in at least three countries. However, the Chinese companies have supplied locomotives to only two countries.

“We have told them (Chinese companies) that there would be no relaxation as the Cabinet has approved these conditions of the request for quotation (RFQ) in 2010,” Railway Board chairman Arunendra Kumar said.

He added, “Their request would have been considered if there was poor response, but several multinational companies have also shown interest. The response has been fairly good.

The rejection comes at a time when Chinese companies created a flutter by bidding for a share of the Railways’ locomotive market, which is traditionally dominated by big-ticket American and European players. There was keen interest whether Chinese firms can make the technical grade to submit financial bids for the projects as that could have set the stage for more competitive bids.

Apart from the Chinese firms, the bidders for the proposed electric loco factory include US firm GE Global and European companies like Bombardier, Siemens and Alstom. Similarly, for the diesel loco factory, bidders include American firms GE and EMD.

CSR, in a letter to the Railway Board, had said unnecessary conditions in RFQ were restricting the project from being uncompetitive.

“It is unfair for us to be prevented to participate in the project from the RFQ stage,” it says. The letter criticized the condition that a company applying for the project should have worked in at least three countries in similar line of operations.

However, Railway Board denied any bias, saying the condition was included to avail of the best of global technology.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...s-for-non-compliance/articleshow/24621682.cms
I do believe that Indian railway is throwing axe on its own leg. These rules are not going to affect the quality or price of engines in any way.
 
I don't think so theres any axe being thrown here. Operating in 3 countries isn't that big a requirement, and plenty of companies have it as the article states. It is pretty much part of quality control process to have the vendor demonstarte enough track record for big projects.

BTW Chinese have supplied to just two countries, one of which is Pakistan. We know how that went. What is the other country?
 
I don't think so theres any axe being thrown here. Operating in 3 countries isn't that big a requirement, and plenty of companies have it as the article states. It is pretty much part of quality control process to have the vendor demonstarte enough track record for big projects.

BTW Chinese have supplied to just two countries, one of which is Pakistan. We know how that went. What is the other country?
Bangladesh,Sri Lanka and some african countries have imported Chinese locos. But it seems the Chinese have quite a few loco making companies.
 
Bombardier is doing well in India's locomotive industry...Indian Railway follows high safety standards when it comes to passenger trains....so I guess they wont go for Chinese product unless the product is not just good but the BEST.
 
Bombardier must be having a grand time selling locomotives to India

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May be you will like these better, but then they weren't the locomotives,

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I guess the pointing I am trying to make is the intersecting line of cost (price) and reliability that the Indians are looking for.
 
Nope, the point you are trying to make is to cherry pick older images and troll around.

Carry on.
 
Good luck Indians, you guys should stick to American and European companies. I really wish Chinese companies should stop going to India. In fact, majority of people in China are also puzzled why some companies are eager to invest in India. Oh well, greed only chases profits.

Please deny more Chinese companies in the future!
 
Good luck Indians, you guys should stick to American and European companies. I really wish Chinese companies should stop going to India. In fact, majority of people in China are also puzzled why some companies are eager to invest in India. Oh well, greed only chases profits.

Please deny more Chinese companies in the future!

Yes, I am puzzled myself. Greed is one thing, but if a country and its people do not like you, go somewhere else.
 
May be you will like these better, but then they weren't the locomotives,

I guess the pointing I am trying to make is the intersecting line of cost (price) and reliability that the Indians are looking for.

point is you are posting very old pictures. :confused:
 
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