Panama Case - Post Verdict Discussion and Updates

[QatariPrince]

اسلام آباد:سابق وزیر اعظم نواز شریف کا فوری وطن واپسی کا فیصلہ، ذرائع
نوازشریف پی آئی اےکی فلائٹ سےکل وطن واپس پہنچیں گے،ذرائع
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[Zibago]

اسلام آباد:سابق وزیر اعظم نواز شریف کا فوری وطن واپسی کا فیصلہ، ذرائع
نوازشریف پی آئی اےکی فلائٹ سےکل وطن واپس پہنچیں گے،ذرائع
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Why is the question that comes to my mind

 

[Farah Sohail]

Baji....wapis aarahi hai ya nahi?

Why is the question that comes to my mind

Kal Mohammad Malick ne bataya tha ke uski source ne bataya hai..ke NS wapis aa saktay hain..aur yahan aa kar dobara se aggressive politics karein ge.. NS ka khyal hai ke woh wapis aa kar courts aur legal procedure ko lamba khenchna ziada mushkil nahi hai... 6 months nikaal lein ge..aurr iss arse main Pakistan ki economic condition bhtt kharab hai already.. Woh Pakistan main ek chaos ki situation create karna chahtay hain.. NS thinks..ke aglay kuch arse main economic condition ki wajah se...aur political situation ki wjah se itna chaos create hojaaye ga ke judiciary aur establishment dono back out kar jayein ge.. Pakistan par external ..itna pressure paray ga..ke establishment aur judiciary dono hi back out kar jayein ge..

Kal tak tu lag raha tha ke Mohammad Malick ki ye news shayad theek na ho.. Abhi NS ka wapis aanay koi plan nahi lekin ye tu waqayi wapis aaraha hai.. I am more interested to know ke baji aarahi hai ya nahi?

 

[El_Swordsmen]

Baji....wapis aarahi hai ya nahi?



Kal Mohammad Malick ne bataya tha ke uski source ne bataya hai..ke NS wapis aa saktay hain..aur yahan aa kar dobara se aggressive politics karein ge.. NS ka khyal hai ke woh wapis aa kar courts aur legal procedure ko lamba khenchna ziada mushkil nahi hai... 6 months nikaal lein ge..aurr iss arse main Pakistan ki economic condition bhtt kharab hai already.. Woh Pakistan main ek chaos ki situation create karna chahtay hain.. NS thinks..ke aglay kuch arse main economic condition ki wajah se...aur political situation ki wjah se itna chaos create hojaaye ga ke judiciary aur establishment dono back out kar jayein ge.. Pakistan par external ..itna pressure paray ga..ke establishment aur judiciary dono hi back out kar jayein ge..

Kal tak tu lag raha tha ke Mohammad Malick ki ye news shayad theek na ho.. Abhi NS ka wapis aanay koi plan nahi lekin ye tu waqayi wapis aaraha hai.. I am more interested to know ke baji aarahi hai ya nahi?

their approach is to drag proceedings & somehow remain in gov. till Senate elections ....

 

[Zibago]

Kal Mohammad Malick ne bataya tha ke uski source ne bataya hai..ke NS wapis aa saktay hain..aur yahan aa kar dobara se aggressive politics karein ge.. NS ka khyal hai ke woh wapis aa kar courts aur legal procedure ko lamba khenchna ziada mushkil nahi hai... 6 months nikaal lein ge..aurr iss arse main Pakistan ki economic condition bhtt kharab hai already.. Woh Pakistan main ek chaos ki situation create karna chahtay hain.. NS thinks..ke aglay kuch arse main economic condition ki wajah se...aur political situation ki wjah se itna chaos create hojaaye ga ke judiciary aur establishment dono back out kar jayein ge.. Pakistan par external ..itna pressure paray ga..ke establishment aur judiciary dono hi back out kar jayein ge..

Ye aik suicidal move hy kis akal mand ney usko ye batayi

their approach is to drag proceedings & somehow remain in gov. till Senate elections ....

Which could be a make or break moment for them its a high risk move which can fail even if their plan for waiting works somehow

 

[Salik]

I am amazed at PMLN leaders and supporters: it’s not even one week since Nawaz absconded and hid in London, and those supporters who were ready to lie in front of Army Tank, are running in their holes at the sight of NAB official’s Suzuki Cultus.

Patwaris never cease to amaze us; amazingly funny breed it is

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Meanwhile in London; Nawaz showing utmost solidarity....

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Nawaz Sharif wants to return and head the party, he wants to be head of state as well unlike 'bhai'. He should be given chance to return through rightful means i.e. legislation that they've adopted. His party has passed the law through pure democratic principles. People should show restraint in challenging the aforementioned bill because this bill gives them chance to return and fight on equal basis, plus this bill has potential of good future events.

 

[Farah Sohail]

Ye aik suicidal move hy kis akal mand ney usko ye batayi

Which could be a make or break moment for them its a high risk move which can fail even if their plan for waiting works somehow

Pata nahi...baji aarahi hai ya nahi? Allah karay ke baji bhi aaye

 

[Realistic Change]

Baji....wapis aarahi hai ya nahi?



Kal Mohammad Malick ne bataya tha ke uski source ne bataya hai..ke NS wapis aa saktay hain..aur yahan aa kar dobara se aggressive politics karein ge.. NS ka khyal hai ke woh wapis aa kar courts aur legal procedure ko lamba khenchna ziada mushkil nahi hai... 6 months nikaal lein ge..aurr iss arse main Pakistan ki economic condition bhtt kharab hai already.. Woh Pakistan main ek chaos ki situation create karna chahtay hain.. NS thinks..ke aglay kuch arse main economic condition ki wajah se...aur political situation ki wjah se itna chaos create hojaaye ga ke judiciary aur establishment dono back out kar jayein ge.. Pakistan par external ..itna pressure paray ga..ke establishment aur judiciary dono hi back out kar jayein ge..

Kal tak tu lag raha tha ke Mohammad Malick ki ye news shayad theek na ho.. Abhi NS ka wapis aanay koi plan nahi lekin ye tu waqayi wapis aaraha hai.. I am more interested to know ke baji aarahi hai ya nahi?

Farah - what Maalick was discussing yesterday (Saturday) we have already discussed this on Wednesday last week, it’s another cheap ploy to create a chaos. Foreign Reserves are already only left for 6 more months and huge external debt servicing, it’s part PMLN Govt performance and part creating a false facade, few examples were given in post from last Wednesday below:

Reports: Planned chaos bubble to start soon.

1. Fuel Shortages (Fake)
2. Electricity Tariffs to be increased substantially

Putting blame on disqualification.

 

[Farah Sohail]

Farah - what Maalick was discussing yesterday (Saturday) we have already discussed this on Wednesday last week.

Janaab... Aap ko guru maan liya hai !!!

Aap ke kehnay ki wajah se..ab thora Ijaz ul Ahsan ke baaray main bhi thora optimistic honay ka dil chah raha hai!!! Although ke unka role ab tak tu koi khaas acha nahi....but because you are soo confident and optimistic regd Ijaz ul Ahsan's role..so lets wait and watch..

Any upadtes regd PTI? Aur woh jo hum 5 yr term disqualification wlai cheez discuss karrahay thay...is our understanding correct..tht its not a new addition in this bill..and it was already there in ROPA and also 62/63 remains unchanged?

Is maryam nawaz also coming back..or not?

 

[Realistic Change]

Janaab... Aap ko guru maan liya hai !!!

Aap ke kehnay ki wajah se..ab thora Ijaz ul Ahsan ke baaray main bhi thora optimistic honay ka dil chah raha hai!!! Although ke unka role ab tak tu koi khaas acha nahi....but because you are soo confident and optimistic regd Ijaz ul Ahsan's role..so lets wait and watch..

Any upadtes regd PTI? Aur woh jo hum 5 yr term disqualification wlai cheez discuss karrahay thay...is our understanding correct..tht its not a new addition in this bill..and it was already there in ROPA and also 62/63 remains unchanged?

Is maryam nawaz also coming back..or not?

Lol - I was joking - but several summaries were moved by Secretaries last week which made no sense hence joining the dots wasn’t difficult at all.

Pretty much same understanding as yours, also any laws application from restrospective effect will be a challenge too, but there could be politics too - will discuss in group chat.

 

[Farah Sohail]

Pretty much same understanding as yours, also any laws application from restrospective effect will be a challenge too, but there could be politics too - will discuss in group chat.

What? Samajh nahi aaya..... Where does retrospective application come into this..as far as this bill is concerned? Sorry..if i didnt udnerstand you clearly.... Hum tu yeh keh rahay hain ke iss new bill main 62/63 main koi change hai hi nahi..aur jo 5 yr term wali baat hai...yeh bhi pehle ROPA main thee.. Also, we remembr tht Kh haris argued before the judges in panama review hearing tht u should disqualify NS on ROPA (which is for 5 yrs) and not on 62/63 but judges rejected it.. So this ROPA act had 5 yr term included in it earlier too... So ...question doesnt arise...at all..tht whether this law can/will be applied retospectively or not!

Only new thing is tht..party presidency clause...according to our understanding

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Baji Maryam not coming back to Pakistan why?????? Koi baji ko bhi bulaao

 

[Realistic Change]

He has to; his choices are limited, and with passing day, his space for negotiating / brokering a deal is squeezing.

He had much better options yesterday than today, and it will be worse tomorrow.

Geopolitically and geostrategically things have changed, of many he used the shoulders of; are not relevant like before and will be even more irrelevant with each passing day.

In short; he is totally frustrated and it’s showing in his actions.

If he delays his homecoming along with Runaway Bride & Groom, and is dreaming of running party like AH from
London, as stated by Parvez Rashid then he’s up for a nightmare of life that will be too rude awakening.

Punjab MNAs, will move within a blink of an eye. They have done it before, in much better political (siyasi) position of Nawaz than now.

Second tier leadership of Maryam and third rated tier of Junaid has been killed by Shahbaz - there is huge infighting on NA120, Party Presidentship and PM with limited time to think and plan by immediate family for which Nisar was fired to cut Maryam and Junaid to size in just 30 minutes.
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So we @PakSword discussed this as well last Wednesday that Nawaz has to come when Maryam was shouting at the top of her lungs that he will not come back. Ab kaya huwa?

Party slipping away too quickly - damage is already done - he should move to Aruba Islands now

What? Samajh nahi aaya..... Where does retrospective application come into this..as far as this bill is concerned? Sorry..if i didnt udnerstand you clearly.... Hum tu yeh keh rahay hain ke iss new bill main 62/63 main koi change hai hi nahi..aur jo 5 yr term wali baat hai...yeh bhi pehle ROPA main thee.. Also, we remembr tht Kh haris argued before the judges in panama review hearing tht u should disqualify NS on ROPA (which is for 5 yrs) and not on 62/63 but judges rejected it.. So this ROPA act had 5 yr term included in it earlier too... So ...question doesnt arise...at all..tht whether this law can/will be applied retospectively or not!

Only new thing is tht..party presidency clause...according to our understanding

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Baji Maryam not coming back to Pakistan why?????? Koi baji ko bhi bulaao

Baji has been cut to size

 

[Farah Sohail]

Baji has been cut to size

Baji..poori family ke saath jail jayegi tab sukoon aayega...
As baji is not coming now..tu kia accountability court..iss ke aur baqi logon ke bailable arrest warrant issue karay gi? Ya sirf Nawaz sharif ki appearance par hi khush hojayein ge.. Legally tu mera question bhtt illogical hai.. Obviously jo jo appear nahi honge..un ke bailable arrest warrant issue honay chahyein.. Lekin accountability court ke judge ka attitude ...encouraging nahi tha last time.. He seems really biased in favor of sharif family.. Ishaq dar ke bailable arrest warrant issue kiye lekin sharif family ke nahi.......Mujhe nahi lagta ke woh baji..hasan, husain, aur captain safdar ke bailable arrest warrant issue karein ge..

 

[Boomin' Bomber I.J.]

Sab ka naam dalay ga in shaa Allah.. siwaey @Farah Sohail ke.. she is fighting all alone.. hosla rakhain..

Shut up and do not pass judgements! I am not dead yet!

None can top the list..except Bajwa sb.... Post of sharif's publicity /PR manager suits him, the most.... Raheel Sharif can be included in this list..but top position exclusively is for dear bajwa sb..

Neither Bajwa nor Raheel Shareef! Do not let your imaginations go wild!
Pakistan is waqt bacha hua he to sirf FAUJ ki wajah se. Pakistan ko is waqt zabardast bairuni sazishon ka samna he aur ye siyasatdan in sazishon me shamil hain. Aisay me agar aap log bhi apnay dimaghi tawazun kho baithain ge to phir kya bane ga?

 

[Dil Pakistan]

HIs return is most likely due to internal politics of PMLn.

If party breaks up, he will be done and dusted for good. Coming back, at least, allows him to show a brave face.